I think it was explained that most Daedra hated being on Nirn and would attack in order to get sent back to Oblivion while the Dremora just attacked because their society is pretty much one based entirely on fighting and warring with whatever moves, even themselves.

Well beyond Daedra being in a world without human judgment, the armor clearly expresses an evil concept when viewed by human eyes.

Daggerfall's manual just called it "the refined form of ebony".

I think Battlespire was the game about "Daedric diplomacy". For being a game that was all about dungeon-crawling, it also had the most amount of choices in dialogue of any TES game. Most of which was you and various Daedra taunting and insulting each other before the inevitable fight, since you could talk to just about any enemy.

Well...the armor was designed for Dremoras whose society again is pretty much nothing but war and fighting so of course it has to look terrifying to strike fear into the hearts of their opponents.

It's a single player game FFS, not a MMO. If you don't want to craft it, don't craft it. That doesn't justify calling for it to be removed, other players using it isn't doing you any harm, it's not like it makes them OP in a MMO game.

If you are really that annoyed about it, write a mod that removes it from YOUR game.

Sheez, I hate Argonians so I want them removed from the game. I hate that mountain being there, I want it gone. I think Dwarven armor looks tacky so I want the devs to remove it from the game and spoil it for everyone else who may happen to think it looks good.

There's only two words I have to say to people like that and the second word is "OFF!"

You keep using that word... I don't think it means what you think it means.

But of course, just because in Morrowind it was an armor so rare that it just was not worth finding all of its parts because there were easier to find artifacts out there, it should be this way in EVERY OTHER GAME EVER!

But totally not like you need to spend a bunch of perks you could spend on something else to get there, not like you need to haul a lot of Ebony, and most importantly, not like you need to find quite a lot of Daedra hearts, which are pretty rare to find by normal means because Daedra themselves are pretty rare...
But there's not only one item of its kind out there, so it svcks.

That'd be pretty sweet. 'Specially if enemy NPC's picked up weapons off the ground if they were better...

Use it till it's about to break, drop it, and let some poor Bandit get a few swings in before the Daedra rips his throat out.

I agree with the OP, I mean crafting Daedric armor, armor that is supposed to be infused with the soul of a demon at a......forge? Why can't we do a quest like the one under the Midden with the daedric ritual to acquire peices of daedric armor? That would make it interesting atleast, instead of just mashing buttons to craft.

I've only used crafting on one character anyway, personally I think it is a waste of perk points, that's just me though.

Skyrim does not have item degredation anymore...

Oh noe we hAve the selfproclamed master of the knowledge coming to insult people of ignorance .... You should first start by understanding tough what you are even quoting .... It says refined using craft And Magical substances ....... Preternatural prolonged sufferimg endured during manufacturing ......daedric weapons are the most rare ....


Learn to understand your own quoting befour insulting others ...

It clearly states nothing about common crafting in any random crap smithing bench without any rythual .... Beeing craftable by every good smith provided he has the materials.....


Now that just made the daedric stuff cheap . Unrare and accessible to everyfolk .... Wich is also senseless... If you really wantto forge a daedric material you would need at least a special forge ... Special rithuals and special conditions .... Apart of course the special materials ..... This would make it more rare .....


But anyway I dislikethe fct that I have to turn into a smith to get a daedric thing .... In any common smithing workshop.....

i dont like daedric armor
very evil-ish

Aaaaand where did I say it did?

you did not, but in order for the daedra to be released the item has to break, but...skyrim has no item degredation.

Oh and btw even ebony so common in skyrim is against lore .... As the empire primal reasons of taking over morrowind was the source of ebony from the area.... Now you garvest in skyrim too .... Wich makes no sense ... Even ebony should be somehow limited or retought...

Actually, Daedric can be smithed. Daedric armor is the result of crafting Ebony armor with the heart of a Daedra in/with it. Some say you can still hear the Daedra inside the armor.

I never did understand why they got rid of it. I guess it's kind of nice not having to worry about it, but I still miss it.

Agreed.

Wait. When was an Elder Scrolls game challenging? Daggerfall perhaps, but certainly not since.

On topic: I don't think it should be removed from the perk tree at all. Lore references to them being smithed can be found (as has been shown) and they are quite hard to do so. Getting the ebony is easy enough, I suppose but the daedra hearts not so much. Daedric armour is hardly unique either, every Dremora (and even some Daedric princes) I've ever encountered wears it.

You can shout gods to the ground, visit the realm of the dead ALIVE, and carry pieces of Oblivion around with you 24/7. It's not inconceivable that the Dragonborn eventually gleams knowledge on daedric smithing from his otherworldly experiences. I special mission to unlock them though, or use them, would be nice as it is with the ultimate spells for mages.

OK. The only I played are Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Out of those 3 Morrowind was a lot harder and more challenging. After that game they added things that made them a lot more easier.

It would make more sense if the Daedra from the Midden ritual with the rings taught us how to craft Daedric armor. Or he gave you the gauntlets to wear and that was the start of a long questline to get the full set of armor.

dont like it dont craft it if you dont its pretty rare and often isnt in loot first time I found a daedric item in a chest was around lvl 60-65

Way too many people quoted this, and this info is just wrong.
Enchanted items when they broke released the soul the soulgem had in the form of the captured monster. Actually that was pretty dumb...

Yeah, it's totally not like Skyrim is one of the Neighbours of Morrowind, sharing a small amount of deposits, even on the eastern side... that's just silly.

The only reason MO was(is) hard for me was the crappy dice roll system of attack, and I'm glad they got rid of it, it was ridiculous. "You missed" "How the hell did I miss!? I saw my arrow/sword/dagger/axe hit them!" "Nope, sorry brah, you missed them, how about you try again?" *proceeds to try and kill a midcrab for the next five minutes* *missmissmissmissmissmiss* And then I end up having to run to the nearest guards for help because the easiest enemy in the game has almost killed me. It all makes sense now why MO was the only ES game to have actual cheats.