lol I didn't think I was the only one who thought so...

Skyrim is beautiful, but it doesn't feel like a TES game in comparison to Oblivion or Morrowind. Killing the stat attributes changes the overall feel. There is little to no reason to pick one race over another.

I'd give it a 10.

Not only is it the most fun game I've ever played, but I'm not aware of any other title with this level of support for the modding community.

Can I give it a 9.4? It isn't quite the 9.5 but better then a 9 for me.

Im sorry, I dont mean to call you out or anything, but are you serious?
There arent any flaws?
I dont give 10's you know, they are for perfection.

I dont understand why you would print that, nothing is a 10.
Could you explain to me your motivation for such a call so that I might understand better?

skyrim vs. tes/fallouts/open-world/bioware/action-rpg's = 8

skyrim vs. everything else = 9.5

fallouts/morrowind = 9.5

oblivion/masseffect = 9

masseffect2 = 8

2worlds1/kotor2 = 7.5

kotor/jade = 7

i haven't played the dragon age stuff or reddead.

that's my quick rundown without a whole lot of hard thinking, lol.

Out of all the games I've played over the years, Skyrim is the one I've enjoyed the most. For me that is already a 10, or the standard by which to measure enjoyment of other games. If we are talking about a scale from 1 to 10, where 1 is the game we enjoyed least, 10 must be the game we enjoyed the most, no?

Apart from that, Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3 are the only games I'm aware of which have this tremendous capacity for modifying and customizing the game. When we purchased Skyrim for PC we also received a free ticket for all the tens of thousands of hours of content mods that will be released over the next few years, mods that will far exceed what was possible with previous Bethesda games.

In terms of personal entertainment value, there is not any other game that can compare from my perspective.

Ok I can understand that.
Personally, if it was the best game I had ever played, it would have gotten a 9/10 from me.
For me, 10/10 is superhumanly above expectations and giving you chocolates where you thought only lemons lived.
It is not something humanly attainable.

I suppose people wouldnt want me as their teacher

*Though maybe they would cause I always liked my teachers more if they made me work for it rather than be popular or good at sports or have big boobs. Not to say Skyrim is like that. Just high-school.

sure, rub it in our faces, bootysweat!

I think for me personally a 10/10 represents something that's perfect, and has NOTHING wrong with it, perhaps even something that couldn't be improved upon. So I would agree with Merari here.

But more power to Bootysweat if his satisfaction with the game is so all encompassing!

It's very simple: different people have different criterion for "10."

Apparently, 10 to you reperesnts "perfection." But that is not the only way to look at it. 10 can also represent "the best that is possible." If we accept that criterion it is possible for a game to be a 10.

Even if so, I don't know that Skyrim is "the best that is possible." Even by that criteria I couldn't give it a 10. But it's all subjective, I suppose.

I'm sure you would make a great teacher.

As for flaws, certainly there are some aspects of the game that I would enjoy more had they turned out differently. However, as I have been learning how to use the creation kit and Papyrus, it seems that nearly any sort of gameplay improvement that can be dreamed up can be made into a mod. As I try to come up with a list of other games that might be considered equally moddable, I'm drawing a blank.

I get that now
Though I still believe that a solid ten should be reserved for perfection.
Otherwise, what is there to go above? If you award Skyrim a ten, what would a bug free Skyrim be?
Therefore, I will stick to my system of you cannot ever get more than 9/10 and 9.5 if youre really good.

a 10, or 100% or 5/5 doesn't have to mean "Perfect". Games are art, and art can never be perfect, so even having the option to be "Perfect" is a fallacy. The top score simply means, according to the user's frame of reference, gaming does not get any better.


As for my own opinion, I like rating ES differently than other games.

In the current market, TESV: Skryim is a 9. Masterful design for this generation, extraordinary content for the entrance fee, and unrivaled post-release support for a Single-Player game.

As for what they've done before... Skryim is a 7.5. So many ideas I found crucial to the Elder Scrolls experience have been scrapped. Variety, writing and exploration all have taken a back-seat to a level of user-friendliness that borders on patronizing.

Reference Points as judged against eachother.

Morrowind: 10/10, the Perfect Elder Scrolls game.

Oblivion: 5.5/10, Painfully predictable, and generally uncompelling for over files over 60 hours of play. Shivering isles helps tremendously. (6.5)

Daggerfall: 7.0, Content is generally boring, but the freedom to live as you see fit compensates. Procedural content works in a land the size of the British Isles

Arena: 4.0, Noteworthy as an Elder Scrolls game by simply being the first which set the lore. Otherwise it's a fairly typical PC RPG of the era. Basically a DnD board with more restrictions.

Not really a TES game, but

Fallout 3: 9.0, The closest Bethesda has gotten to striking Morrowind-feel gold since the namesake of my obsession.

I sort of second this, but for a TES game I give it 7.0/10

On being a "tes" game i give it a 9...
Its blows morrowind and oblivion in my view...

It gets a 5 from me. The lack of depth and dynamics is inexcusable imo.

9/10 a few glitches here an there but it wasn't unexpected in a game of this size

in comparison to oblivion and morrowind...still a 9/10 in my eyes.

I agree with what several others have said.

I'd rate it about a 8.5/10 as a game by itself, but 6.5/10 as a TES game.

I think that says a lot about the quality of the series. Even a disappointing TES game is still more than worth the money and better than many other games out there.

In terms of what an Elder Scrolls game should have, yes, for me it's about a 9. Now if only they could take the Morrowind concept formula and blend it with modern graphics and game mechanics. That would equal Game of the Decade.

That is a valid point to make.
While Oblivion dissapointed some long term TES fans to the bone, it is still important to note that now after these six years or so the game does undeniably stand out as one of the best ones of that era.
Im not a fan of Oblivion by far, but by Meridia it sure was a lot better than other titles.

TES and Fallout are always better than most other titles. Oblivion, Fallouts 3 and NV and Skyrim have all been GOTYs for me.

Actually scratch that. Red Dead Redemption was my GOTY for 2010.

Out of 10?

Like a 90.