A continued game would be nice, and play hour 101

hey then why not load up the save you made before going on the end run and you know playing that extra hour? XD

We all have ideals of our own, and I can't match up mine and my personality with anyone relevant in the game. And doing it yourself is so unfullfilling.

Thanks to all who keep the topic civil and keep any discussion outside of personal.

I think that might be intentional. I find myself making decisions based on things other than being in total agreement with the faction's views. It really gets me thinking and I find it to be refreshingly realistic. I find myself actually put in that position very often in real life, while being presented with clear-cut "good vs. evil" decisions is pretty rare. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if you're presented with an important decision that's that clear-cut in real life you're probably being manipulated or played in some way. The important decisions are never that easy if you're really looking at all of the facts objectively. Sometimes you have to make touch decisions and there's oftentimes no ideal choice to bail you out of that task.

When you think about it being given a choice between a clear "good" and a clear "evil" is not a choice at all, since the concepts of good and evil are so subjective and often used to railroad people down a path that's preferred by someone else (usually the person characterizing the choices as "good" or "evil.") The fact that the word, "good," is synonymous with "desirable" should probably be a clue that you're being told what to think.


Always a "good" thing. :foodndrink:

Reminds me of Dragon Age Origins where a lot of what I thought were the logical "good" decisions ended up making everyone pissed off and had companions leaving my camp..... So I felt forced to play by their rules. I think people forget that "self-sacrifice" is not automatically a good decision and can end up just being self-destructive behavior (FO3 ending).

Companions leaving is completely different than a "good vs evil" meter. The companions all have their own viewpoints on what is right and wrong, and will react accordingly. It isn't the game trying to tell you what the right call was, it's a character reacting to your behavior realistically.

I have to agree.. that was pretty badass imo.

I assumed it was because most of them we're connected to DC and had no business being in the other side of the country. IIRC the RockIT was invented by Moira, the Railway rifle by that guy in Rivet City, the Nuka grenade used Quantum (which was DC-only). The dart gun was OP since it immediately rendered Deathclaws defenseless, and the gauntlet was redundant.


Same as me, I couldn't believe all I had to do during the damn final battle was stroll behind until we arrived at the memorial. The quotes were funny, but everything else, specially the mission itself, was boring and frustrating.


I really don't understand why this is important to some people. I mean it, I'd really like to know what's so important about playing after, seeing as the world can't respond properly to what you did. And what's so bad about doing everything you still want to do *before* the big battle. :confused:

Not really, that along with Colonel Autumn being an absolute wimp who can be killed in one shot if you decide to fight him made the Fallout 3 climix feel incredibly anti-climactic. I didn't really feel like I did anything prior to starting the Purifier.

You dont feel like you did anything prior to that, you mean like all the quest you did and talking to Eden getting the microchip thingy the purifier wont even work without. Tell me did you want to storm the purifier solo??? Do you not enjoy being part of an attacking army?

Yes I do realize the main quest was lined up to succeed with BoS only but I thought the outcome was great. A whole freaking lake is clean and pure afterwards, clean water being shipped all over the place ect. After Bos add-on the rewards were tangible.

Not really. They never really managed to make the lack of clear water seem like a real, present concern. So having one basin full of water just doesn't seem worth all the effort (or BREAKING A GECK).

Actually, I am happy to take on every single Enclave stationed at the memorial; as well as some extra work to bring down the force field.

Or stole a Vertibird and fly straight in, whatever.

Or a extensive quest to bring Liberty Prime back like other have said before.

And please, give Autumn a suit of Power Armour in the final scene.

Yeah, people keep saying they need water and all, but since they've been living like that for 200 years already, it's hard to see that as a particularly emergencial issue. Actually *using* the GECK would probably be a better alternative. In fact, if F3 had multiple paths, that would have been a great option :whistling:

As mad as I am at Bethesda over the Xbox only DLC release, I can't hate this game. I love it. I loved Fallout 3 and I love this game. I don't get the "its gotta be one or the other" crowd, myself.



My impression was not that they thought everyone would up and die without the water, but that getting an abundance of clean water would improve their lot. Make it better than how they were living for 200 years. Fewer Wastelanders would die because of the irradiated water that was killing them. The urgency over it all was thanks to the Enclave.

You can drink your self to death with radioactive water that’s not a concern, that doesn’t seem like real to you?

Oh yes, I agree. Liberty Prime rocked.

I was talking about the climix, you know, the final leg of the game that begins when you return to the Brotherhood after escaping Raven Rock?

The point is that I didn't get much of a chance to do anything during the climix. I basically just ended up following a robot that destroyed everything in its path to the Purifier wherein I killed Colonel Autumn in one shot. That's not much of a climix in my opinion, and for a possible final boss Autumn wasn't challenging... at all.

One note if you kill all four heads of the fiends you do get comments from npc's.

I actually gave my copy of FO3 away before i even got FNV because i thought FNV would be so much better than FO3, after about two weeks, i traded FNV for FO3 and am still having fun regardless of me 100 percenting it many times. I will stick with your plan and not buy another fallout game until i see many good reviews.

This doesn't compute for me. I've already spent more time questing in NV than FO3 and I haven't even hit all of the quests yet. I did all of the quests in FO3 in less time than I've already spent questing in NV. As far as them being linear...I can't even address that. Objectively the quests in NV are less linear. That doesn't make sense to me.


I don't see what this has to do with anything. I've been an RPG freak since the early '80s and I prefer NV by a pretty large margin. :shrug: The number of RPG games you've played has little to do with what types of elements you like to see focused-on in games.

That said, I've been a huge Bethesda fan since Arena was released in '94...probably a bigger Bethesda fan than a Fallout fan, in fact. They started losing me with Oblivion, though. They're very good at creating worlds with a ton of content, but I think they've lost their touch with the writing/characters/quests/background details/RPG game mechanics aspects of creating RPGs. Just my opinion. Looking forward to see what they do with TESV.


It doesn't shock me at all. Outside of nice graphics and sound and the things that come along with that RPGs have done very little to add to the genre since the '80s.

ok one yes there are more people but no wandering in wasteland. all i see people wise in wasteland are ncr troops fiends powergangers or ceasars legion. wheres the wasteland settlers. or the guy that begs for food. now everyones holded up in towns. yes good story line. but way to short. if you just stick with main quest fo1, 2, 3 all had longer main quests than this one. the main quest in nv felt more like a side quest series to me. also there still doing the forced responces on us. eather you do this or do that. no other option for some quests.. being forced to eather do this or your done moving forward is same as the fo3 main quest line. so much for player can do as he pleases they said we had. and then leaving big chuncks of the map out of game. and only offering dlc content to one type of system. can you say sellout. also one thing fo3 has over nv is the enemies. as you leveled up so did they. they got harder to kill unlike nv .where there the same no matter what level you are. yes it has some cool stuff like the ammo options modable weapons the hardcoe mode etc. but over all yes its fun game but i dont get same feeling from it as fo1 2 or 3 granted 3 was a game all of its own but it was more wasteland style than nv by alot.from radiation levels ruins to explore cooler townspeople. everytown on fo3 and the others had unique charecters in them that made them stand out megaton had sherif simms moriarty and that retired raider companion forgot his name all had more personality than any ive seen in nv except cassidy even the gouls in underworld had rasists in it nv there actions vs there speech lines dont match they just dont carry over like they did. even the dj sounds liek the guy in the clear eyes commercial and ferris beuilers day off no life no feeling in his voice 3 dog had a truck load more on him and the reason im comparing fo3 and not 1 or 2 is because fo3 uses the same combat system and graphic style so its easyer to comepare it to vs one or 2 both of witch had better story lines and side missions also faction mission i found to be to easy and small to gain worship type fame do 5 various facton missions and poof your a god to them common its not like you defused a nuclear bomb in the middle of new vegas and saved em all for the strip to like you.and a few of the mission things dont add up at all

(Some) people are giving the ending-slides WAY too much credit, all the work put in, factions, followers and quests are defused by them, it is a very lame way to end the game.
Did Obsidian not learn anything from the FO3 ending? this is just as bad, maybe even worse since you have more immersion this time around and in the end all you get are canned bits of meh.

Not to mention having to re-load old saves to do the DLC, uninspiring I say.

MAYBE because i played a lot FO1 and FO2, i give too much credits to the endling slides of FO:NV

WAIT, ending slides exists since FO1, i dont see why complain about that, and how is possible to compare a SHOOTER-RPG main quest with a Turn-Based RPG main quest???

Sooo I was gonna get this game I LOVE fall out 3....and I guess its getting old JUST A LITTLE BIT.

The first time for me, LP got stuck so I got to play with the console quite a bit to get him moving again. So, I had that extra element, but otherwise, yeah, what you said.