I like thegame for what it is, and I have high hopes for the DLCs. However, discussing how the game could be better doesn't always mean it is bad.

After giving me around 1000 hours of gaming enjoyment, I`m plenty happy with how Skyrim turned out. I`m sure the excellent Mods for it will take it to even loftier heights.

I like skyrim, of course it could be better but that can be said about almost anything.
There's always mods when things get a bit old...

I like Skyrim. But I love the modded versoins of the Bethesda games. This is the spice of the games. Skyrim is nicely made, but it will be larger and better with every month of Modding. I never stopped playing oblivion because of the Mods and I think this will happen with Skyrim.

I enojy the game as it is right now.

And off course their are some thing i would like to have seen in the game (spears) but they are minor thing, not like those who handicap themselves trying to get more fun out of this game (for them). They are just denying that they dont like this game in my oppinion (wether wrong or false)

Me! I even like its bugs.

Innovation and evolution are one thing. Removing or changing a game play mechanic that probably didn't need to be changed or removed is another. Makes me shake my head when even simple things like removing merchants who recharge your enchanted items happens because it didn't have to.

honestly i was expecting something more...but who cares? i'm enjoying it very much

no kidding!

people that will defend skyrim despite its obvious flaws is ridiculous.

unabashed apologists.

I love the game
I love all elder scrolls games. And what other people say doesnt matter to me,I mean if someone else say the game is bad i will never think its bad too just becouse people say its bad.. That would be pretty stupid

that's it exactly, for me.

and, it's why those who get mad when people like me complain about skyrim's obvious faults and resort to the silly arguments, like, "rose-colored glasses" and "elitists" lose the point.

actually, gamesas pretty much gutted everything in skyrim. the 'old' mechanics are gone. criticism vs constructive criticism? give me a break. irrelevant.

a lot of the "constant" complaints stems from the fact that so many won't admit to the stated complaints and resort to the tired and invalid arguments.

I've learned to try to look at games for what they're, not what they're not. I've played both Morrowind and Skyrim off and on (Can't get into Oblivion despite it being my first TES game, I feel like it controls terrible, the world is oversaturated, and everything is made out of plastic) and I enjoy both. I can do some things in Morrowind that I can't do in Skyrim and when I feel like doing those things I play Morrowind, the same is true for Skyrim.

I enjoy it very much. All in all, my approach to every game is to take it for what it is. I never bother comparing one game to another, whether it's in the same series or not.

I also tend to think that the complainers are a loud minority who have nothing better to do with themselves.

I enjoy it as an action adventure and don't as an rpg.

I love the game, but it wasn't very surprising to me, or had any choices/consequences.

Only real well written moment was your first dialogue with paarthurnax. And even that was only well written for him.

"Uhhh. . . dragons like mountains?" My character is smarter than that.

Still, I get what you mean. I don't dislike or hate the game at all. I never really expected stellar writing.

I do very much like the game. Especially aesthetic wise. Bethesda always delivers on that front. They have some of the best concept artists.

I love the game, even though nothing is perfect.

One thing is for sure: if I hated it and didn't play it at all, I wouldn't be spending time on this forum. It's one thing to play the game and suggest improvements or point out flaws; it's another to not play it and spend time demolishing it for... whatever reason.

I don't like knitting. I don't spend my Saturday [censored]ing on a knitting site about their technique, the wool they're using, and the combinations of colours they should be doing. I do something else and let people who like knitting enjoy their site and share ideas.

i tend to think the apologists are a soft majority that will ignore their game's obvious weaknesses and feel threatened when it's criticized.

This ...

... and while I've given constructive criticism in many other threads in the forums, it's important to point out the many things that Skyrim excels over other games (that I've noticed rarely come up in the forums):

1. There are very few people complaining about the EXPANSIVE gameplay area that is the trademark of an Elder Scrolls game.

2. Not many are complaining about the improvements to character generation features (most notably facial features).

3. For PC players like me, everyone seems to love the limitless modding possibilities that has been the feature of prior ES games.

Hi Backstaber. How's your day so far?

I think it's easy to be grateful about Skyrim, as It has lots of things going for it. Why would that prevent anyone from paying due notice of this or that flaw and make some suggestions? It seems to me the devs themselves do not adopt this mentality, as can be seen from the Game Jam. It seems to me they didn't spend that week patting each other on the back, but tried to make the game better, in a way that at times appears to be a direct reaction to feedback and suggestions provided here on the forum. So the way I see it Devs would like two things from us: $60 from each, which they already got, and some ideas on how to make the game better, which is what those fellow forumers will be providing.

My day is great thank you for asking

Now, I understand what your saying how devs like feedback. However, there is a fine line between feedback and out right ingratitude by smashing the game entierly because of some feature that didn't make it into the game. When this game first came out the only thing people could do is act like a sniffing raging basset hound seeking out anything that wasn't in the previous EOS serise. Otherwords, it was a cool thing to hate on this game, to the point that it became a trend. I remeber going to gamestop at midnight release to get the game. I put it in and just wondering around the world made me giggle like a little school girl. That was just my first immpression. Now that I am 400 hours in the and still need to complete the MQ and mages QL, I know for a fact the game has depth. It just requires some self-discipline not to exploit teh enconomy, FT, or OP your character along with some reasonable saving habits. Then again, i come back to the forums and people are still making topics like "i used to like skyrim but i couldn't get into it, i didn't even finish the MQ, i'm playing Gears 3 & Dark Souls" kinda garbage.

On the one hand it seems like beth went out of its way to cater to these ingrats only to have them be fair weather fans, but hey they made the sale, they are a biz that needs to profit. However, they didn't forget about me either. Most people that are vets to the series are turned off by the former and it becomes really hard to see the latter. All in all I think the devs need to hear contructive critizem from the vets of the serise. SO hopefully that will translate into better DLC much like SI was on EOS!V. Nevertheless, in the broader context Skyrim is in a class of its own and cant be touched. The only things that come close are the flashy "movie like" RPGs from Bioware. However, after i play those games i cant sit there and replay it like i can an EOS game cause i skip through all the cut seceans and i'm left with a very uninsiring world. Much like DA:O was. Yeah its cool to sit in a menu to think about how you want to plan you character then get pissed of mid game cause you F'd it up so now you got to go back and start a new character. In skyrim, if you want to add a magica skill mid game and the whole time you didn't invest anything into magic, its still possiable.

People that blast the game want a complex character skill tree and have to sit in a menu for hours thinking on how to build a monster so they can go online and be the first to reveal the next best character build everyone should try. Dont get me wrong, i like that too, but not in EOS. It wouldn't make sense, anymore. Maybe in Morrowind days but not in this time. Sure, people can call Skyrim merely an action/adventure game but the idea that its no longer a roleplaying game because how you advance your character is not a dry text book type of experience is invalid. I like all types of RPGs and i like how beth tried something new with an RPG experience. However, the reaction its got was much like that when the minds back in the day was told the earth is not flat but round. It went agaisnt all logic at the time. I think what beth did in skyrim character advancement is going to change RPGing forever. However, i think its just a start and a movement in the right direction. I hope it will only get better from here on out.

Also, those people that also think Roleplaying is supposed to be a citmatic experience like watching a movie, i.e., mass effect, and then getting to have to make little choices that influence the direction of the story, is the pinicale of roleplaying are so fundementally flawed its rediculous. Whats more perplexing is those fans come from a mass effect game and leveling charges against Skyrim for it not having those same features. I've played the hell out of Mass Effect, its fun, i like the story, but thats ALL there is to it really. The enviroments are SO lame. Its eye candy with a little bit of shock and awe. Skyrim is like the motto in the air force "no one can even come close" or like the guy who was in a black hawk in blackhawk down "they cant touch this." Skyrim has a whole trumps anything in the RPG market, so those that fans from Bioware or where ever needs to keep their trash in their own back yard and not "suggest" Skyrim should be like some other compaines game. Period.

No it can't. Most of the time Vikings vs. Bears doesn't feel like a fantasy game at all. For the reasons my witty re-titling implies

Isn't that a naturally given, considering the sales numbers? I myself eg. do not peek into topics titled "Am I the only one...". Many of these so called discussion remind of viral marketing strategies constantly kept on top of any other thread on these forums.

I take Skyrim for what it is, a really great time-sink that kept me busy since I got it, and will be enjoyable after a future break from it. That's the thing for me with Bethesda's games: I try many things when I get it, play many different build-ideas, put the game aside for a while and only then I start playing seriously.

I'd like to, but my version's performance is pretty wonky... pathetic, inconsistent framerate and general lack of optimization.

aye its a damn fine game i still wish there where spears and werebears.

Not true. The single player game that is out now, and the coming MMO are two different projects, one did not magically morph into the other, the two entities have been separate projects from day one.