» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:51 am http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1366003-why-skyrim-isnt-a-great-rpg-or-tes-game-part-2/
Continuing from the last post:
Bethesda tries to make things as oblivious to each other as possible while they should be going the other way, making the world interconnected as possible. Lobotomizing RAI to avoid chaos, making factions unaware of each others and now, whole disposition system is gone. No one is aware about each other in Skyrim. RS is about expanding on a base(of zero), it is designed to avoid the consequences of an interconnected world. The consequences must be embraced. That is a good thing, Bethesda must trust the maturity of the players, if it is not railroading but my choice to piss off a group and that closes doors to me, that's OK. Failure is a big part of the experience. We value the accomplishments by comparing them to our failures. Why do we fall? So we can rise again.
I mean, if it was possible they would find a way to make both civil war questlines doable at the same time. I am 100% sure, they did brainstorming on this, tried to defeat logic, anywhere possible. Their direction is wrong, that's what I am saying. We are literally going backwards, so much time is lost.
http://youtu.be/3Bd4I0Wu3Ss
I want her to be a real person with a real family. I don't want these abstracted, staged encounters. These are so immersion breaking. I mean, this is the good part of the game. Where I encounter a captive which is amazing, my most immersed moment in the game. But I learned the truth that captives are random generation without a beginning and an end. It is an illusion. The potentially best part of the game is a cheap mechanic to adjust your morality, metagaming at its best. Skyrim is even more oblivious, it is not even trying hiding its railroading. It is just linear.
What I am saying is these parts should be integrated into the world mechanics. Actual NPCs capturing actual NPCs and these having actual consequences in the world. That would be a world. Being able to try bribing every single NPC in the world, or taunting them. That's a mechanic. For example, reporting a crime. Can we do that? With pure mechanics. Can we make a false report? The possibilities are endless.
I go on and on about Morrowind not because I suffer from nostalgia and stuck in the past but because I think it is the one that shows the spark, the ambition towards these ideals. It makes me think about a sequel with all the cool possibilities. It is amazing that ten years later, from that dream inducing poor Morrowind we came to this brilliant arcade game. A brilliant game but it must be understandable why I am pissed here.
This stuff is too important to be discussed under this stagnated RPG genre. Maybe immersive sim would be a better title to talk about progression. I don't trust RPGs to be RPGs.
I mean, if it was possible they would find a way to make both civil war questlines doable at the same time. I am 100% sure, they did brainstorming on this, tried to defeat logic, anywhere possible. Their direction is wrong, that's what I am saying. We are literally going backwards, so much time is lost.
http://youtu.be/3Bd4I0Wu3Ss
I want her to be a real person with a real family. I don't want these abstracted, staged encounters. These are so immersion breaking. I mean, this is the good part of the game. Where I encounter a captive which is amazing, my most immersed moment in the game. But I learned the truth that captives are random generation without a beginning and an end. It is an illusion. The potentially best part of the game is a cheap mechanic to adjust your morality, metagaming at its best. Skyrim is even more oblivious, it is not even trying hiding its railroading. It is just linear.
What I am saying is these parts should be integrated into the world mechanics. Actual NPCs capturing actual NPCs and these having actual consequences in the world. That would be a world. Being able to try bribing every single NPC in the world, or taunting them. That's a mechanic. For example, reporting a crime. Can we do that? With pure mechanics. Can we make a false report? The possibilities are endless.
I go on and on about Morrowind not because I suffer from nostalgia and stuck in the past but because I think it is the one that shows the spark, the ambition towards these ideals. It makes me think about a sequel with all the cool possibilities. It is amazing that ten years later, from that dream inducing poor Morrowind we came to this brilliant arcade game. A brilliant game but it must be understandable why I am pissed here.
This stuff is too important to be discussed under this stagnated RPG genre. Maybe immersive sim would be a better title to talk about progression. I don't trust RPGs to be RPGs.
