The dwemer would be more likey to create a pressure based weapon. They had the mechanics already.

I was excited at first, then I decided, honestly, I'd rather have something a bit more flexible, like spears.

Other than RPing, I see no advantage of using one.

The Bow can one shot easily. The Crossbow may be able to do that more so outside of sneak. Other than that, it's like being a Werewolf...do it if you want. I am not opposed to having them in the game. I will support choice and option, no matter if I care for the subject or not.

Think of the disadvantage as well. NPCs would be more deadly then your standard archer.

I dont see this as a bad thing really, unless your one of those DiD players, but making the game more challenging wouldnt be to bad, ofcourse you can always adjust the difficulty

You know spear, stabby stabby, swoshy swooshy, like... big spear.

And i did not say that the crossbow was a gun, it's like one in the sense that... i don't realy know, it would be some what cheap... I really have no idea what i was talking about lol... but yes guns should stay far away.

the whole idea of crossbows was to cheaply replace otherwise expensive missile troops. bows require skill to effectively use, crossbows do not

I will be using the crossbow on my mage, I've never played a bow character, but occasionally I need a ranged weapon or a melee weapon so I can use poisons to compliment my spells. I only do that once each time I go into combat usually, which means a crossbow will be perfect!

i dont get why someone wouldnt want it in the game, its not like they would take your bow away and say you have to use this, more options are always better

Why don't you just use Bound Bow?

I think lance's would make a better weapon. Like in Monster Hunter.

i dont think a lance works without mounted combat

dismounted a lance is just a bulky spear

More variety.
Variety never hurts.

Good point.


Ha! You speak of them like they are an outcast or something.

Yes, I am one of those and no, I see no need for a DIDer to be fearful of a new weapon. It just calls for more strategy, an actually it's not any different from the way most play the game now.

Did you ever think that maybe people like it because it's a better game?

It is much more satisfying to aim high with a bow and get a shot from far away then to aim right at your enemy with a crossbow. You just feel like you earned your kill

Because then I have to summon it first? I don't know, usually I just have a dagger in my inventory, and then when I need a poison I hotkey equip the dagger and hotkey apply the poison. It's pretty fast, and then hit. If I was gonna' use a bound bow then I'd have to cast the spell, wait for the animation to finish, hotkey apply the poison, draw the bow and then hit.. It's just slower.

If I had a crossbow in my inventory already loaded I could just hotkey equip the crossbow, hotkey apply the poison and then instantly fire. Win!

If they implement it correctly then it is not basically the same as a bow at all.

A crossbow is trigger fired, and can be used with 1 hand depending on size, and can be sitting around loaded and ready to use. The first shot and the initiative is where the crossbow has the advantage. A warrior class would love a crossbow to quick fire a shot off before they charge- (or any melee class could utilize a crossbow for a quick-shot here and there)

If they implemented them correctly, I suspect many classes would be better served with a crossbow, and bow users would become a more dedicated set of individuals. (professionally perked archer characters utilizing bows, other classes better served with crossbows)

Oh no not at all, I love reading the DiD thread, hearing all the stories of your characters and some of how the fell in battle. I would play like that but im to attached to Bilal. sorry if i offended anyone it wasnt my goal

I'm a stealth/warrior and use my bow just fine. But I can see why others would like it.

I wont use it but i might give it to my companion

Right, yes you can use a bow just fine, but imagine if your first shot didn't include a drawtime, if it was just instant? A warrior that usually charges in could have a loaded crossbow also, and just quickly click off a shot and then run in.

If they put it back in just like morrowind, then it will just be an aesthetic change, and I personally won't care or be impressed. (since morrowinds crossbows acted like bows, but just had no damage variations, and skyrim doesn't have damage variations anyway)

In some games I carried 2 light crossbows. 2 instant shots, that was fun. After the battle clears you reload and get ready for next time.

No, man, he has a point. When TES:VI comes out with no axes, maces or war hammers it will only be the Skyrim hipsters who want them back because they want to look smart. Because there's no way any reasonable person could want variety.

But really, crossbows would be great if they implemented them well. For them to be useful, you'd need to make them different enough from bows somehow.

In history, crossbows had a slower rate of fire, but their advantage was they could be used by militia troops with little training, whereas it took years to become proficient with a longbow.

There's no such thing as training with a weapon in Skyrim (not in the sense I mean, anyway), but I guess crossbows could be modelled with a much slower reload than bows, but the advantage would be a quick initial shot, perhaps with a little more 'punch'.

There is, or has been, some debate over whether longbows or crossbows were more effective at punching through armor. Either way, it would be cool to see crossbows with a little of armor bypass - sort of like the mechanic that's supposed to work for maces & hammers if you get the perks.

Just ignore eric, it is best.

No offence at all. I did not mean it to have sounded that harsh.

That strong attachment is what really adds to the emotion and excitement. Having an added weapon and threat just makes it that much more exciting.