Why can't werewolfs sneak and do stealth kills ?

That would make sense if the werewolves in this game were sleak and slender like a ninja, but to me they are more like the hulk.

I think they're more like the Hulk because they can't sneak, not the other way around.

Hircine says it is a nono. Werewolves are very dangerous because their natural instincts tell them to hunt and devour people. Not animals.

Bloodmoons Werewolves, while being as hulking as Skyrim ones, could sneak like a "baws"(having sneak skill raised to 95) and jump like a monkeys(having the Acrobatics skill also boosted)...Also remember that Sabre Cats, being noticeable in size can sneak effectively(by keeping the low profile)

Well it would be cool to be actually able to sneak to our prey and kill it silently rather than jump right into a bunch of bandits and get killed.

Just imagaine the animation... crawling... body close to the ground... and then... SNAP!

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It seems that the Perk you're refuring to stack to the amount that was already given. Not only that, but that perk gives double the amount of health than what the perk for the Vampire Lord does.

In my point of view, the Lycanthropy Perk Tree makes Werewolves just as powerful as Vampire Lords. The only issue that I see is that the Vampire Lords get the ability to transform into Vampire Lords at will and can remain in the Vampire Lord state for aslong as they want, where-as the Werewolves are timed, and can only stay in that form by feeding.

But in a way, that's how Vampires and Werewolves always have been. If you see any old movie with Vampires and Werewolves, or even Van Helsing (the newest one, with Hugh Jackman), the Vampires stay in their Vampire Lord form, where-as the Werewolves can only transform in direct Moonlight.
So all in all, it makes sense.

They are called Lycans in the game. The word lycan also goes way way back in history.

That's what I'm saying. I don't think they're like the Hulk in their very nature. It's because they can't sneak that they'd come across Hulk like. I have argued for Werewolf sneaking for a while now.

Hm...And did you see any daywalking vampire? Dhampires, Alucard, Blade's Dracula don't count:d

Oh, I never became a werewolf in morrowind. Maybe we should get to sneak then.

No, I admit defeat on that one, although, that's where the beauty of the Lore comes into play.

I think its to early to make the call seeing as how they havent come out with the add on yet....

I'm not going to get into this whole werewolf vs vampire thing, but I did want to say that the Ice Brothers perk might be the ability to summon ice wolves, as it is on the same line as summoning ally werewolves. just a thought..

Lycanthropes have never been able to feed on animals as a gameplay mechanic in TES series. In TES II: Daggerfall, as a Werewolf/Wereboar, you would automatically transform and had to kill a humanoid once or twice every month, otherwise you'd begin to lose max health, all the way down to a crippling 4 max health. Hircine's Ring prevented this. In TES III: Morrowind (Bloodmoon), you had to kill a humanoid once every night, or once again, you'd take health damage. In TES V: Skyrim, in order to maintain your Beast Form, you have to feed on a humanoid corpse. The very curse of Lycanthropy, is that you are compelled and must feast on a sentient race in order to satisfy your hunger and remain healthy. It simply wouldn't be the same if you could feed on animals to bypass it.

Having a huge healthpool really doesn't make up for the lack of damage mitigation, just ask anyone who's played as a Tank or Healer in an MMORPG. A tank with high damage reduction, is almost always better than a high health tank, since the high health tank will actually require more healing than the damage mitigation tank. I'm not asking for Armor Cap in Werewolf Form (I've seen how ridiculous that is with Resto glitched Fortify Alteration potions with Dragonhide up right before transform), i'm just asking for like 30-40% damage mitigation in Beast Form.


I've seen the Mammoths in my game pivot pretty fast, which when combined with that wide radius head swing they do when i try to strafe around them, it hits me pretty often and hard in Beast Form. What irks me, is that my Lvl 68 Nord Warrior with 550 Health/320 Stamina/100 Magicka with this build http://skyrimcalculator.com/#133474 can take on Ancient Dragons quite easily (Which is why i downloaded the Deadly Dragons mod), but when i go in Beast Form against them, i practically get 1 shotted. But i gotta admit, my Nord is an absolute tank in Human form. Armor Capped, 70% Resist Magic/80% Resist Frost/30% Resist Fire/30% Resist Shock, plus i mostly use Mace of Molag Bal (Legendary, 108 damage) along with Spellbreaker (Legendary).


The Totem of Fear Howl and the Totem of the Hunt Howl don't have cooldowns, but the Totem of Brotherhood Howl does. Which the Totem of Ice Brothers and the Totem of the Moon looks to be upgrades to the Totem of Brotherhood.

If that proves to be true in the end,it would be pretty lame and cheap since we already have a simular totem

Ice wolves are pretty powerful though... idk about gargoyles, but I'd imagine similar toughness perhaps

Vsions,about the Night Cloak thing?..lol...maybe a little hint on how its going to work?

It would be awesome for people like me whose game broke because they married Aela...

I'm fully aware of the resistance werewolves are spose to have, and it does bug me a little bit that they are not present in this elder scrolls.But hopefully the new tree will counter the effect that weapons have on a werewolf now. What I meant was that it makes sense that a werewolf has no armor rating because they are technically naked in that form.

What I'd be asking is if you can cast this new totem with the original one for double the wolves, and if so you should be able to cast a familiar spell on top of that for an estimated total wolf pack of 6ish, 7 if you count yourself.

Since when has Beth ever balanced their games?

Yes, you are technically naked, but being one shotted by an arrow doesn't sound like something that would happen to a werewolf.

I'm not going to lie these sound like really good ideas

Well to be fair it's more like 3-4 arrows but I fully agree with the point your making, they should be a tank, but weak to silver and magical weapons/magic itself.