Where?



And here, you dispute someone else's opinion.


So, something about glass houses applies here.

you are just proving my point here
I stated my opinion, there's a difference between opinions and deriding someone you know?

In this thread. You told them to just play the 10 minutes through the tutoral, because you don't care about it, and would not give them a second character creation screen at the end of the tutorial.
It seems as if you just don't want some to have a litte more freedom in their choice. But this is enough now, I derailed it to far, so i'll take my leave with my final words being: I would be happy for the console crowd, if Bethesda would give people this second character creation.

I didn't tell anyone what to do, that was an example: play 10 minutes, if you don't like the char you made start over....you know,as an example of what happens to me when I play.

Stating an opinion and telling everyone else they're wrong for not sharing your opinion is the kind of the dividing line between the two.

Anyway the option would of been nice. The day I found out about just making a separate save file at the end of the tutorial for Oblivion I was so happy. It's simply a nice feature to have that does no harm.

You still do not get it. I never said I wanted to change a character. I want to CREATE new ones without having to play through Helgen. Can i put this on a loop?

I never said they were wrong to anyone and I stated my opinion

A single character takes me about 40 hours of play to "complete" (based on a sample size of 3). The 10 minutes of "tutorial" accounts for 1/240 of the time spent with the character, or less than .5 %. I consider this a non-issue.

and you can make a save before creating a char, and helgen lasts 10 minutes or less, should I put THIS on a loop? (and it's my opinion)

so I bet calling someone ignorant, butthurt, weird, stupid and crazy is not a dividing line for you...interesting

Ten mins is alot to some of us. Bethesda's open world is one of the key elements and reasons I even play this game. So why should IO be forced to play a tutorial dungeon that I do not need to enjoy a new character? That is my opinion, I was never really interested in yours.

my bad, I always thought that threads were about reading other people's opinions...what a fool I am...

I actually agree with most of this., all except the "dying of boredom" part. I just started a brand-new character the other day (Crystal Beth) and assumed I'd drag thru the beginning of the game, but it was just as immersive as the first time I did it; maybe more so in certain ways.

But it svcks not having the option to change stuff just before exiting the tutorial. It means we have to do the beginning of the game whenever we start a new character. It's not possible to roleplay an alternate beginning.

Even though it's useless to you, you seem as if it would bother you to simply click on "ok, I want this to be my character" as much as other people to play the tutorial over and over and over again. The difference would be, you would only need to spare a second, every other person needs to spare 5-10 minutes.

I have 5 different characters on different levels between 5 and 65 and started another 4 (tried dead is dead with some). So now I basically run through Helgen in 5 minutes. With an option to change the race I would have only needed to do it twice and it would have given me about an hour more to explore the world.

The thing is: This option hurt basically no one, so why remove something which is just convenience for some people?

Ignorant is derisive, but no one's called you any of the others.

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