This is a forums board though, they have rules regarding what you say. Good to see that it wasn't your intent though, I'd advise next time to be careful how you word your messages, misinterpretation is an easy mistake


Like I said, misinterpretation is an easy mistake to make, didn't mean any disrespect


NOW we are getting into the nitty gritty here, this is where developers pay attention. Why not explain the DETAILS of why said perk system is not an improvement? I can assure you that it will do more good than anything else said here

It has already been argued on this board by others, if they didn't pay attention then they aren't now.

how many are they? five? six?
the game sold millions of copies, so they won't stop making it because a few number of people didn't like it.

The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence though. Just because something isn't acted upon immediately doesn't mean they don't know or don't have plans already. And even if they don't have plans for changing this game, if there's enough noise, it may make it into the next game!

I would rather be counted among the few that know the truth then the many that fallow the lie.

See? This sort of thing can be rephrased by saying:

"I would rather be known for standing my ground than simply remaining silent"

^Less offensive

^This is the thought process I had before Skyrim came out, I thought "surly they will get it right this time" sadly I was wrong, shame on me.

No I think I responded correctly.

I'd rather be counted among the many who are happy playing the game and enjoy it for what it is, then the few who are so aggrieved about the fact that they find the game to be lacking in perfection, and desperately need to proclaim it's flaws on message boards, despite the fact that the developers do not care and have no reason to care

They won't. Skyrim have made much more money than previous games.

sorry if I don't want to settle for less but I'm glad you enjoy it.

I've bought products I didn't like before. When I have, I simply stopped using them and moved on. I've never felt compelled to waste my time on forums dedicated a product I didn't like trying to convince those who do like it they are wrong, blind, gullible or shallow for doing so.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with that either. I'm just one of those people who prefers to appreciate what I have. Let me know when you find an modern open-world RPG which does a better job than Skyrim of combining complexity, depth and playability!

I find it odd that you think I'm wasting my time here yet you feel the need to respond... how strange I guess we are both wasting are time.

The game you are referring to should have been skyrim.

Saying you know the truth is a bit pretentious is it not?

The question is not whether they listen to fan feedback or not. The question is probably to what degree do they listen? They have patched their games how many times in the last few months? 4 or 5? Seems like they kind of care and they even promised a balance patch. They also gave PC users a free High Res pack. Not that ANY of that fixes my personal problems with the game but it is kind of hard to patch in fixes to the factions story and the length of those factions in an organic way. Or to overhaul the journal so quest markers are not necessary. I say they care but they have to cater to numbers. Hand holding is a majority need or want apparently. To those who think the game does not hold your hand...play nearly any old RPG, specifically Morrowind. Hell even Oblivion held our hands less. That is what bothers me about the game. That is how I think it could be improved. However the game is still plenty playable and enjoyable.

I believe it to be the truth, It does not mean I'm right,
But might I say is it not a bit pretentious to say I'm wrong?

Dear oh dear. I shouldn`t even respond to this.

Calling people `haters` for criticising what`s wrong in a game and how it can be improved (which has been done many times) is hateful in itself. I`m somewhat surprised that such a flame-bait title is allowed.

Many people who criticise the game are not haters, but want improvements and are using their voice (the forum) to express that.

I had no idea this forum was only for sycophants.

And sycophants improve nothing- they just cause things to go stale and bland.

Sigh, I despise the word "Haters" & it's a term that's been overused a lot on here, People cannot seem to grasp the fact that being critical about Skyrim or about anything that you are passionate about means that you care.
However, for some people it's easier to smear them as haters & create a them & us dynamic which helps nobody, It's extremely immature.

Like it or not, The haters spend the same amount of money & hold opinions that are as equally valid as everybody.

ok, seven then?

They would complain about Bethesda not making more TES games. Then they would move on to some other popular Bethesda game so their hating could be heard by others.

Did I say you were wrong? You said you "KNEW" something that i really doubt you "know". now you say you believe it. Which is it? know or believe?

I at least gave evidence of my point of view did I not? They SEEM to at least be listening.

Reread my post and see if you come to the same conclusion.

Sorry if this comes off rude but I am typing fast and with little time.

People who post frequently on gaming forums make up a small minority of the overall consumer base.

Hipster detected. "The only good games in a series are the old ones"

Sarcasm and trolling people because they don`t follow your view helps nothing.

I`ll say it one more time: Constant praise with no constructive criticism leads to bland and boring games with no depth.

Many games have been improved by constructive criticisms.

Only a fool wants only praise and they usually end up with a big shock if they never listen to anything else.