Because that's a good way to appeal to Skyrim's target demographic of 16 year old males: copy the most cliché story loved by 16 year old females.

Hahahaha no.



Furries? In the Bethesda forums?
It's more likely than you think!

I know this has been discussed and it the hot topic right now on the forums as there are multiple threads about werewolves, vampires, Dawnguard, etc. But another poster (I forget who you are, sorry) really got me thinking about the up-coming DLC. And the more I think about it, the more likely I think that Dawnguard will not be as vampire-focused as many on here think. Well, it will be, but only half of it. The other half will focus on werewolves.

I have a pretty good gut feeling that Dawnguard will be a werewolf clan of some sorts. And the player will choose whether to join up with them and become a more powerful werewolf or join up with the vampires and do the same. Now this theory does leave out the idea that the player can go through the story without choosing one or the other, perhaps there's something that we don't know, maybe there's a third "choice." Who knows. Here's what I do know...

1. In the beta test sign-ups one of the questions, as I'm sure most on here know is whether or not you play as a werewolf or a vampire. Bethesda would not ask this question if there were not ties to vampires and werewolves in Dawnguard. They want to be sure that there are some of each in the beta testing. I think this is the best indication that werewolves will get some love in Dawnguard.

2. Vsions has said that the future looks good for werewolves and gave a little "wink" in one of the other threads that was discussing the possibility of werewolves getting some improvements or attention in the DLC (or at least future DLCs).

3. Bethesda LOVES to try and keep secrets to surprise its audiences, which I appreciate. However, most of the time these are brought to light before they can be delivered the way Bethesda intends them, as surprises. Werewolves in general are a great example. Lets think back prior to release of Skyrim.

There were a TON of questions on whether or not werewolves would be in the game and we got the typical "we're not talking about that right now," answer from Bethsda over and over. However, the question was finally answered in one of the Q&A threads on this forum prior to Skyrim's release in which the answer was given. No. Werewolves will not be in Skyrim? Really? Bethesda straight-up lied about this, which I find pretty cool and funny. To our surprise and pleasure we quickly found out that werewolves, in fact, were in the game. And that' they'd be playable. So now here we are again...

I think Bethesda is wanting to deliver the surprise that they were unable to hide in the original release. This DLC will be vampires vs werewolves. The more I think about it, the more I believe its true. The Dawnguard have to have some kind of power, or something special about them. We'll know for sure soon enough.

I swear, is this is a werewolv vs vampire thing I will laugh at the people wanting to go play human. At the same time, I will weep and kick a few puppies while punching some kittens. Sure, they took influence from Underworld, but pitting these two creatures against each other is crossing the line.

1. Werewolves have no reason to go against vampires. Vice versa.
2. It would be better if it were a bunch of mortals trying to kill vampires.

I hate to side with the vampire and werewolf lovers, but if Molag Bal created the vampires while Hircine created the werewolves. So if the princes hate each other and compete with each other, woulden't their creatures fight for them? Its a theory at least.

Well some people think 9/11 was an inside job and gave the government an excause to invade the Middle East, so I think Bethesda can make it an excause.

You can say the same about the vampire lords. Besides I thought the princes hated each other in the first place?

You can say the same about the vampire lords. Besides I thought the princes hated each other in the first place?

You can say the same about the vampire lords. Besides I thought the princes hated each other in the first place?

if Dawnguard are basically a werewolf clan that would make me like Dawnguard. Much better than another generic human vampire hunter organization.

Some would rant there's already The Companions, but the Circle are few in number and don't do anything "big" like the Dawnguard are trying to do. Yea the Circle go after the Silver Hand, but the Silver Hand are pushovers compared to Vampire Lords/Ladies.

But I still unsure about Dawnguard unless werewolves are confirmed to play a big part in it. I also think if they go all out with werewolves side being Dawnguard, they should update female werewolf form model so it's more feminine. (bigger hips and legs, , briasts, more fur on torso, smaller shoulders and arms)

I know they will take care of the Lycanthrope perk/skill tree just fine but yea it's one of the things that urks me about werewolves, also the fact that they can only be used in 3rd person, when Bloodmoon supported first person Lycanthrope gameplay.



if anything maybe Dawnguard are Werebears? That would explain that picnic basket in the trailer.


And Werewolves will get the Lycanthrope perks Werebears get? That would be quite a twist. They could cover both bases that way, along with the confusion concerning Werebears being absent in Skyrim.

Personally, I'm of the belief that Bethesda's going for the Van Helsing thing here, as opposed to the Underworld story. Granted, I know that in the Van Helsing movie, he turns into a werewolf and eats a 'Vampire Lord' Dracula... But I believe that with the unassuming, leather armor, the cross-bow focus, and the hunting persona, the Dawnguard are meant to be hunters of evil like Van Helsing. However, I do very much like the idea of their grand master being a werebear (NOT WEREWOLF!), even if it was originally facetious. I think it'd not only be amusing, but kick ass.

Imagine it:

Molag Bal's creations, the Vampires, are trying to blot out the sun and dominate all life, turning it into unlife and cattle. This is anathema to the idea of Hircine and The Hunt, that everyone is free; there are predators and prey, but no one knows who will win and who will die. Molag Bal represents Order (in its most evil form), whereas Hircine represents Chaos. A Werebear (just because bears is coo', and we already got wolves) leading his human lackeys against the Vampiric overlord would be great fun.

I'm actually pretty sure that the Dawngaurd will be like the Silver Hand, but for vampires instead.

Personally, I'm of the belief that Bethesda's going for the Van Helsing thing here, as opposed to the Underworld story. Granted, I know that in the Van Helsing movie, he turns into a werewolf and eats a 'Vampire Lord' Dracula... But I believe that with the unassuming, leather armor, the cross-bow focus, and the hunting persona