It's easier to just strangle them. Cuts off all sound as a byproduct. Do a drop move and it snaps their neck. Deed done. No mess, no fuss.

Oh, I agree. I was saying in terms of knives. I think it's less of a good idea, but it would work. I'd prefer hands on, and I prefer range to that. Just personal preference, I suppose.

I don't think anyone will have a problem equiping a silence etc to their guns in FNV. After all they've annouce customizing your weapons with silencers, scopes, barrels, etc.

First to bring a little Realism IT IS NOT A SILENCER Its a Suppressor and a Suppressor does NOT reduce the sound of a gunshot to close to Silence it Didn't work in Fallout 3 to Serve any Type of stealth Purpose.
FNV will be a BIG open Wasteland i would rather concern myself with finding a sturdy rifle to pick off Bighorn with. Then trying to make my gun silent Stealth only works with hand to hand combat "stealthy" guns are Un-realistic and not really Fun if you can just blow some guys head off it wouldn't make alot of Sense to sneak up behind him and Struggle to kill him. Asking For Refined Stealth Elements in FNV Is terrible PLEASE remove these threads all Suppressors really do is Make a gun "look cool" It reduces Bullet Velocity and Would be hard to find and install in a Wasteland. If i was stuck in the Mojave Wasteland i would be more concerned with Range of my guns i won't really get alot of Close Quarters fighting but a extra 50 feet range on a rifle could mean life or death while hunting or protecting myself from raiders.

I'm hoping you can build your own Perforator. It was one of the best weapons to use outside of VATS. Grade A fun gun. It would be nice to be able to get all the old favorites back in New Vegas. It made using Small Guns useful again for me even though I was hooked on Energy Weapons.

Stealth is a big part of the game for me, & if you don't like it don't use it.I like to play stealth/sniper characters,i enjoy that...let people play how they want to play.
And if a suppressor is only made to make a gun look cool,then why invent them in the first place.
As long as you play the game your way WTF does it matter you what other people like or want to do.
We all contribute money & popularity to the game,so why should people not want more things....yes there should be a limit....just be a little more open minded.
Just my view,wrong or right.

9mm wasnt the only silenced in fallout 3.... the sniper in the pitt...... but gun modds should silence weapons

That's why they hold their hand above their mouth in the movies


Can't you just jab it into the guys temple or something?

You could. It's not the easiest, medically. Look at my previous posts.

A screwdriver in the ear? With a Strength of 10, everything is possible! I'm not talking about what is medically easiest, realistic or effective, I'm talking badass here. But I guess pulling someone's head backwards in the hair as you are shoving a bowie knife up the back of the head is pretty darn badass aswell. While talking about killing methods in close combat, this one is not a quiet one, but I'd love to gauge someone's eyes out with my thumbs as an "Unarmed/Melee" character and having his eyes crippled and him unable to see me, shooting/swining blindly everywhere, as you sneak up behind him (sneaking is easier when he is blind), and do that knife-thing in the back of his head... or something that makes a lot more noise. Sometime the more noise a close combat fight makes, the cooler

@Savage

Agreed. I like the quick and quiet. But messy is also fun. I was just stating the more effective ways of being quiet.

I have fired a wet "supressed" .22LR semi-auto pistol firing sub-sonic rounds that made less noise than a key slipping into a door lock. You can believe me or not, but with the right gear, it's possible to almost completely silence some weapons.

Only if you want the knife to get stuck. Accross the throat works, but is not exactly quiet, and is incredibly messy. Base of the skull is better, but it's a smaller target, takes a lot more force and your knife can get stuck there too. Pull back the head and put the knife in under the chin through the roof of the mouth is good. Instant kill, not much blood, no sound, but a hard move to pull off. I still say it's easier to smash the throat with the bladelike bone on the base of the thumb, put a proper two-handed choke hold on while moving backwards to get the target off his feet and lower to the ground. 5 seconds - unconsious. 7 seconds - dead. If you need to finish them off quicker, apply choke hold as above, throw your feet out from under yourself and slam you shoulder into their head as they hit the ground. Snaps their neck like a chicken bone. Rinse and repeat on next tango.

As far as supressed weapons go, loud guns are for impressing other gang-bangers and shooting deer. Anybody with combat experience will tell you quiet and quick is the way to kill other people. You don't get them first, they get the chance to get you. Don't give them that chance.

Wouldn't such a weapon have less stopping power than a BB-gun, though?

That's a good point Mr. Sawyer, but you could have also said this: silencers in videogames act in the same way lasers and being shot a thousand times do, they aren't completely realistic, but they add an element of fun and fiction to the atmosphere. Silencers in movies and videogames have become an alternate reality law of physics, it's just what people have come to expect.

Using simple math, a .22LR bullet moving at about 700-900fps would mean that a BB (usually .17") would have to move faster than the speed of sound to generate the same kinetic energy. You know any supersonic BB guns?

No, but its range is reduced as compared to firing "normal" bullets.

Range needed = right against the back of the skull. Problem avoided mitigated.

edit: better word choice.

You make it sound easy. Not every situation allows such a point blank shot.

It was a manner of speaking.

While the stopping power is nothing to be relied upon, it would indeed make for a decent weapon indoors where stealth is an option.

Then you don't use the silenced .22. You gotta use the right tool for the job and a .22 is for real close-in dirty work. You gotta go longer, then you go real long or find a different way.

My point is, is that a subsonic bullet is reduced in range as compared to other bullets of the same caliber. And despite being subsonic, the gun still isn't "silenced."

Define silenced. See my above post. That gun I talked about would have been almost completely quiet if it were a single shot instead of semi-auto. That slight sound you heard was the action working. Take that away, and you hear .

I can only assume that most folks here have not had the chance to actually shoot any of this stuff. Or if you did, not the good stuff. I have. You'll have to take my word for it. Or not.

What're the odds of you getting a hold of the good stuff some 300 years after it was produced, during which time a few global conflicts and a nuclear holocaust have taken place?

Thats basically what I was getting at.



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