Why all the love for Serana ?!

Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:30 pm

I tend to see Serana as a bit of a lost soul, pardon the pun.

She's been locked away since before Talos, she only knows her family and the vamps in the castle, they all die with the exception of mom who she doesn't get along with too well, and the only other people she knows are either you or the dawnguard, so she really doesn't have a lot of choice as to where she goes or what she does. Added to that, it's pretty obvious if you follow a particular choice path in the questline that she is pretty keen on the player character, so a split with him/her could be pretty devasting for her emotionally.

Just my observations after I ran through the questline a particular way.

is there a walkthru for that i was trying to get but i think i messed up somewhere
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:42 am

I tend to see Serana as a bit of a lost soul, pardon the pun. She's been locked away since before Talos, she only knows her family and the vamps in the castle, they all die with the exception of mom who she doesn't get along with too well, and the only other people she knows are either you or the dawnguard, so she really doesn't have a lot of choice as to where she goes or what she does. Added to that, it's pretty obvious if you follow a particular choice path in the questline that she is pretty keen on the player character, so a split with him/her could be pretty devasting for her emotionally. Just my observations after I ran through the questline a particular way.

Interesting point! Looking at it from that angle she's like a lost little kitten, imprinting on the first person she see's that's relatively nice to her. You are the first person she encounters after being under for some thousands of years.

poor girl :ermm:
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:21 pm

Interesting point! Looking at it from that angle she's like a lost little kitten, imprinting on the first person she see's that's relatively nice to her. You are the first person she encounters after being under for some thousands of years.

poor girl :ermm:
Not to mention your blood is the first blood she has tasted in thousands of years.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:18 am

Now, since you agreed with me on point one, that she IS the most developed character, and you can't stand her, why are you even playing? Seriously. That's a serious question. Because, you can't be playing for character and story if you've already now admitted that this is the best of it and it svcks. So, if you're not playing for character and story, for RPing, then why are you even responding to character discussion threads?

Ok, you'll have to clarify what you're asking. Why do I play Skyrim? Because I'd like to see all the game has to offer and I haven't yet. Why am I responding? Because, I wanted to say that I'm not one of the people wanting to marry Serana and not singing her praises all the time. If you could clarify that'd be great.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:24 am

Ok, you'll have to clarify what you're asking. Why do I play Skyrim? Because I'd like to see all the game has to offer and I haven't yet. Why am I responding? Because, I wanted to say that I'm not one of the people wanting to marry Serana and not singing her praises all the time. If you could clarify that'd be great.

Real simple. You're playing a role-playing game which, according to you, is severely lacking in both character and story if you a) agree that Serana is the best it has to offer and that B) its best is bloody awful. Being that character and story are the meat and bones of RPGs, I'm asking why you even bothered to play an RPG. It seems you're playing it as an action/adventure, from a somewhat completionist standpoint, no? If so, then why even concern yourself with the aspects of the game that other people enjoy, but that you, quite obviously, don't?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:54 pm

Sounds like the people who dont like her say so because liking her is too mainstream, lol. I honestly dont see why people dont like her. The reasons for liking her are obvious. She's the most attractive interesting follower in the game with really good dialogue with your character, and she has a touch of mystery. And those http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/Images/412061-1344308804.jpg A better question would be why DONT you like Serana? I mean, come on! Those http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1366&bih=497&tbm=isch&tbnid=GFNRVrvCuJNLVM:&imgrefurl=http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/Images/119909&docid=agxOD-3oSRaB_M&imgurl=http://static.skyrim.nexusmods.com/images/2111113-1344088525.jpg&w=1600&h=900&ei=UPEvUJPnL4G69gTmn4HQDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1016&vpy=215&dur=354&hovh=130&hovw=185&tx=147&ty=46&sig=109154881302357984194&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0,i:120
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 pm

Those eyes are horrible, I like the vanilla eyes. But her personality somewhat svcks.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:13 am

Those eyes are horrible, I like the vanilla eyes. But her personality somewhat svcks.

You dont like Serana's eyes? They're beautiful! And amazingly hypnotic. I like how they glow in the dark. The original were ok, but nothing special, assuming you mean the old vampire eyes. And whats wrong with her personality?
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 pm

I do too, but those were some really good eye shots. Her eyes are amazingly hypnotic. Love how they glow in the dark. Whats wrong with her personality?
Her eyes are not what are amazingly hypnotic to me. :hubbahubba: And he wishes she was more bloodthirsty, and seductive, but would turn around and stab you in the back after seducing you.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:42 pm

Her eyes are not what are amazingly hypnotic to me. :hubbahubba: And he wishes she was more bloodthirsty, and seductive, but would turn around and stab you in the back after seducing you.

More seductive how? Showing more cleavege or something? As for the bloodthirstiness, I'm glad she isn't. I'm a little tired of the typical bloodthirsty vampire.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:43 pm

More seductive how? Showing more cleavege or something? As for the bloodthirstiness, I'm glad she isn't. I'm a little tired of the typical bloodthirsty vampire.
Seductive was the wrong word, I meant manipulative. I haven't played Dawnguard, so I am not 100% sure what her personality is like, but from what I have heard she is not a bloodthirsty vampire.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:56 pm

I like the eyes, wouldn't mind some myself in real life, oh and Serana is probably the only reason I will consider getting Dawngaurd for the PC.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:48 pm

Seductive was the wrong word, I meant manipulative. I haven't played Dawnguard, so I am not 100% sure what her personality is like, but from what I have heard she is not a bloodthirsty vampire.
She has her moments. But she's nothing like her father.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:25 am

Seductive was the wrong word, I meant manipulative. I haven't played Dawnguard, so I am not 100% sure what her personality is like, but from what I have heard she is not a bloodthirsty vampire.

Thank god, no she's not. That would've gotten old, fast. I know some people don't like her talking about her father and her "daddy issues". I don't see why. Its not like she's complaining about little teenager things like not staying up late or something. Her father AND mother basically peer pressured her into screwing a daedra lord to be a vampire, and ordeal she may or may not survive, then afterwards treated her like an instrument. Her father saw her as an instrument to bring about his crazy ambitions, and was willing to sacrifice her life to bring down the sun. Thats a pretty good reason to complain about her family.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:03 am

Honestly after what she went through become a vampire I don't see her having any intrest in a lovers comfort ever again.. infact i'm betting she still has nightmares. but anyway. Marry, kill, befriend or betray, I'd like these options with all the NPCs of Skyrim. Not just Serana. There are some officers in army camps that just wont die for some reason.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:53 am

Honestly after what she went through become a vampire I don't see her having any intrest in a lovers comfort ever again.. infact i'm betting she still has nightmares. but anyway. Marry, kill, befriend or betray, I'd like these options with all the NPCs of Skyrim. Not just Serana. There are some officers in army camps that just wont die for some reason.

That happened over 4000 years ago, I'm sure she's over it by now.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:49 pm

If its bad enough I'm sure its a wound that time couldn't heal.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:43 pm

You dont like Serana's eyes? They're beautiful! And amazingly hypnotic. I like how they glow in the dark. The original were ok, but nothing special, assuming you mean the old vampire eyes. And whats wrong with her personality?
I like her eyes, but the ones you linked to were not the ones she has in the game. Those were modded. I do love the female vampires eyes.
Thank god, no she's not. That would've gotten old, fast. I know some people don't like her talking about her father and her "daddy issues". I don't see why. Its not like she's complaining about little teenager things like not staying up late or something. Her father AND mother basically peer pressured her into screwing a daedra lord to be a vampire, and ordeal she may or may not survive, then afterwards treated her like an instrument. Her father saw her as an instrument to bring about his crazy ambitions, and was willing to sacrifice her life to bring down the sun. Thats a pretty good reason to complain about her family.
Serana. Is. A. Vampire. So she get pressured into being Molag Bal's plaything, but in return she is given immortality, immunity to diseases, enhanced powers both natural and supernatural. If anything, she should of truly saw her vampirism as a gift. What gets old is the regular whining characters like Kodlak or Sinding who hate what they become because they became too attached to their human shells.

I was actually surprised to see that Dawnguard had a story similar to my female vampire character. No lie. Both my character and Serana are pureblooded, though they became slightly different and are of different strains. They both have black hair, orange/red eyes, etc and both had vampiric maternal and parental issues :lol:. Only different is Serana doesn't commit patricide out of hunger for power, nor does she stab people in the back, manipulate the masses or deceives her way throught he ages. I guess I dislike Serana because she doesn't fit what a vampire should be. Was she used? Yep. What she a tool? Yes. What should she have done? Play the game better. Use her parents as tools, find a way to manipulate them, plot against them, destroy them and take over the Volkihar coven. Vampires are backstabbers by nature and deceitful.

Yes, Harkon was a fanatic and an extremist. He wanted to plunge the world into eternal darkness and bring war on all of Tamriel, Serana definetly should not be like him. Still, she's a vampire, she feeds. That is what she is suppose to do. Mortals are cattle, plain and simple. A hungry lion would never play patty cake with a sheep. Ever.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:39 pm

I like her eyes, but the ones you linked to were not the ones she has in the game. Those were modded. I do love the female vampires eyes.

Thats what I though you meant initially, but I looked at Serana in my game and couldn't tell the difference, so I assumed you meant the original vampire eyes. Taking a closer look, yea they are modded, but they still look wonderful. You're right though. Now that I have the images next to the original, Serana's normal vampire eyes do look a lot better.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:32 pm

I like her eyes, but the ones you linked to were not the ones she has in the game. Those were modded. I do love the female vampires eyes.

Serana. Is. A. Vampire. So she get pressured into being Molag Bal's plaything, but in return she is given immortality, immunity to diseases, enhanced powers both natural and supernatural. If anything, she should of truly saw her vampirism as a gift. What gets old is the regular whining characters like Kodlak or Sinding who hate what they become because they became too attached to their human shells.

I was actually surprised to see that Dawnguard had a story similar to my female vampire character. No lie. Both my character and Serana are pureblooded, though they became slightly different and are of different strains. They both have black hair, orange/red eyes, etc and both had vampiric maternal and parental issues :lol:. Only different is Serana doesn't commit patricide out of hunger for power, nor does she stab people in the back, manipulate the masses or deceives her way throught he ages. I guess I dislike Serana because she doesn't fit what a vampire should be. Was she used? Yep. What she a tool? Yes. What should she have done? Play the game better. Use her parents as tools, find a way to manipulate them, plot against them, destroy them and take over the Volkihar coven. Vampires are backstabbers by nature and deceitful.

Yes, Harkon was a fanatic and an extremist. He wanted to plunge the world into eternal darkness and bring war on all of Tamriel, Serana definetly should not be like him. Still, she's a vampire, she feeds. That is what she is suppose to do. Mortals are cattle, plain and simple. A hungry lion would never play patty cake with a sheep. Ever.
I think it is still implied in the game that Serana is a killer, and wouldn't think twice about killing someone, but they aren't going to show that in the game. I also feel like we are supposed to see her "softer", nicer side, but around other people she probably is somewhat the way you wish she was.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:57 pm

Serana. Is. A. Vampire. So she get pressured into being Molag Bal's plaything, but in return she is given immortality, immunity to diseases, enhanced powers both natural and supernatural. If anything, she should of truly saw her vampirism as a gift. What gets old is the regular whining characters like Kodlak or Sinding who hate what they become because they became too attached to their human shells.


She did see it as a gift, but mainly because she probably wanted to look on the bright side of being peer pressured into getting [censored] by a daedra lord. Not everyone wants to trade their humanity for power. You may see it as a gift, but you must be able to see how it is also a curse. Thinking that a girl pushed into something like vampirism at her age after [censored] a daedra lord is just unrealistic. It sounds cool looking from the outside (If you can get past screwing Molag Bal) but actually going through that process and being changed into a creature is totally different if you actually went through it. Not everyone is hungry for power.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:07 pm

I think it is still implied in the game that Serana is a killer, and wouldn't think twice about killing someone, but they aren't going to show that in the game. I also feel like we are supposed to see her "softer", nicer side.
There lies the problem. We see Volkihar munching on thralls on the table, feeding on them in cattle pens, but Serana is never seen doing these things.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:47 pm

There lies the problem. We see Volkihar munching on thralls on the table, feeding on them in cattle pens, but Serana is never seen doing these things.
Again I think it is because Bethesda wanted us to see Serana's softer side, and show that she isn't just a bloodthirsty vampire. I wish we could see her grab someone, and drain them dry, but I think Bethesda feels that makes Serana less appealing, for some strange reason, I think that would be badass.
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Post » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:53 pm

She has a still has a vengeful side. Her comment toward Isran shows that.
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Post » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:47 am

Again I think it is because Bethesda wanted us to see Serana's softer side, and show that she isn't just a bloodthirsty vampire. I wish we could see her grab someone, and drain them dry, but I think Bethesda feels that makes Serana less appealing, for some strange reason, I think that would be badass.
You can still be a blood-thirsty vampire and be "sympathetic". Look at Janus Hassildor. He feeds on humans and yet he is courteous. Likewise, Lord Lovidicus fell in love with a mortal and had a softer side when he found out he might have a vampiric child until he was locked away and betrayed by his own food. He then became a vengeful fellow swearing to tear the baby from her womb. :eek:

I agree, Serana would be so much better if she was a bit more malevolent in her nature. Again, there is a difference between being a normal vampire and a vampire fanatic.
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