[Ruben Bernal]

a final fantasy with real choices and consequences would really set a standard, but alas, would be too complicated for their devs to have enough cinema for the outcomes.

Therein lies the rub right there.

It's the same reason why you don't see any intricate dialog trees in games like Dragon Age or Fallout 3 anymore, where they feel this need to have every single line spoken out, and have to make their recording-sessions as cost-effective as possible, so they make sure that very few lines lie in an obscure branch of dialog that may never be heard by the player.

This wasn't a problem in Baldur's Gate, Planescape:Torment, or even Neverwinter Nights and the like, where only the greetings or long monologues were voiced-over, with the rest of dialog being in pure text, and lots of it.

[Hussnein Amin]

I still don't get why FFXII is considered such a great game. I played it, tried to many times, I just couldn't get into it. It wasn't fun to me, at all. The story was bland. Boring. Not worth my time honestly. :shrug:
Now, FFIX, and FFX, those are amazing games. Nine is my second favorite RPG of all time. That game is just epic.

[cosmo valerga]

That was just from a couple of complaints that I've seen made when the other thread started up

But in terms of good storytelling you don't need to have a hand in the storyline (and many WRPG's don't give you this option anyway. Oblivion did not let you become a bad guy, nor did FO3 let you be part of the Enclave, and in Mass Effect you weren't able to join in on Sovreign's side)

So I really don't know what people are talking about when they are talking about choice and consequences

You should try Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne.

[Darren Chandler]

Ok the first and only Final Fantasy game I have played is Final Fantasy Legend. Is there any good and most likely cheap ones I should try out? I have a ps2 if you must know and snes.

[Blaine]

Ok the first and only Final Fantasy game I have played is Final Fantasy Legend. Is there any good and most likely cheap ones I should try out? I have a ps2 if you must know and snes.

FF3 for the SNES I recently bought it for around $20 off of ebay.

[Stephy Beck]

FF3 for the SNES I recently bought it for around $20 off of ebay.

Hm I isn't about 80% of the games for the playstation alone?

[Felix Walde]

Hm I isn't about 80% of the games for the playstation alone?

WAT

[Sudah mati ini Keparat]

WAT

I meant a good amount of Final Fantasy are for playstation consoles . Is that true? IDK

[Lyndsey Bird]

I meant a good amount of Final Fantasy are for playstation consoles . Is that true? IDK

Well ya...

Final Fantasy Chronicles
Final Fantasy Anthology
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics


FVII Might still be a little expensive

[Julie Ann]

I meant a good amount of Final Fantasy are for playstation consoles . Is that true? IDK

FFVII-IX are on PS1

FFIV was re-released for PS1 along with Anthology which contained FFV and FFVI

FFX-XII are on PS2

FFI and FFII have been released for PSP

FVII Might still be a little expensive

Just a little

good luck in finding a copy of FF7 for less than ?150, or about $250-ish. All the others aren't as expensive, but still stupidly expensive.

:lmao:

[Nathan Barker]

FFVII-IX are on PS1

FFIV was re-released for PS1 along with Anthology which contained FFV and FFVI

FFX-XII are on PS2

FFI and FFII have been released for PSP



Just a little



:lmao:

:shrug: I see them go for $40 on ebay $50~70 local

[Andy durkan]

it's a valid point as games are evolving. as newer games pull off better things, games which just stick to their same plan start to feel dated and stale, burrowing into a niche rather than setting a standard. same with the main quests/stories/plot. if you're sticking to the same formula, don't expect it to wow people the next time around.

i'm still waiting for a final fantasy that pushes the envelope where the player can influence the story arc, taking the reins rather than just being along for the ride. a final fantasy with real choices and consequences would really set a standard, but alas, would be too complicated for their devs to have enough cinema for the outcomes.

That was never a staple of final fantasy to begin with. you're looking at this from a completely western perspective when in truth final fantasy, dragon quest, and probably SMT are probably the three rpgs in the japanese market that are constantly pushing the envelop with rpgs. So no I still disagree that having open worlds and dialogue trees aren't a necessity in a final fantasy game since that's what it was never about to begin with. Cinematics and story telling along with a newer improve battle system has always been what the series has been about.

[Kim Bradley]

:shrug: I see them go for $40 on ebay $50~70 local

Or you could just buy it off the PSN for the PS3 or PSP, if you have either of those. That's how I played FF7. I really enjoyed it too, but I have no idea why.

[Nienna garcia]

That was never a staple of final fantasy to begin with. you're looking at this from a completely western perspective when in truth final fantasy, dragon quest, and probably SMT are probably the three rpgs in the japanese market that are constantly pushing the envelop with rpgs. So no I still disagree that having open worlds and dialogue trees aren't a necessity in a final fantasy game since that's what it was never about to begin with. Cinematics and story telling along with a newer improve battle system has always been what the series has been about.

which just confirms what i said, it's nothing new to westerners, and is now instead becoming a niche. niche games don't get great reviews. final fantasy, in the west, is fast becoming like a ton of full motion video games that were common on computers in the early-mid 90's, they had their niche too.

then again, why would the final fantasy team even care what westerners say or think about the game? their prime audience is japan to begin with.

[Michael Korkia]

Well I started playing FFIX again

I'm at

Spoiler

Burmecia about to fight Beatrix (for the third time)

I keep having to fight her because she keeps ending the damn battle before I rob her blind

Even with bandit equipped she just doesn't want to give up that damn mythril sword

Spoiler

Once I'm done with that I'm gonna make some coral rings in Treno and I'm gonna take Quina (who has mustard bomb) and go kill me some level 60 grand dragons

Then when I get to Clerya I'll beat the crap out of anything cause I'll be about level 50 or so

[Rebecca Clare Smith]

So I've decided to hopefully finish a playthrough of FFXII for once, since I've never gotten around to it. I did the little werewolf trick, so I'm about level 30 on the Leviathan and my whole party is using katanas, but eventually I'm going to need to shake things up. What do you guys usually use for a party? I plan on using Basch, Balthier, and Ashe but I have no idea how I'm going to set them up.

[GLOW...]

http://www.gamerevolution.com/preview/xbox360/final-fantasy-xiii

Final Fantasay XIII preview.

[Tha King o Geekz]

Final Fantasy 2 is best...i wipe my hands clean.

[Tammie Flint]

I bought Final Fantasy for my iPod and it's pretty fun just want to know if you guys have played it for the iPod.

[GPMG]

tried final fantasy VIII on my auntys ps1 when i was a wee lad. Didn't like it. All that magic drawing from creatures or the busy work getting magic from the cards. And oh god the cards. Damn that queen of cards 13,000 gil to change the rules of the card game so i know how to play it. I gave up when i got to the train heist with the president.

Is final fantasy still like that? drawing the magic, the queen of cards. I was looking into the new one.

[Charles Mckinna]

tried final fantasy VIII on my auntys ps1 when i was a wee lad. Didn't like it. All that magic drawing from creatures or the busy work getting magic from the cards. And oh god the cards. Damn that queen of cards 13,000 gil to change the rules of the card game so i know how to play it. I gave up when i got to the train heist with the president.

Is final fantasy still like that? drawing the magic, the queen of cards. I was looking into the new one.

Final Fantasy 8 is actually the only one that you have to do that with. 7 has the materia system (my favorite), 9 has a pretty good system where you learn things from your equipment, 10 I don't know anything about, and 12 has a good system too, albeit with too much customization for my tastes.

I bought Final Fantasy for my iPod and it's pretty fun just want to know if you guys have played it for the iPod.

I don't have an iPod or an iPhone, so I haven't. Plus I already have the Dawn of Souls remake for my GBA. If I were to get another remake it'd be the PSP one anyways, because it just looks soooo good.

[Nims]

Ill say one thing though, i did like the limit breaks. Plus that demon thing the guy gives you in a lamp gives you that no encounter ability that made the game a lot easier.

[Sandeep Khatkar]

Plus that demon thing the guy gives you in a lamp gives you that no encounter ability that made the game a lot easier.

No encounter is really counter-intuitive in most of the series. You're better off fighting everything and leveling up and such. But yeah, Diablo is awesome. Although VIII scales to the player so fighting every battle isn't really as important unless you want to draw from everything.

[butterfly]

Ill say one thing though, i did like the limit breaks. Plus that demon thing the guy gives you in a lamp gives you that no encounter ability that made the game a lot easier.

Well every game from 7 on has limit breaks of some sort, but they never work quite the same way. Actually even 6 has limit breaks, but they almost never happen.

[Matt Bee]

So, I preordered FFXIII and am going to the midnight release Monday night. Anyone else gonna be there?