Eh? I thought you had to use one or the other?

Does this produce the same errors with the opening sequence? The Imperials/Stormcloaks + Hadvar/Ralof not engaging with each other in battle, and just standing there?

I had that with TesVAL, though it was the first SKSE version which may have been solved by now, not sure.

That's all solved now, in all version.

Good to know, thanks.

Yeah i thought so too first, but i accidentally forgot to remove one of them and it still worked fine.. got even 1-2 more fps

The reason these threads were separated was to make support for the different versions easier. You might note that Ysne started both threads.

Skyboost:
Frames, Time (ms), min, max, avg
2772, 6000, 44, 48, 46.200

TESVAL:
Frames, Time (ms), min, max, avg
2669 6000 44, 46, 44.483

Skyboost+TESVAL:
Frames, Time (ms), min, max, avg
2769, 6000, 44, 47, 46.150

Skyboost takes the lead but very marginal on my system, I'm going to do more testing in cpu intensive areas, these were done in the wild.

I SkyBoost independent from Script Dragon? The reason I ask is because I wanna use SKSE (and I think Script Dragon conflicts with SKSE from what I've heard). This mod seems to give more FPS than TESVAL so I wanna know if I can use SkyBoost and still have SKSE.

Also, just to be clear: SkyBoost can't be used at the same time as TESVAL, right?

Yes, you SkyBoost independant from Script Dragon. SkyBoost does come with a .dll that lets the game read .asi files (the same one from Script Dragon) but apart from that, they're independant.
Script Dragon and SKSE do not conflict. TESVAL and SkyBoost do, but that's because they fiddle with the same code. I use SkyBoost, Script Dragon and SKSE no problem.
It's apparantly not catastrophic if you do, but you really shouldn't.
;3

SkyBoost doesn't require Script Dragon. AFAIK SD shouldn't conflict with SKSE. I'm currently using SkyBoost + SKSE without issues on my laptop.

And no, you shouldn't use this + TESVAL. Assuming it loads, you're basically applying the same fixes. All Alex Blade did was convert as much of the original plugin as possible into C++ and add a bit of his own optimization.

And ninja'd. Oh well (

Skyboost does NOT require ScriptDragon...though it DOES use the same .asi loader as ScriptDragon (dinput8.dll)

ScriptDragon does NOT conflict with SKSE at all...I run them both all the time...zero issues.

Skyboost(r2) and TESVAL(03) can be run at the same time...I'm almost certain that in eary build this was not the case...but I have both up and running concurrently...not apparent conflicts or issues.

These readings were taken viewing the market area in Solitude.

No optimization:
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1409, 60000, 22, 24, 23.483

TESVAL:
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1778, 60000, 28, 31, 29.633

Skyboost:
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1870, 60000, 30, 32, 31.167

Skyboost+TESVAL:
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
1817, 60000, 29, 31, 30.283

Skyboost just takes a marginal lead again, I'll keep looking closely at both files for updates, you have both done a great job, thank you.
I did Skyboost+TESVAL because someone else did, as you can see mine results show no improvement over Skyboost alone.

Current system setup:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945, stock clock 3.0ghz
RAM: 16gb 1600mhz, made up from a pair of corsairs and a pair of kingstons
GPU: GTX470, vidmem 1280mb, stock clock 607mhz, 290.53 drivers with SSAO set to quality.
MB: Gigabyte technology, GA-MA790FXT-UD5P

Thanks for the answers!

Also nice comparisons RunningBare. Good for those who wanna know which one got the biggest FPS increase.

Hey, anyone know the deal with this and ENB's AntiFREEZE? I know if I leave ENB 096 on I don't get any increase with Sky Boost. If I remove AntiFREEZE I get 25% improvement at the two benchmark locations (Whiterun & Markarth). I can't remember any more if I actually need AntiFREEZE but might be nice to leave it on as it fixes some other glitches...

I have a good Rig (w/GTX 580) and this even helps me.

Dragonsreach, looking down at the worst point (Keep in mind, many ini tweaks and mods)

Vanilla: 36
TESVAL: 45
SkyBoost: 47

Thanks for this Every little bit helps!

Running them both at the same time is pointless. They are modifying the same game code to do the same thing. SkyBoost has added a few more modifications to areas that TESVAL didn't touch, and removed a couple of the modifications that TESVAL modified that conflict with other mods. Overall, if you want the most comprehensive set of changes, you should use SkyBoost. SkyBoost also has the added benefit that it checks the memory locations, before it modifies them, to make sure no other mod has already inserted their hooks at that location first.

I'm getting no boost while ENBSeries 0.101 is installed. If I remove the ENB D3D9.dll, I get 31 FPS in the area right inside the front door of Solitude. With it installed, I get 19, which is what I get without SkyBoost.

I never noticed TESVAL working either, it probably clashed with ENB as well.

Is it possible to fix? The colors in Skyrim look so bleh without ENB's HDR effect...

Id like to hear some more about this as well as Im using the enb freeze fix as well . are you saying that skyboost wont work with it ? becuase Im running both and it seems to work fine .

Default Skyrim:

http://i.picoodle.com/879iutqo

TESVAL:

http://i.picoodle.com/13biutqq

SkyBoost:

http://i.picoodle.com/bb4iutqr

TESVAL is awsome, but i rather use Skyboost because is faster and i dont need to use SKSE, im staying with Skyboost... even if its only 1fps faster, will there be even further performance increase in future versions of Skyboost?

Wait, it's antifreeze? How does one disable that function? I see "AntiBSOD" in my ENB INIs, but nothing about antifreeze.

Yeah...sorry if my comment about running them together causes any confusion...I just tried it to see what would happen..and they work fine together or so it would seem.

There is no vaild reason or advantage to running them both.

At this point Skyboost seems to be giving an ever-so-slightly bigger gain than TESVAL, but I like that both are available. I use both SKSE and Scriptdragon, but I know there are some folk out there that prefer on or the other for various reasons.

FWIW, I am running with ENB 101 (which has integrated AntiFREEZE) and both SB and TESVAL are working with it enabled.

Thanks for the clarifications (coming from the original fixer of Arisu's code). I'll keep this version installed for the time being.

SKSE is great though. Specifically Container Categorization and SkyUI are excellent mods that require SKSE. Not advocating one version of the optimization over the other, I have both, I use them alternately to test performance and both are exceptionally comparable. But I have both SD and SKSE so neither version bothers me in the slightest.

I wonder if the anti-freeze patch is even necessary anyomre?

I have asked a moderator to clean up the flaming posts. Please try to keep it civil?