You guys say that it is a rip-off, but vsions the developer that made the VL said that he had just watched Underworld Evolution when he thought up the idea of the VL. So yes he did use Marcus as a template for the VL.

I think you just won the award for the most pointless, unhelpful, and utterly useless comment I've ever seen on this forum in my 2 years as a member.

That was rather rude, This is a pointless thread, you dont even know details about this "vampire" lord and your pointlessly bashing it.

Speaking of the form, is it forced third person or will this form have first person view..?

I'm certainly not? i'm against vampires, why would you think i am one?

That's just it. My playstyle does not fit the whole transformation thing. Like the werewolf, I couldn't get cured fast enough. I knew this from the Game Jam and then viewing the E3 vids of the VL in Riverwood. That is just not my thing.

I have been fortunate enough to experience this first hand, for almost two weeks. I know that some people will really enjoy the new VL form and that is great. But others like myself, will be very content with the Vanilla version.

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Allow me to quote Vsions, art designer for Skyrim and one of the people who designed tue vampire lords:

"Vampire Lord, like many other existing vampire media was inspired by previous gampire media. I think once you get to see it more clearly though you will see that we did put our own spin on it. I can understand some of you wanting something very different but is it any different than the fact that our regular vampires have the same look as existing vampire from existing vampire from popular media? (vampire eyes/vampire fangs/bloodsvckers) how is that really any different? That being said, I do not think you guys are wrong in wanting something totally different looking but we felt this direction was a good fit for what most people would like. Fear not though guys and gals, they have some really cool powers and if your still not convinced, you can always kill those dirty bloodsvckers "

For all we know these vampire lords will have unique lore and be executed well. Thats what's important. You can trace any idea back and "prove" it's a copy of something else. Tolkien's work was based on folklore, and folklore was based off of misinterpretations of real things. You can trace it all back. It just bothers me when someone takes such a small amount of info, plasters a "copied" stamp on it and calls it a day.

I made a point that the vampire lord looks like Marcus. I said nothing about details, merely that visually, they look the same. And it's not pointless to be disappointed by a lack of originality. I find it more rude that he had the audacity to make a comment like "a vampire is a vampire". Next he'll tell us that bread is bread, and cats are cats, and that bethesda is bethesda.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCiFr4KQQyg
3:24, This is NOT a rip off of Marcus!!!

I'm dead serious. I've watched all E3 footage and was able to form a good opinion based on what I've seen.

Next time, edit your previous post, mate. Double posting is not the way to go.


A good point. Vampires and werewolves are not for everyone. I for one have always enjoyed lycanthropy in the elder scrolls games. Perhaps it will grow on you.

NOO im the Vampire LORD!

Please read before posting.

Yes i can agree it DOES look like Marcus, i'm just saying try the Vamp lord out before being "Disappointed"

Why thank you, I try.

Bethesda put a lot of time and effort into making it look nice and its powers so its just like what they did with the werewolf transformation its just you can go in and out of VL form at will from what I read.

I mean the constant swirling of bats and shriveled up hands with long fingernails in first person would get annoying in my opinion

One last thing I will say here. You don't have to transform if you don't want to. It's all up to you just like Werewolf form you don't have to actually transform if you don't want to it's completely up to you.

Not true. Cyrodiilic vampires also feed on people that are awake using seductive powers. Seridur fed on a woman in an alley by hypnotizing her using "vampire's seduction." They just prefer to feed on sleeping people, but they aren't forced to.

Yeah I didn't mean to defend Bethesda or to say the movie svcks, just after Bethesda release the first video of the Vamp lord, someone came up on the forums with this exactly pic you linked and another one from the Van Helsing dracula and also one from the Bran Stoker dracula... they are very alike, bat wings, teeth and grey form... endeed at that point and now, I agree the Underworld model is the closest to our Vamp Lord from dawnguard, but it would end up close to any of those that tried to represent the bestial vampire in modern movie pictures. Personally the whole vamp lord displeases me, Id rather elaborate the Volkihar lore around the human vampires rather than the bestial but it fits well with the already available Werewolf form along with the new perk tree concept is really promising.

Also Babette feed on a pedo while he was awake and screaming.

There are multiple kinds of ugly. It is clear that Bethesda looked at underworld (and other modern vampire morphs) for ''inspiration''. I'd have much rather have them come up with their own kind of ugly vampire creature. Just like they came up with a whole bunch of weird creatures in Morrowind.

I understand that they have taken a whole lot more from other fantasy material. But regular vampires, trolls, goblins, etc they are established fantasy creatures. Taking something that looks so similar to underworld's vampire lord just seems cheap. I don't think I'll be playing as a vampirelord for that very reason. Unfortunatly all the new vampire powers seem to be only available in this new standalone form.

I guess I neither like the look nor execution of this new feature.

I'm not defending this model of the vampire lord, but you do know that if Bethesda had chosen something original and different there would be a twin of this thread complaining that vampires look nothing like how people imagined and how Bethesda should have looked at fictional vampire characters in media for inspiration.

Moral of the story; Someone will always complain.

Lol so true.

Babette from what I can gather is a Volkihar..so....and when did I say they are forced to feed on sleeping people?

I merely said lore wise they are the only vampires that openly want too feed on sleeping people, didn't say they were forced too.

Dracula in Bramstokers dracula has the same form...so underworld, van helsing an beth are unoriginal... or you could argue that particular form goes back even further... and as a wise man once said...there is no more original thought...