If Bethesda said hey lets only put on race in the game, let them play as only Nords. HAHA the hardware serving this forum would have gone up in smoke. There are different races in the story and the story world. So if you could only be a Nord then you'd say "Hey, why would I want to be a Mage, a nord should be a warrior. Why is Mage a possible way to play".

Haven't read most of this topic, but coming from a Game Designer's point of view, it would make more sense that a race that is known for its magical ability would be better at being a mage. However, i also think that other, less magical races (such as Orcs, etc) should still be able to become as proficient a mage as, say, a Breton, BUT only after some hard work.

It also makes sense that a 'warrior' race, such as Redguards or Orcs would do more damage with melee as they are naturally stronger and better at fighting, but they should also be able to harness magicka better after training - but training a lot more than a Breton or High Elf would have to do.


As for the story, yes, a Khajiit shouldn't be able to join the Stormcloaks unless he can prove that he can be useful to the Stormcloaks. If a Khajiit can help defeat the Legion and help the Stormcloaks, i think they could make an exception to his race. A Nord wanting to join would probably be accepted straight away, or have a more easy time convincing them of his worth.



As it is, its not something that bothers me entirely. Once the CK comes out, i will be able to see what can be changed, but until then, its something i can live with. Although i agree Beth could have done more work on it, instead of treating all races the same after the start of the game. I can see why they did it (so that a person can play how he wants as the race he wants) but there should be some negative effects to choosing a race.

But end game power represents the time, effort, and practice you put into perfecting your craft, so yes, an Orc should be just as powerful a mage as a High Elf if the Orc put forth the same time, effort, and practice into perfecting his arcane talents.

That is exactly how it should work.

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Very much agree. Especially as a game design student.

Your Character still looks different then others. The game should hold your hand all the time.

Perks and Attributes would have been very nice.

Play an Orc, start with additional health and defense (armor). Pump some extra points into health and defense. Suit up in your Heavy Armor then add the perks that give a % boost to the Armor you have. My Armor rating just sky rocketed. While you could do the same for a Wood Elf it won't be, or shouldn't be, nearly as high as an Orc's.

I'd like to see something between Option A (vanilla Skyrim) and Option B (your Skyrim). It doesn't feel right that people are locked out of being amazing X, Y or Z simply because of race. It doesn't work that way IRL, either.

Right, I have said that I do not want to see 'X race can't be X job class,' because that is what is actually limiting.

Perks and Attributes would have been very nice.

Play an Orc, start with additional health and defense (armor). Pump some extra points into health and defense. Suit up in your Heavy Armor then add the perks that give a % boost to the Armor you have. My Armor rating just sky rocketed. While you could do the same for a Wood Elf it won't be, or shouldn't be, nearly as high as an Orc's.

A few racial traits are negligible. Night Eye and Claws for Kats hardly make an impression on the game. Underwater Breathing is also fairly negligible.

Looking different, seriously? This is supposed to be an RPG, not dress up time. If all races are not meaninfully different, they are basically nothing but eyecandy. Eyecandy for the extremely rare times I'm in third person view.

No it shouldn't.

But you're more than welcome to go back to playing D&D, while not ruining my TES with horrible ideas.

You're not answering my concern.

Golf is a sport of white origin, played by mostly white people. Out of nowhere appears Woods and makes all of his competition appear relatively incompetent.

When you say:



You're saying that the equivalent of a Woods should not be allowed to exist in TES. I'm saying: That's not a fun way to play, and it's not realistic, either.



Bethesda could have done some really interesting things with the beast traits. You're right: it goes nowhere.

Go cry to Bethesda ^^ Or change it yourself. You saw the trailer, you had the chance to read reviews before buying the game. And i think Beth doesn't care for people who are just complaining that the races have no extra Questline. The races were ALWAYS eyecandy! They had no Questline in Oblivion, they had no Questline in Morrowind!

Go cry to Bethesda ^^ Or change it yourself. You saw the trailer, you had the chance to read reviews before buying the game. And i think Beth doesn't care for people who are just complaining that the races have no extra Questline. The races were ALWAYS eyecandy! They had no Questline in Oblivion, they had no Questline in Morrowind!

If there's supposed to be any "flavor" there, then they need to fire their cook.

So... because it wasn't around in the past means it should never be considered for the future.

Makes sense.

That can be done in an open world environment such as TES.

Go cry to Bethesda ^^ Or change it yourself. You saw the trailer, you had the chance to read reviews before buying the game. And i think Beth doesn't care for people who are just complaining that the races have no extra Questline. The races were ALWAYS eyecandy! They had no Questline in Oblivion, they had no Questline in Morrowind!

As for the story, yes, a Khajiit shouldn't be able to join the Stormcloaks unless he can prove that he can be useful to the Stormcloaks.

So, you would prefer it if your Khajiit wasn't allowed into any of the cities? Or if the Stormcloaks tried to kill your Imperial on sight? That would make performing half the quests impossible.

Why change what works?

Why change what works? Because what works can be made better perhaps?

@Daroska
As Khajiit you also get a lot of notice from the other people.