I'm with this guy.

1) Ok let's get real, look at the list. The only two it can even really qualify for are Best Game and best of 2011.

2) I'm willing to argue that we'll actually see Skyrim win LESS awards as time goes on. Skyrim had hella hype upon release. Now the hype is dead, let's see what happens.

Yeah great. Except several awards and thousands of players would disagree with you.

I just don't get the Portal love. Its a 15 minute amusing tech innivation streched out way beyoundits time of being amusing to me.

Same could be said of Skyrim, but without the innovation.

Still going strong for me while the charm of Portal wore off after less than an hour.

Again, same could be said about Skyrim.

I have put more hours into League of Legends than I have in Skyrim.

Well , I guess now I've communicated with someone who actually liked League of Legends, We obviously notice and like and ignore the exact opposite things in games. I disagree about you earlier your tech demo commen but the 2nd is obviously preference.

For me, having a pretty world (Skyrim) is not enough to keep me hooked.

I couldn't care less that I could spend 100 hours just looking for things; looking for things is arbitrary, looking for things is just a fetch quest.

What is important to me is that the world has a weight to it, is believable, one that makes me feel like being this character is something "true."

In a world like Skyrim, that claims Khajiit aren't allowed in cities or towns (even if they just mean Khajiit merchants) but just let me stroll on by, having never seen me before, shows me the environment is lacking weight and is not believable.

They don't even stop to ask me who I am or what I am doing, even though I am a race that, in lore, is notorious for theft, smuggling, etc.

In a world like Skyrim, in Windhelm, that seems anti- or at least disliking of, Dark Elves, they barely treat a Dark Elf (mine) differently. I walk into the Inn, ask for a room and the Innkeeper says "great... another Dark Elf, just what we need" in a sarcastic tone but then happily only charges me 10 gold (like everywhere else in the world) means the atmosphere the game has provided is useless.

In a world like Skyrim where I can make Heavy Armor effing weightless, thus negating one of its biggest weaknesses, then the choice between Light Armor and Heavy Armor is meaningless in the first place.

If Skyrim was 100% exploration, no combat, no people, nothing, then the weight of the world would hook me because the weight would come from the expansive landscape alone.

And yet you all still play the game and come onto these forums to post about how much you hate it. Despite the fact that you will wake up tomorrow, start up Skyrim and play for a few hours before coming to troll these forums. I wonder why it is that so many of you still play the game and stick around on the forums if it was such a huge pile of garbage? You all make me laugh.

Fact is Skyrim has received praise from many gaming media outlets and fans, and all of you who claim the game is such "trash" still find reasons to play it and still get on these forums to complain. Clearly Bethesda did something right that even such an acclaimed "horrible game" keeps so many haters hooked.

Who says I still play?

Thanks for making an assumption.

I come to the forums because it's one of the few game sites I can access at work and I am currently going to school for game design, so naturally, I'm going to go to places where I can talk about game design.

Skyrim is a classic 'love/hate' relationship, like the beautiful, elegant girl you're dating (in my dreams, hah!), who, underneath that gorgeous exterior, is rather shallow and full of petty and annoying faults. But she's still fairly decent in the hay, so you keep going back to her after spending a few hours griping to your buddies about her various issues. But, unlike that imaginary real life gal, Skyrim (or it's progeny) might actually come around and develop into something much better, with enough griping input about said issues. Part of my job here is to keep those issues front and center in hopes of attaining that, not to just pat them on the back and pretend it's perfect and that nothing is wrong or needful of improving. If we didn't love it, we wouldn't bother trying. I don't consider it trash, either.

As for any haters who just don't like the game at all, don't play it anymore, and just want to bash to be bashing... I don't understand why they would keep posting here, either. Surely there are more enjoyable pursuits out there.

Bingo.

I'm not a Call of Duty fan at all, I have my feelings on how the game could be better balanced but I don't care enough about the game to visit their forums.

At least I have/had some caring about Skyrim.

Bafta, Schmafta. I don't need awards to justify how much I like this game.

^This

Probably would have given the music to Skyrim. As for the rest, well I suppose I was disappointed with Skyrim so I don't think it deserved any other awards. That said, I don't think BF3 deserved any either. Portal 2 was genius though and I'm happy they were rewarded for the creativity that went towards it.

I don't play it any more. I don't hate it either. I just felt it was severely dumbed down and dull compared to previous TES games. That's just how I feel though, I can appreciate lots of other people would view it differently, I was simply disappointed with it. As for why I still come here, after playing it I still have a knowledge of what is going on in the game and I do enjoy trying to contribute if I can on the forums since they've been very helpful for me in the past and will be in the future.

I agree with you that constant input and criticism helps improve the game. I just find it funny how many post i see on here from people claiming the game is utter garbage for some reason they still come on here wasting their time and still play the game despite how utter garbage it is.

As for your woman anology I guess that applies to a few because I've dated women based on looks who had personalities as deep as one of the puddles in my driveway and I promptly dump them. I wouldn't deal with a woman and her issues just because she was good looking, plenty of good looking women in the world who actually have their act straight why suffer from one who does? Same can be said with games. I play Skyrim because I enjoy it despite all of its flaws. However the way some people talk is like this game is total trash that didn't deserve to see the light of day and I wonder why it is they stick around? I would of moved on to a different game, and I have done so in the past.

Fact is people are still around either the forums or playing the game because there is something they like about the game that keeps them hooked.

Just because Skyrim didn't get 1 reward means nothing when it has gotten GOTY from just about every other media outlet their is. So really, it's all a moot point, just someone trying to prove something that isn't there to be proven in the first place.

I don't play Skyrim. The game is lacking elements that are fundamental to what made the Elder Scrolls series a unique example of the RPG genre. I have never dropped a TES game so quickly. I played Oblivion steadily into 2009 across all three platforms. The magic system in Skyrim is utter crap... missing features and spells, the lack of attributes results in little need to replay with other characters and the lack of major skills forces players to level up for actions incidental to their class.

I'm here because I'm not playing the game and I bought Skyrim to occupy my time for the next 2-3 years and it will one way or the other. So unless Skyrim gets fixed I'll remain here... consider it to be exactly what Todd Howard was asking for.




It is the series I love, Skyrim isn't worthy of love. Skyrim as it is now is like the chick you wake up next to after getting really drunk and leave before she wakes up. Complaining about Skyrim is like wanting to make an honest woman out of her.

Yup I gave up there, clearly I can see where you are going. If I wanted to play Morrowind I have a copy, some HD texture mods I can download and all the free time in the world to play Morrowind. Your problem is you wanted Morrowind 1, Morrowind 2, Morrowind 3, Morrowind 4 and you aren't getting it so you are PO'ed. I've seen this all over the forums. Because Bethesda decided to do something different that forced the game to focus on gameplay instead of nerd stats you feel the game is killed.

If you want a game that never changes and is never innovative might I suggest you take up call of duty? I warn you though a lot of people hate that game because its stagnant and never changes. Kinda like how people hate this game for being different and trying new things. The gaming community is so funny. Never enough innovation, to much innovation, not enough cow bell, to much cow bell. Gamers will never be able to make up their minds.

I have to disagree with you here. I think it's fair enough that people who like Magic based characters are annoyed over the complete dumbing down of the magic system. Ditto for the dumbing down of attributes and skills. they didn't need to remove them to improve it as a game. For many people it lowered the quality of the game. I don't think any of us wanted a game that never changed, I wanted a game that was improved on, even more creative and more enjoyable than previous TES games. Instead I got Oblivion with fewer spells, nicer textures and more boring quests (of course this is only my opinion, others will like it and that's completely okay) I don't see Skyrim as being, in any way, a massive leap forward in the TES universe which I'm disappointed about because I know Bethesda were capable of bringing it so much further than they did.

A quote from the Halo Reach forum, since Skyrim reflects Halo Reach very well:


Did Skyrim try something different? Yep, sure did. I don't mind that we don't have stats like Wisdom, Charisma, etc. But that doesn't mean what Skyrim did was necessarily good either.

Actually, going into Skyrim... even in the early parts of playing the game... Attributes and Birthsigns were unimportant to me. Then as I got a feel for the results for what that meant to gameplay, only then did I care. If I am what I play, then why would I be something different on subsequent runs? If I'm making what I think are the logical choices, why would I choose others? When it comes to skills I wasn't sure about the loss of major skills one way or the other and the reason I grew to hate the loss of choosing major skills was purely from leveling up on useless skills [lockpicking, talking to people and selling stuff]. And Magic is just crap, with Destruction as frustrating as Melee is easy.


How should I put this in a way thats ToS friendly enough...


The reason Rodney Dangerfield knew he wasn't a "boob man" was because everybody told him what he really was. If you see the same complaints all over this forum, that's a pretty good indication of it being a problem.

Also, Bioware tried new things with Dragon Age 2 too, it still svcked.

The best opinion is you're own, i love the game and think its 1st class!
most of the games on that awards list, i do not own or have never played because they dont appeal to me at all!

Just saw Battlefield 3 at the bottom of the list, which is the only game i own on that list

True wisdom in your post.

I seriously cant imagine how you can still play this game without getting bored within the first half hour. There are so few interesting quest, to many fetch quests, so many repetitive dungeons, so few unique items and no choice/consequence at all. What have you been doing to keep this game from becoming boring? I would really like to know.