Vampire Lords are OP in my opinion.

1. They have numerous powers that can be used at the same time(Werewolves has only 1 of 3)
2.PC can change into VL at any time and any duration and can transform back at any time(Werewolves have set limit)
3.They have different means of transport(by foot/wings/levitate)
4.They do take 0 or next to nothing sun damage.

Balancing suggestions(Vampire Lords/Regular Vampires- if the rumours are true)

1.They would be balanced as taking moderate sun damage.(explained by being "a very dark and pure" type of vampire)
2.Their powers should depend on their lifeforce(like magicka but it shouldn't regenerate by itself but by "draining enemies")
3.Silver and DG weapons should inflict more damage against werecreatures, daedroth and undeads(vampires included).
4.Vigilants of Stendarr should be equipped in Silver weapons(Silver Mace e.g) and wield a shield(Amulet of Stendarr-connection)(here will be a link to my future topic about VoS presence in DG, basically in the trailer there's a guy with the amulat of Stendarr and vigilant-type Steel boots)
5.Silver weapons should be enchanced(more weapon types, bigger bonus towards the undead, daedroth and werebeasts, added to random drop and NPC weapon lists etc.)

Balancing sugestions(Werebeasts) Page 3rd have 2 posts from vsions about Werewolves:D Thank you vsions, you're always helpful:d

ATTENTION! (I AM AWARE of the Lycanthropy Perk Tree, Some of my W-w suggestions are probably already in-game, by being a Perks(Savage Feeding - probably feeding on animal corpses or as a Feeding-Killlmove)

1.More Howl/Roar choices(like having 3 totem powers at once(1 is almost or the same(?) as a basic Fear Roar) [probably introduced into game mechanics by perks)]
2.Feeding not only on humans but also on i.e animals [probably an existing perk "Savage Feeding" - it could also mean "feeding killcam"]
3.Controlled "retransformations"(100 lvl perk or Hircine's Ring power)(to counter VL's willingly ones)
4.FIX WEREWOLF ARMOR RATING BUG!!!!xD
5. Silver weapons should be enchanced[ see: vampires balancing, points 3, 4, 5]
6. More Silver Hand Guys(I don't remember if their brotherhood is destroyed, if so some remnants should exist)
7. More combat shouts would be greeted(not only a Detect Life, Terror, Summon Wolves, Summon Werewolf) )
8. More buff to "unchanged form"(reflecting their "blessing") - 100 or so more carry weight, running, sprinting boost like 1.1/1.2 normal speed etc.

ALSO!!!!!!! A GAMEWORLD IMPROVEMENT
Add savage werecreatures in the wilderness!!!, wereboars(it would need a separate boar model) and WEREBEARS!!!!!

(with Wereboar, werebear being a were-choices(by contracting a disease))


Also post Your opinions, the Venerable Ones!

Lycans get a new perk tree already

Well throwing everyone around up in the sky does look kinda OP ...

I know but: it's probably only extending the current basis, giving no counter-werebeasts enemies/weapons

BTW: Please, don't call them per "Lycans"...They're not Underworld sissies.

I completly agree with you. The warewolves need some buff to tie them to their vamparic cousins.
1) we saw a warebear tranforemation in the bash. But weather that will be there is still unsertain. The warewolvs need something to be able to sneek(a crouching wolf in the tall grass). They also need some mager powerups in there human form to tie with the vampire powers(greater stranghth, stamina, and unique spells just for them).

Werewolves are getting a perk tree .

Since yu did not see the movie i will enlighten you
A: Lycan is short for Lycanthropy and i can call them Chiuauauhs if i want
B: Underworlds Wolves are tougher than TES's so watch your mouth
C: The tree makes the LYCANS 3x as strong while adding special LYCAN abilities like summoning anther LYCAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUqdm-Pzxo4

D : LYCANS are comparable to a regular S4 Vamp, but a Vamp Lord is worth 10 LYCANS

I'd say no new spells but rather new Roars or Howls. And some pros(being faster, stronger, having more accute senses would be deffinitely lore-wise)

Well with ring of hircine you can do as many transformations as you like?

Perhaps argue about how one is better than the other when it comes out, rather than looking at videos of specific moments, moments which are obviously going to be showing the Vampires in the best possible light as Beth is trying to SELL them to you, after all. And say one is more powerful than the other; so what? There's no multiplayer, one is always going to be better unless EVERYTHING in Skyrim has to be completely equal, and that would be very bland.

I would even argue that the Lords should be stronger from a lore perspective as well. It really doesn't matter!

I was just lore-enlightening you....So yhey caneither be Lycans or Sissies..I'd prefer sissies:d
Underworld movies are meh. And I remind you to be nice to other forum members.
and I'm just assuming that they will get 1 roar at time(current mechanics)...We don't know if'll have all roars at the time.

and can you "retransform" at will?

Watch the video i posted

We already know that the vampires and Vamp Lords will have a Massive Buff( like NPCs being not hostile towards 4th Stage Vampires(hopefuly it won't happen)

@Drake
I watched all DG videos live and read some articles(Eurogamer, Gameinformer)
I know that it exists and gives W-wolves a Buff. But they will be still UP versus Vampire Lord.

nope, but you cant (well i dont actually know) do that with vamp lords either

Werewolves get unlimited transformations via Ring of Hircine, they get an aoe fear that can be spammed, and they're getting a perk tree now. They also can move much much faster than Vampire Lords can. (Sprinting as a werewolf makes you faster than horses.)

B.Guys and GameInformer(probably) said you can.:/

werewolves should be faster (much faster), stronger (they are beasts, not house pets), have more health (you will not be killing a werewolf with one arrow), have damage resistance (no 1 shot arrows!) and be weak to silver

To be fair though, it is possible that the sun does burn you, and that mana doesn't regenerate: it was a demo, and it would be embarrassing to die while displaying such; it'd also be boring to wait for mana to regenerate.

As for why they'd do it during the day, the NPCs are out, and it's also easier to see what's going on.

I wouldn't assume that it's completely OP yet.

How was he not nice?! The 'watch your mouth' comment was clearly light-hearted about you disrespecting underworld werewolves.
Made me laugh, actually!

I am a rude boy. I surrender. I would reflect the ball at you but as am I saying now: I'm sorry for my behaviour. Calling them Sissies were a bit too much for a humouristic talk and you, Drake, certainly was nice towards me. As for you, my Orc fellow, you opened my eyes. I'm glad I've made you laugh!

I...honestly cannot tell if you are being sarcastic

I'm honestly sorry:D I just cannot stop being sarcastic:D

Was that a contradiction?

Some emoticons should help me determine your attitiude. And yes, I am sorry. In my mothertongue "watch your mouth" is a quarrel-trigger. I just overinterpreted your words.

Edit: We are being a BIT offtop so...