Skyrim game jam!

Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:32 am

Aye Thanks for sharing, didn't have to at all but it was great in all forms of the word.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:04 pm

As Todd mentioned in the keynote, we can't do everything, and everything shown was done after the game shipped.

And as a reminder, and as Todd mentioned in the keynote, none of what you saw are confirmed features for updates, DLC, etc.. Some of that stuff will make it in, but not everything.

Glad you guys enjoyed the video! Matt & Mark did a great job pulling it together. It was cool having it shared with the whole company, but even cooler to be able to share it with you.

Yeah he said Number 2. Keep It SImple, sorry but in other words IMO dumbed down. If this was the case and 10 years ago I would have probably played TES 3 for a month and sold it. However I saw so much potential for future games and basically felt like more and more features have been removed since for the sake of visuals. More combat and graphics and less complex content doesn't make a good game. Todd can make all the excuses he can. But the reality is TES is being more and more gutted as time goes on. Now we have 18 skills and half of those are so easily exploitable it isn't even funny. Most of the storylines are so generic and watered down now. Oblivion had better quests and I was dead set against Oblivion and played it longer then Skyrim. I have never put down a TES game this fast in less then 2 months and can not seem to make myself want to play it more.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:09 am

First thought... Whoa... That stuff was so cool to watch and should be in DLC... take my money now goddammit!
Second thought... lol mubcrab boss!
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:06 am

I have never put down a TES game this fast in less then 2 months and can not seem to make myself want to play it more.

Although I certainly respect your opinion, as per the keynote lots of people are putting in large amounts of time playing this game.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:41 am

Who knows? Like Gstaff said, some might end up in DLC, many will probably never see the light of day. Such is the capricious nature of Game Jam...

You guys do realize it's a license to print money. You could release ideas like this for DLC for the next couple years and still make a killing, lol.

US PC players can rely on modders, but official stuff is always awesome.

That said, we all want Fallout 4, so I see the problem :D

Nah seriously though, if half of those things make it my money is already on the table.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:20 pm

Although I certainly respect your opinion, as per the keynote lots of people are putting in large amounts of time playing this game.

I actually started playing Skyrim Casually, after my 150 hours, I boot it up every now and then, play an hour or so, test out some mods. Its great fun. No need to be glued to the screen like the initial time you played it.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:20 am

You guys do realize it's a license to print money. You could release ideas like this for DLC for the next couple years and still make a killing, lol.

US PC players can rely on modders, but official stuff is always awesome.

That said, we all want Fallout 4, so I see the problem :biggrin:

Nah seriously though, if half of those things make it my money is already on the table.
Agreed
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:15 am

Game jam was great! So awesome seeing the crazy things they can do with the game. Its just the time constraints holding back a lot of their ideas I would assume.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:36 am

That whole speech and the small clip of gamejam (which blew me away) just made me respect you guys so much more. My highlights of the gamejam was the spears, mounted combat, and the idea of more perk trees, but truly all of it was amazing!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:31 pm

Video links are private?
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:10 am

What were some of your other favorite parts?

The process of how they put stuff in the game or decided not to.

Seasonal foliage changes. build a house, though I'm not sure I'd want a skeletal butler. ( I sooooo envy pc users, their's already a mod out for that)
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:20 pm

Yeah he said Number 2. Keep It SImple, sorry but in other words IMO dumbed down. If this was the case and 10 years ago I would have probably played TES 3 for a month and sold it. However I saw so much potential for future games and basically felt like more and more features have been removed since for the sake of visuals. More combat and graphics and less complex content doesn't make a good game. Todd can make all the excuses he can. But the reality is TES is being more and more gutted as time goes on. Now we have 18 skills and half of those are so easily exploitable it isn't even funny. Most of the storylines are so generic and watered down now. Oblivion had better quests and I was dead set against Oblivion and played it longer then Skyrim. I have never put down a TES game this fast in less then 2 months and can not seem to make myself want to play it more.

Bottom line is the majority of gamers want to have fun and not engage in punishing, life consuming gameplay. Yes I agree with watering down of story somewhat. But they went the right direction IMO to make the game more fun for a broader audience without completely killing it. Saying it's gutted is over dramatic. I will say though that now that they have captured the attention of millions of more fans that may have not otherwise played a TES game, I'd like to see them go a bit more hardcoe next game around, AKA more stats and ones that aren't game breaking.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:21 pm

Video links are private?

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/gamespot-live/?event=skyrims_todd_howard_dice_keynote20120208
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:17 pm

Keep it Simple is a great design mantra to have. There's a saying that you achieve perfection not when you cannot add anymore, but when you cannot take anymore away. This is true.

However, "Simple" is an extremely loose term that can be interpreted wildly. You can develop a game and try to keep things simple but end up accidently over complicating or over simplifying. It's hard to tell if you are getting to a balanced simple without some outside eyes trying your stuff.

There's also an issue of how to make complex things simple as well. For example, the obvious approach would be to "light the way" for the player when you are trying to introduce a complicated game idea. Another appproach might be to cut some stuff out to not muddy the waters. Another approach to keep things simple for the player would be to design everything so that it's intuitive and tactile to use, so complicated things feel easy and as such just make natural sense in our brains. The latter is the best approach IMO, because it also has the side effect of allowing you to greatly challenge the player without making them feel like the game is cheating them, and giving them great personal fun and satsifaction when they succeed.

Dark Souls is a game that does this to a great degree- the game is very punishing, and has many complicated elements to it, but because it is so intuitive to play and tacticile, it doesn't feel frustriating when you lose or when you face challenge - it feels fun. On the consumer electronics world, this is also why Apple is widly successful. Their devices are smartly designed, and they are made to be as intutive as possible. They don't flourish because they are "simple" - but because it just makes sense to use for the average person, and it focuses on one thing and does it really well.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:23 am

The video is private..can someone provide a link to a unblocked version..? I really want to see this :(
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:53 pm

If a dev is handy could you just whisper to me when the next game jam will be because I want to go to there.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:05 am

I'm at 10 minutes in and I've got a couple thoughts.

1. That 30 fps thing is bullcrap. The PS3 version is fluctuating in the mid 20s at best.

2. Skyrim most certainly does not connect all those things and doesn't have reactions to the character's actions. Todd pulled that one right out of thin air.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:44 am

If a dev is handy could you just whisper to me when the next game jam will be because I want to go to there.

Todd just drops that on us out of nowhere, so we never know when it is. He will just drop in on a friday and say "GAME JAM NEXT WEEK, do what ever you want!"
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:41 pm

can someone PLEASE post a youtube link that isn't private..that gamespot video thing does not work, it just buffers constantly even if i pause it for like 10 minutes...
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:32 am

can someone PLEASE post a youtube link that isn't private..that gamespot video thing does not work, it just buffers constantly even if i pause it for like 10 minutes...

scroll up a couple of posts and their is a link their that works just fine, or it just did for me.

Edit: just started the video again from the link magyaronny has, no buffereing problem starts right up ( for me ) check your pc?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:14 pm

that link is to the gamespot website which is what I'm talking about areial
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:34 am

As the great Phillip J Fry would say,

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:10 pm

that link is to the gamespot website which is what I'm talking about areial

Yes I know I started it once before I posted and started it again and edited my post... I didn't have a problem..... sorry
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:57 pm

it works if you have a fast internet connection, but those of us who don't it buffers for 8 minutes and then plays for 2 seconds constnatly, it's unwatchable.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:46 am

As the great Phillip J Fry would say,

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

Screw money....Bethesda, you can have my soul :obliviongate:
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