Why they pronounce it "K-eye-sahr"

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:01 pm

After reading several reviews and listening to gamer reports, I am appalled at the fact that reviewers, like this imbecile
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-think-fallout-new-vegas/
assume that a major piece of dialogue in New Vegas would somehow be faulty and slip through.

So, here is a little lesson.

In latin, the official Roman language, c's are pronounced only in their "hard" form, like "cat"

The letter combination "ae" is pronounced "eye", because these letters were also pronounced in a pure form, "ah" and "eh".
So, test it yourself, when you say "aheh" several times, it begins to sound more and more like "eye". This was the way it was pronounced.

So, remaining loyal to Latin for their highest leader, the Legion pronounces Caesar "K-eye-sahr"

I hope I can enlighten someone with this information.
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Kortniie Dumont
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:39 am

I thought the old guy in Goodsprings pointed it out pretty clearly when he pronounces it both ways.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:31 pm

What I'd like to know is how they figured out the proper pronunciation of a dead language 200 years after a nuclear war that would have destroyed almost all evidence of ancient Rome ever having existed.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:43 pm

Wait...so they pronounced it right?

Great next time I'll order Kai-Sahr salad.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:37 pm

What I'd like to know is how they figured out the proper pronunciation of a dead language 200 years after a nuclear war that would have destroyed almost all evidence of ancient Rome ever having existed.

Books. The Followers of the Apocalypse was originally based out of a Library in Fallout. Caesar is a former FotA.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:58 pm

What I'd like to know is how they figured out the proper pronunciation of a dead language 200 years after a nuclear war that would have destroyed almost all evidence of ancient Rome ever having existed.
Because the proper pronunciation is probably listed in every single Encyclopedia or college level history book that covers that period currently in print in the Western World. And it should be pretty aparent simply from playing the game that a number of books and computers survived. The Caesar of the game was nothing if not a reader.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:09 pm

Well, if you ordered a K-eye-sar salad at Papa John's Pizza, they'll think you are an alien.

If you order one at a Latin convention, or went back in time, people would think nothing of it

Context is key.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:54 pm

I thought the old guy in Goodsprings pointed it out pretty clearly when he pronounces it both ways.


This. Easy Pete explained it quite well.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:57 am

Books. The Followers of the Apocalypse was originally based out of a Library in Fallout. Caesar is a former FotA.

win
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:42 am

Yeah, I've heard both Caesar (standard) and "Kye-sar" but lets be honest, they're referencing a leader who was alive 2200 years and a nuclear-war ago!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:31 pm

After reading several reviews and listening to gamer reports, I am appalled at the fact that reviewers, like this imbecile
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-think-fallout-new-vegas/
assume that a major piece of dialogue in New Vegas would somehow be faulty and slip through.

So, here is a little lesson.

In latin, the official Roman language, c's are pronounced only in their "hard" form, like "cat"

The letter combination "ae" is pronounced "eye", because these letters were also pronounced in a pure form, "ah" and "eh".
So, test it yourself, when you say "aheh" several times, it begins to sound more and more like "eye". This was the way it was pronounced.

So, remaining loyal to Latin for their highest leader, the Legion pronounces Caesar "K-eye-sahr"

I hope I can enlighten someone with this information.

Thanks for clearing that up man! I was beginning to wonder if America had once again screwed up pronunciation of a foreign language, it seems once again we have. Mas Dankas!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:30 pm

This. Easy Pete explained it quite well.


Yep. But somehow people miss it... :nope:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:01 pm

Thanks for clearing that up man! I was beginning to wonder if America had once again screwed up pronunciation of a foreign language, it seems once again we have. Mas Dankas!

Technically we, or maybe the English might be more accurate. Did actually screw it up. Obsidian is just correcting us. :laugh:

@Wcstorm- Thats because apart from a few people like me and a few other new fallout comers, alot of the people introduced by Fallout 3 consider reading dialogue and outdated thing.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:29 am

Or filed it under trivial information and forgot his conversation...
Or like my buddy did...used him for weapons testing.*laughs*
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:57 pm

i cant believe someone pays that guy to write game reviews...

"they all pronounce Caesar “Kai-zar”, a mystery I never got to the bottom of." --obviously something he never actually tried to investigate, as proven by others in this thread, because the explanation is even in the game itself...

"Later, I encountered a man tied to a pole, begging to be cut down, but there was no way to do so." --he must be talking about anders outside of the legion camp in cottonwood cove. where you have to talk to (read: kill) the legion leaders first...

"Whatever voice acting agency or methadone rehabilitation clinic Bethesda used to voice the populace of Oblivion and Fallout 3 is back" :facepalm:

this was the first, and last, time i will visit his website..
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:29 pm

I'm not surprised, but it seems like the big divide over whether or not New Vegas is a good game is being fought between the people who liked Fallout 1 and 2 and the "AHAHAHA MUNGO SMASH, MUNGO LIKES TEH SUPER MOOTANTS 'COS DEY MAKE DA FUNNY NOIZE WHEN I SMUSH THEM!" crowd that appeared with FO3.

That reviewer being a prime example... honestly, I stopped reading when he said the Capitol Wasteland was "infused with color".
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:08 am

The guy who wrote that "review" and I use that term lightly, is an idiot. Anyone who prefers the green sky, crap voice acting, and dull color pallet of Fallout 3 over New Vegas has no business doing a review. Personally I was glad to see Obsidian get a chance to work on a Fallout game and show people what their company actually meant for the game to be like. I loved Fallout 3 but in no way do I find it better than New Vegas.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:00 pm

I just read the review, in my mind his credibility dropped to zero when he started putting Fallout 3 on a God tier.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:06 pm

I just read the review, in my mind his credibility dropped to zero when he started putting Fallout 3 on a God tier.

Agreed.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:51 pm

OP, you have to realize that Quintin Smith is an angry troll who intentionally exaggerates and stages screenshots to make Fallout: New Vegas look bad.
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Ezekiel Macallister
 
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:40 pm

In the age of google, everyone is a scholar. It's funny when people get smug about it.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:54 am

In the age of google, everyone is a scholar. It's funny when people get smug about it.

I'm a licensed medical professor at Yale and 4 other Ivy league colleges and I agree.

{In case you can't tell. it's a joke :laugh: }
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:59 pm

TBH his credibility start off low for using Wot I Think as the heading and repeats it in the first paragraph. Thanks for the laughs though.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:38 am

After reading several reviews and listening to gamer reports, I am appalled at the fact that reviewers, like this imbecile
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/10/21/wot-i-think-fallout-new-vegas/
assume that a major piece of dialogue in New Vegas would somehow be faulty and slip through.

So, here is a little lesson.

In latin, the official Roman language, c's are pronounced only in their "hard" form, like "cat"

The letter combination "ae" is pronounced "eye", because these letters were also pronounced in a pure form, "ah" and "eh".
So, test it yourself, when you say "aheh" several times, it begins to sound more and more like "eye". This was the way it was pronounced.

So, remaining loyal to Latin for their highest leader, the Legion pronounces Caesar "K-eye-sahr"

I hope I can enlighten someone with this information.



Good post. I didn't know this when I started the game, but upon hearing it in game I immediately researched it. Seems the least reviewers could do.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:34 am

This was covered in an interview with either Mr. Avellone or Mr. Sawyer before the game was released. I dig it.
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