Will you buy the next Bethesda game?

Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:09 am

If it's Fallout 4? Probably not. Definitely getting TES6 on day one though.
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Angela Woods
 
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:24 pm

Yes I will . There are bound to be bugs and yes they will be fixed . It was the same for morrowind and oblivion . Sorry but that is just the nature of a massive project like this . It will only get better . The main reason I am a devout ES fan is because of the modding . Skrim is still green wait a year or 2 and it'll be into the golden age of mods. Anyways . This game has immense replayablibity and I play it almost exclusively .
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:44 pm

Also of the next TES is TES 6 Summerset Isles and Vallenwood or TES 6 Elswyer then I will DEFINITELY be getting it.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:48 am

Daggerfall was amazing, I'd never seen such a huge and flawed world, all of my games would corrupt before completion no matter how many save file copies I made. It drove me off until the Fallout name forced me to try them again...

Point Lookout was where the bugs started getting bad on PS3, and NV got put away shortly after reaching the Strip with an unclean feeling, Skyrim was given a chance because I thought that things could only improve.

I'm glad that I bought through Amazon, but I don't want a refund, I really just want the dang thing functional start to finish. It was supposed to be my Daddy decompression time... with 3 kids I need it. Try the cleanup after having a 20 month old "thread the needle" on their training panties then tromp poopy-footprints across the living room rug. You don't feel like running around too much after having to lug the carpet cleaner out again.

We'll see.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:53 pm

Without hesitation: Yes.

There are two games which have been on my harddrive from release date on up to now and which I'm still playing ... I install them again when I buy a new computer or when I format my harddrive to do a fresh setup: Morrowind and Oblivion. And without doubt, Skyrim will be the third.

Granted, my enjoyment comes also from the mods talented people make ... but still I cannot count the hours of fun I've had in Morrowind and Cyrodiil. Do I find bugs annoying? Yes. But knowing I will be playing these games with all the great mods for years, I can wait for the patches.

Without Bethesda, these games wouldn't be there ... so they deserve my money on release date (and of course, the modders deserve praise and thanks).
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:49 pm

Yes.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:52 am

The next Fallout? Sure, but only because I'd be curious to see what direction they'd go in with the East coast and the West Coast is absolute gold; I'd buy the west coast either because I'd expect it to be amazing if Obsidian made it, or I'd want to see what Bethesda did if they went there.

TES? To be honest, I don't like what I've seen from Skyrim. I'm at that point where I will buy the next TES probably, but it's one of those last chance situations. Fallout 3 just absolutely pales in comparison to New Vegas; Obsidian made Bethesda look bad in the writing, weapon balancing and character customization categories. Then Skyrim comes out after New Vegas, I thought "maybe they've improved even more than New Vegas did from FO3," but in all honesty, I actually think Skyrim went backwards from Fallout 3. I'll buy the next TES (if I don't get the next Bethesda-Fallout beforehand and it doesn't svck; if the next title they release is FO4 and it svcks, I probably wouldn't bother with TES 6), but it'd really be more to see if I think the series is worth continuing with or not.

I did not like Obsidian's Fallout: New Vegas at all compared to Bethesdas masterpiece of fallout 3. I played both from top to bottom, in and out. Every mission every dioluge option. FNV was boring in comparison to F3 and of course FNV had better dioluge, weapon handling. crafting, etc it was made after F3 and had all of F3's ideas just revamped
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:35 am

Yep, but not straight away this time. I will wait until any bugs have been squashed.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:37 pm

Skyrim is my first Elder Scroll game, I didn't experience too many bugs/glitches, too busy immersing myself in the awesome storyline/environment. So hell yes, I will certainly buy the next one. :)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:12 am

Absolutely. I have no reason not to. The past 4 Bethesda releases are my top 4 favorite games of all time.

As for bugs... I must be the luckiest gamer in the world. Between all 4, Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3, I don't have bugs and glitches, and I rarely ever download a patch (I downloaded the Skyrim patch cuz, well, X-Box Live makes you download patches, but I never downloaded patches for my PC versions of Morrowind, Oblivion, or Fallout 3). All 4 of those games have run just fine for me.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:19 am

I always said if Skyrim followed in the same direction the series has been going since Morrowind, I'd not bother anymore.

It seems to be better than Oblivion at least, so I may stick around for a bit, but if TESVI goes down in the ranks I wont bother anymore. Bethesda have been severely disappointing for years now.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:37 am

I'll still be buying the next one but I'll read this forum first before accepting patches
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:00 pm

Hopefully the next one is a new Fallout.

And of course I'll buy it.

Despite the bugs, they still make some of the most fun games I've ever played.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:04 am

I'm not paying $60 again for a [censored] console port
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:00 pm

Skyrim reinforces the impression that Bethesda are running out of ideas. TES V is just Oblivion 3.1 with dragons. The writing hasn't gotten any better, the combat still svcks and the graphics are actually slightly worse than Oblivion. Levitation isn't back though the technical reason is a good reason why this generation's TES has to remove Levitation. Fallout: NV was better written than Fallout 3, but both are pretty mediocre WRPGs using the 90s as a yardstick. This isn't nostalgia speaking, I would much rather build a medium rig to replay Torment, Baldur's Gate II and Morrowind than go through the technogically modern rpgs suffering from a creative void. The only positive thing I can comment on Skyrim are Jeremy Soule's compositions. At least he's maintaining standards set by himself.

So will I buy Fallout 4 or TES VI? Very much a rental first and decide on ownership later, much like what I'm doing with Skyrim now. I've stopped buying Bethesda's CEs from New Vegas onwards though but I still pay top dollars for Batman: Arkham City. I think that speaks volumes about my views on their products.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:33 pm

Of course.

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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:10 am

Skyrim reinforces the impression that Bethesda are running out of ideas. TES V is just Oblivion 3.1 with dragons. The writing hasn't gotten any better, the combat still svcks and the graphics are actually slightly worse than Oblivion. Levitation isn't back though the technical reason is a good reason why this generation's TES has to remove Levitation. Fallout: NV was better written than Fallout 3, but both are pretty mediocre WRPGs using the 90s as a yardstick. This isn't nostalgia speaking, I would much rather build a medium rig to replay Torment, Baldur's Gate II and Morrowind than go through the technogically modern rpgs suffering from a creative void. The only positive thing I can comment on Skyrim are Jeremy Soule's compositions. At least he's maintaining standards set by himself.

So will I buy Fallout 4 or TES VI? Very much a rental first and decide on ownership later, much like what I'm doing with Skyrim now. I've stopped buying Bethesda's CEs from New Vegas onwards though but I still pay top dollars for Batman: Arkham City. I think that speaks volumes about my views on their products.


Pft everyone knows Skyrim is Fallout with swords.


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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:57 pm

Pft everyone knows Skyrim is Fallout with swords.


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Fallout 3 is just Oblivion with guns. :P
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:38 am

This is my first Bethesda game, and I already picked up fallout3. Planning to buy all their games!
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:26 pm

Fallout 3 is just Oblivion with guns. :P


..and teddy bear bazookas...must not forget those.:)
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:13 pm

I did not like Obsidian's Fallout: New Vegas at all compared to Bethesdas masterpiece of fallout 3. I played both from top to bottom, in and out. Every mission every dioluge option. FNV was boring in comparison to F3 and of course FNV had better dioluge, weapon handling. crafting, etc it was made after F3 and had all of F3's ideas just revamped



To each their own, but to me, Fallout 3 only offered fun exploration.

There were no choices in the main quest. There WAS, but it was so ridiculous that you either played the good guy, or your character was the biggest psychopath on the planet as he had NO motivation for taking the bad route; the bad route meant you killed off your own allies to benefit a group that wants you dead and killed your father.
There wasn't any weapon balancing. This isn't because FNV used F3's engine, this is simply a different philosophy by Obsidian and Bethesda. If you play the Elder Scrolls and you find Umbra or Goldbrand: you're done. End-game weapon right there. Same with Fallout 3: A1-32's Plasma rifle, Lincoln's Repeater, Alien tech or a sniper rifle. Nothing can compete with these, nor did Bethesda make an attempt to let anything compete with them. Obsidian on the other hand made sure each gun had a strength and a weakness. Maybe a gun was accurate but had a slow reloading time, meaning that it fit PERFECTLY for a character with Fast Shot and high agility, but was worthless for a character with Trigger Discipline and low agility.
There was no in-depth story. Don't get me wrong, there was one, but it was copy-pasted from FO1 and FO2. There was nothing original about it, and the story was presented in such a black and white, good vs evil way. FO:NV on the other hand has an interesting mash-up of several social-economic theories and philosophies, along with several side-quests or DLC storylines that are equally as interesting.
There were crap perks. FO3's perks were all free skill points and a few powerful perks that literally anyone could grab. The result was every character felt the same, because the free skill perks did absolutely nothing and the good perks were few, accessible and the obvious choice. New Vegas has dozens of SPECIAL, Perk and Trait combinations that work in all sorts of different ways. The game also had the common sense to LIMIT your perk count to one-per-two-levels, meaning you needed to choose wisely and couldn't specialize in literally everything. Again, this is NOT because Obsidian was simply able to expand upon Fallout 3's base. If anything, many (good) perks in FO3 were taken from FO1 and FO2, and the perks of Skyrim have proven (imo) that when Bethesda is left alone to come up with their own perks, it's not pretty.

As I said, exploration in FO3 was fun as hell, but the quests paled in comparison and the storyline, character customization, and weapon balancing just can't compete. Their storyline was faaaaar less complex, the character customization simply wasn't as detailed and I don't even think FO3 HAD weapon balancing or attempted to have it; the moment you got Lincoln's Repeater or A1-32's Plasma rifle, you were set. The problem is that by the end of the day, exploration gets old. You learn all the interesting locations, and once you've been there, done that, the game is done. Character customization, weapon balancing and a good storyline that can be seen from multiple perspectives though? That's an excellent formula for providing a game with incredible replay value.

Just my two cents.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:44 am

Considering their next game will most likely be Fallout 4 then why not?
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:02 am

I'll buy the next TES game without hesitation. I only upgrade my PC when the next TES comes out.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:04 pm

Buy the next Bethesda game or wait a couple of months?.

Always wait a couple of months. :shrug:

The only reason not to wait a few months ~for anyone's game, is if its a digital dist. [like Steam] and you want to archive the release files pre-patch. Neverwinter Nights (for example), had artwork that they removed via patch ~you lose that (for example) if you don't have the disc and/or they remove them from the the Steam install before you buy access to it.

Always wait several months for the patches; there are often known bugs that are on the list for the first patch ~even before the game ships.
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Post » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:06 pm

Well that all depends. I don't think I really like the direction that Bethesda is moving.

Bugs - to be expected :) TES and bugs are like peanut butter and jelly lol

Morrowind was great -> Oblivion was good -> Skyrim has lots of disappointments.

It seems that Beth keeps subtracting and not adding. For those of you who play MMORPG's, it looks like they've added "elements" of those games. I'm not saying that that's bad, actually, it's a nice change in a single player game to be able to create legendary stuff but subtracted a lot of great things that made the TES series amazing. E.g., spellmaking - wtf??!!! Why remove that?? That was a great aspect of the game.

The other major problem that I have and this breaks it for me, is the fact that Beth partnered up with this piece of garbage 3rd party group called Steam. This is one of the most god-aweful pieces of garbage in a company that I've ever encountered. This is supposed to be a single-player, off-line game. What do they do? They FORCEFULLY download a patch that prevents you from playing offline and have to remain connected to their servers. What if you lose internet connection? That means you're SOL! You should have the option if you want the patch or not and not have it forced upon you. I don't trust them and they should be investigated.

And WHY is it so important for them to constantly be connected to your computer? How do you know they're not taking snapshots of your hardrive? How do you know they're not collecting information about you and what you're doing like Blizzard and Rift do? You don't now do you? Apple tried that little trick until it was discovered. Storm8 has had legal troubles in the past for spying.

Any time that some company uses forceful, questionable, tactics should ALWAYS be questioned. This is a very bad move on Bethesda’s part and I don’t think I will buy any more of their games unless they get their act together.
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