I'm sorry, but there's no way a 360 could run Skyrim on Ultra settings on its own scaled down (and then upscaped) console resolution, let alone 1080p. Skyrim never ran with anything near 'PC quality graphics/textures' on consoles. I got Skyrim on release for PC and almost all of my friends got it for xbox, and I honestly don't see how you think the xbox version looks good. I guess you're just used to low resolution and graphical capabilities. Not saying that you weren't struck with WORSE resolution and graphical capabilities, but there's no way your 360 could dream of running any modern PC game on max, or even come close for that matter.



When the 360 was first released, mid-end gaming PCs were superior. The 360 has 512mb of RAM, a 3-core processor, and other laughable hardware. The PS3 has half of the RAM of the 360.

The PS3 was released Nov 11th, 2006.

Now look at the minimum specs for GRAW (released May 2, 2006; the PC version, completely different from the console version):

Supported OS: Windows 2000/XP (only)
Processor: 2 GHz Pentium IV or equivalent (2.8 GHz recommended)
RAM: 1024 MB
Video Card: DirectX 9-compliant Shader 2.0 card with 128 MB of VRAM (256 MB recommended) (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9-compliant sound card (PC audio solution containing Dolby Digital Live required for Dolby Digital audio)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (included on disc)
CD-ROM: 12x or faster CD-ROM or 2x or faster DVD-ROM
Hard Drive Space: 5 GB
Multiplay: 64 Kbps upstream or faster broadband connection

Consoles were outdated before they were released. They were subject to jokes back then when people would compare them to the (obviously better) PC as a gaming platform. It's not elitism or ignorance, it's just pure facts and comparing information.

First, most people on this forum play Skyrim on a PC, so getting someone who knows what there talking about or what your talking about is slim. Skyrim on Xbox is comparable to about medium settings on PC, the difference between ultra and medium while noticeable is not that huge. I own both the 360 version and the PC version.


1. Do you have the game installed to the hard-drive? There was an issue with texture scaling on the hard-drive, that was suppose to be fixed in a earlier patch.


2. If not, have you tried installing to the hard-drive? Pulling textures from the hard-drive should be quicker than pulling from the disk.

How it has not been said I don't know. Maybe it has and I didn't notice. The OP is on an xbox360, his problem pertains to an xbox360. How it could be running on a PC instead does NOT matter for this discussion. Yes we all know PC>console... we also all know that PC $$$ > console $ especially when you figure the upgrades a PC needs over a five year stretch. We got it... no need to keep talking about it, it has no point to this discussion.

I also have an xbox360, and I have also had this problem. I notice waterfalls don't start flowing till I'm pretty close to them. The game froze while running out in the open for the first time. It had frozen before, but always at a time when a lot was going on.... not by myself outside. I have also had a few glitches that I didn't have prior to 1.4. I've had two different quest givers send me to do something I already did, and since I couldn't do it again they would never give me more quests. One was the college librarian, he sent me after a book he already had, and the Jarl's helper in Windhelm sent me after a dragon that was already dead... and he does not respawn.....

I also kept running into issues where quest givers in the civil war quests would attack me if I had ANY bounty(5gold) in ANY hold(even an enemy hold). Thank azura I was already master of the thieves guild so I paid off all bountys quick, but it took a while to figure out that was why they were attacking me.

1.4 svcks, didn't even fix the atronach absorbing summon spells. We need 1.5, and we need it to work.

This may be an issue with installing the patch over old patches or needing to start a new game... you may want to remove the old patches from the system cache (clearing cache removes all patches for all games) then re-download the patch again so it is a fresh install. I would also start a new game and see if the issue is still present afterwards.

While some slow texture pop-ins can be expected on a console... it should be nothing more than a few seconds. If you literally have to wait minutes, then something is defiantly not right.

Perhaps you should list the steps you have tried, so we know what not to suggest?

It has been said, multiple times, even stated by the OP at the very beginning... but somewhere along the way some PC owners got it into their heads that this was some kind of graphics comparison debate. I'm glad all of your computers have amazing graphics, but honestly, we could care less... and so what you PC's have better graphics, that's not what this post is about. This is about XBOX 360 owners that have seen a graphics and performance downgrade since 1.4...... That is all.

Someone that's actually trying to help. I'm amazed. I have tried, but I thank you for actually reading the topic and trying to contribute something useful to the problem. +200 internets.

You see, this is simply untrue. This is what I was saying, but all of you post incorrect information as fact. I was merely letting everyone know that those assumptions are baseless.

Okay how about what I posted in post # 2... this is trial and error I'm afraid.

Your preaching to the choir mate... like the fella you quoted said, it has no basis for this problem and not much point...



Yes I always keep my games installed, except for that hiccup before 1.2 where installing it to the hard drive would actually cause the problem. At this point in time I've tried both, the only difference is, installing seems to help a bit with the frame-rate drops but, my textures are messed up, As I said.. Bethesda has fixed it once, I'm sure they will again =]

(Edit) I would also like to point out to those of you that are assuming this is a disk scratch problem, buddy of mine up the road is not having any texture problems, plenty of freezes and the like, but no texture issues.. we have tried his disk in my box... same scenario. (End Edit)

Sorry I was referring to this:

There could be an issue with installing the patch over the old patches... also is your Xbox is a well ventilated area? Does it only happen when a lot is going on or in certain areas? Note that clearing the system cache means you will need to re-download all your patches for all your games.

Very ventilated, as my oldest laptop developed overheating problems, I've been very careful with my xbox, going so far as to buy a small desk fan to sit next to it and help it to stay cool heh. Also ever since my warranty expired, I take my box apart once a month for cleaning and such I have not tryed uninstalling the patches and re-downloading, I'm on Hughes Net satellite internet, so I have to contend with download times, I will set an alarm and get up at 1 a.m tonight and try your idea as it seems to be a logical step.

Also, no it seems to happen completely randomly, but it has been ever present since 1.4 and has slowly gotten worse as time progresses... I've tryed making new characters and going back to said town after clearing the cache and still no luck. As I said I'll try to redownload patches tonight.

Also note as I edited, that clearing the system cache means you will have to re-download all the patches for all your games, however... I believe Skyrim actually stores the update where the saves are located... but if you just remove that you may not remove everything stored in the cache which may still cause you issues.

Yea I don't mind to have to redownload my other games patches... I don't really mess with them much since Skyrim came out =P So delete them directly from save file, then clear system cache, redownload patches, and check?

Since you don't mind, just clear system cache (that should remove the patches), you may also want to install it to the hard-drive if you don't already have it installed, and finally I would start a new game with 1.4 to see if the issue is present. That will tell you if your saved game is an issue.

Also it's only a 10 MB download I believe so it should not take you long even with satellite internet.

I think what your trying to say is if the patches changed a couple of the textures. *cause i didn't understand [censored] from you or the other users* lol

There is a couple of videos showing comparison in textures. Bethesda did take off a couple of textures here and there also from trees and roads and walls. I am not sure why this was done. I don't think it was necessary it was on PS3 and Xbox 360, but i agree with you. I haven't seen anyone actually start like .. something about it. Also i have seen this on my PS3 verison.

Also there suppose to be a High-Res Textures pack running at 720p for consoles, but they haven't release it. They have been lowering it instead. Also Kill Cams? What kind of Bull [censored] is that? That's supppose to for Fallout only. Bethesda don't [censored] copy of other games. Instead of doing that release something good for console gamers.

It was my understanding, that the issue here was textures taking a long time to "pop-in" or is the issue that textures were changed completely in 1.4? I haven't played much on my Xbox since 1.4, but I didn't noticed anything major looking different. Hmmm

I cleared cache before ever posting here, but, I believe someone told me that 1.4 is stored directly to the skyrim folder or something, so will have to delete the patch from hard drive and clear cache.



Not just a couple textures... I've got whole towns, that... for lack of a better term, I'll quote a previous poster; look like someone made the textures out of pudding... looks like oblivion graphics... and it's highly noticeable when say... you have a house that looks like it supposed to, sitting next to a house that looks like they ported it from oblivion. Also, on the kill cam addition, I won't look a gift horse in the mouth, I'll welcome any free addition... would like a way to turn it off from time to time though. Before anything else... I just want them to fix my experience to the way it was.

Here is a video that some may find useful, it uses they old menu though... so something's may be a little different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjhb1Ztn5wQ&feature=related

So let me get this straight... The PC graphics are SUPPOSED TO BE INFERIOR TO THE 360?!

You have the same exact insight as me friend. I thank you for this. Instead of going "OH just bai a PeeCee itll be all guuud!!!111"...

My game BEFORE 1.4 did not look like this at all, it's the game itself that has deranked it's own textures. These texture bugs ARE NOT, I REPEAT ARE NOT the same issues that happened with 1.2 (hands and inventory), this is ENVIRONMENT now. If you can't understand THAT after saying it 1,000 times.. get out of this topic.

It is NOT my TV, Harddrive, or Console. It's the game people! Why do you keep defending it like it's the Holy Grail?!

I simply just want what this guy keeps trying to say: My game back to the way it USED TO BE. Not HIGH RES like the PC but at highest quality that the console CAN GO. I MYSELF say HighRes just to define the consoles max texturing and graphical layout. I'm not saying NOR DID I EVER say I wanted a Highres pack on consoles OR the consoles to GO highres for that matter. Never said it, quit putting words in my mouth thanks.

What I don't understand the most is: What is taking SO damn long to give us a changelog with 1.5, when all the other updates were ASAP. We know killcams are coming.. what the hell else is to hide?! Why are you taking your time with this BGS? I don't get it..

Sry to be an a-hole, but that was the thing I was using day-in, day-out after 1.3.5.0 was released. It helped me EVERY SINGLE TIME. It will absolutely NOT work after 1.4 though.. I've even tried different methods to his.. and nothing.

Literally people over 10+ hrs of my life spent trying to FIX this game, when BETHESDA should be fixing it, not the CONSUMER. Never have I ever had this many issues with just one game in my entire life of playing on consoles. I understand fully Skyrim was pushed to its limits.. but maybe you shouldn't have GONE that far BGS. Nobody was asking you too..

Xbox user here.

I'm all about supporting consoles, as you've seen me do numerous times on this website. However, I'll be the first to admit that consoles are very limited and the current generation is outdated. This has nothing to do with Bethesda ignoring us. It's not like other arguments where bethesda wont fix bugs because modders can, which leaves console players with buggy games, this is out of bethesda's hands. If you want to peg the blame on someone, go to the microsoft forums.

Also, you seem to be over reacting a bit and are acting a bit hostile. There's no need for that.

To the OP, I know what you are talking about. We have a ps3, so I don't think its just the 360. But I have to say that I have seen these muddy textures before ANY patches, although. I am seeing them more often.
On one of my sons' play-throughs he killed a dragon that had "primitive" textures, and I noticed some items, mainly clothing and armor look this way in the inventory screen. My son says that the texture just didn't finish loading. I'm just wondering if there is still some memory issues to be sorted out.

I had a dragon look that way the other day as it was flying around and even after it landed and I got up close to it the textures never loaded. It was made up of very basic shapes and almost no textures at all. It looked terrible. The textures never loaded even as I was fighting it up close with my warrior. This was on the 360.

PC graphics were better in Oblivion. Texture quality and resolution was higher. Consoles ran on medium PC settings.

Skyrim looks worse on consoles because computers have gotten better since 2006, but the 360 hasn't. Do you think Bethesda should deliberately make Skyrim's PC textures bad so you don't feel jealous?

Childish insult noted.

Pro-tip: don't be offensive when you are also displaying your ignorance. People will beat up on you twice instead of once.