Would you survive post-apocalypse after play Fallout?

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:17 am

I can predict the future:
War Happens, most everyone is dead.
100 Years Pass.
Human Settlements rise, and life begins again.
100 Years Pass.
Powerful settlements are everywhere, the world is still a hostile area.
The U.S. starts returning back to its old life in the year 2010.
The Game "Life" is created by Obsidian Entertainment.
Life is a game that shows how fun it is to survive in the current world, working at a real job, paying bills, and dealing with police!

And that, is the perfect future for me.


Do you know that there was a possible nuclear war once? It happen in India, at least that is what archaeologist think.
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Post » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:19 am

thats crazy. Really??? I don't believe you!!!!
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:44 pm

Ask yourself this: Would you eat a baby, if it was the only way you could survive at the moment?

If yes, you will survive. I would survive.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:18 pm

Living in Sweden I dont worry about the actual nukes, rather the fallout and loss of trade. Loss of trade? Yes, even if we dont get nuked or poisoned or starve, we still have to settle for local resources. We swedes have wood, metal and waterpower but much of modern tech and medicine cant be made without import.
Best to go on with peacetalks and cooporation across borders.

thats crazy. Really??? I don't believe you!!!!

Neither do I.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:03 am

Nice Falcon509 :) Lets continue having some fun...

I agree with much of what your saying if Russia and the US go to war. For any other scenario, we're talking about a Much smaller number of bombs that are much weaker in strength, so your estimates all get cut by huge amounts in the more realistic scenario Today. Your scenario is that of Russia attacking the USA with a complete launch of all ICBMs, which is clearly not the case anymore. Not the most likely scenario. China has a growing arsenal, but it is Nothing by comparison to Russia or the USA and as such the level of annhilation is completely different from the modern scenarios.

Over the next 100 years or so this scenario will continue to be viable. After that however, I no longer think the prospect of the US being annhilated exists. By then the missile defense systems will Really be coming into their own (they are already damn good with mass production in several countries under way), and the existing mass arsenal that Russia has will become largely inert as they can't afford to keep it up. Bomb yield size is not going up, and we in the US can't even get agreement to modernize our existing weapons. So I think the era of countries having Thousands and Thousands of bombs is limited to the lifespan of the current arsenal. Start 2 (if approved) will cut that number in half, and it will just keep going down until we get (I think) in the hundreds. Hundreds of bombs is more than an adequate deterrent and won't cost a mint.


Are you nuts?! The very creation of missile defense systems is a roaring threat to the value of our western nuclear deterrent against that of Russia and the Chinese Republic. As long as our mutual destruction is assured there is no reason to worry about wars to come. Why do we need a missile defense system? The current situation is fine, the cold war was even better, when the enemies of the world were devided in two, rather than the masses of factions that exist today, and, in various cases, are equiping themselves with the skills to build nuclear bombs and deliver them secretly and independently. These are things to worry about, we should insure that nobody else in the world will ever, at any time, aquire the blueprints for a nuclear weapon, as it would be the end of world stability. That is our primary concern. The precense of multiple thousands of nuclear weapons in our arsenal, is essential to leave the unpredictable balance from the platform of international toleration intact. What do you think would happen if the rate of nuclear weapons drops below the point of total mutually assured annihilation, or when defense grids are erected, capable of disarming incoming nuclear attacks? It would be end of the serenity that has reigned over the global relations for the last sixtyfive years. There would no longer be a reason detering nations from attacking each other with conventional weapons, world wars would erupt again as easy as they did from upon the first one. Do you really believe the fairly tale that the ceased fire between the superpowers was a result of appal at the massacre of World War II? Or a flash of compassionate altru?st extremism for mankind? Hell no, what in the sole history of the human race testifies of men's willingness to lower the weapons? Not one single occasion does come up in my mind. The only thing that keeps humans from annihilating each other completely is that their weapons in order to do so have grown so powerfull that they no longer offer a viable argument for world war. If this barrier were to fall, than world war's III and IV would come as quickly as tomorrow's sunrise, with many more to follow.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:03 pm

No I would not survive. Eventually I'll die but not after hording all the gear I could.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:22 pm

Yeah if our nuclear weapons stockpile isn't enough of a deterrent then the gun owners of America sure are. I'm a gun owner and a hunter and given the terrain out in this part of the country, an invasion force better bring tanks or something bigger...

I still stick by my decision to race to ground zero if a nuclear attack is imminent though. I'm not going to bother with being a shadow on a wall though... I want to be turned into the ash that becomes fallout. Besides, I want to know what it feels like to stand right underneath an exploding nuclear bomb.


Want an idea? Well, undisputably you're firsly hit by the flash of the Nuclear detonation, this explosion of light will scorch your eyes' retina and most likely fataly burn you body and fry everything within, the lethal radition that is transported along with it would cook your entrails and blast of your skin like leafes from a tree in autumn. The succeeding blast would soar accros the land and hurtle with deafening thunder towards you with a dwarfing might of overwelhming power and rage that heads the qeually magical and horrofic scenery of shredded atoms releasing their energy with a tremendous force at the core of the nuclear detonation. As the blasting wall of destruction finally reaches your severed body it will crush what life was left in you into eternal damnation and parish every fragment of your marginal existence. And all of this would occur in mere seconds.

Nah, not my kind of prefered death.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:24 pm

I would hope to never experience the experiences I've had in the games in real-life, I somewhat question the effect of stabbing yourself with 100 Super Stimpaks while a Deathclaw mauls you to death.

The credit crunch is enough stress than living in Goodsprings knowing there is Deathclaws north of me in Sloan and Cazadors further!

Reno
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:52 pm

Are you nuts?! The very creation of missile defense systems is a roaring threat to the value of our western nuclear deterrent against that of Russia and the Chinese Republic. As long as our mutual destruction is assured there is no reason to worry about wars to come.

Hmmm last checked I was quite sane actually. That aside, if you understand the missile defense system as it works today, we are not the only ones who will have them in the years to come, most advanced nations will build them. Eventually the number of ABM rockets will outnumber the maximum quantity of warheads that could come in and/or the technology will advance such that ground-based X-ray or chemical lasers can melt them all in the sky. Advance further some years and no ICBM will be able to get through - we are not very far off now as we have the technology, just not the economics to make it real yet. It will likely be much Less than 100 years before ICBMs will be an outmoded technology and the economists will be happy to disconnect them when that time comes.

Why do we need a missile defense system? The current situation is fine, the cold war was even better, when the enemies of the world were devided in two, rather than the masses of factions that exist today, and, in various cases, are equiping themselves with the skills to build nuclear bombs and deliver them secretly and independently.

Because people fear nuclear war, and as long as that fear remains, there will be Americans willing to spend money on the hopes that it wont ever come true. Look at Japan today - as a Gen X or Y person, who could imagine that they would ever want to Exterminate us?! But they did, and they tried. Yet today I count many of my Japanese friends as "best friends", and I can't imagine how that war ever started. My point here is that you can't predict today who the enemy of tomorrow will be, and nor can you predict the kinds of technology that will be developed (or not developed) in the years to come. ABM is Insurance by any other name, and last time I checked, Americans like to have as much insurance as we can afford. It really comes down to the human factors like that in the end.

These are things to worry about, we should insure that nobody else in the world will ever, at any time, aquire the blueprints for a nuclear weapon, as it would be the end of world stability. That is our primary concern.

Do you _really_ believe that the plans for nuclear bombs can be kept secret? Look at the Pakistani scientist who sold the plans to N. Korea and still thinks it was a good idea. Who will be the next to cross that line? We can't say, but we would be fools to "assume" it wont happen again. The only smart strategy in the end is to assume that Eventually, most states will have them and we will need a way to defend against them (large and small). Against a world which we cannot predict, ABM is damn good insurance IMHO. Russia and China are both doing the same, China even shot one of its own satellites out of orbit last year to prove the point. Its not just the USA, ALL powerful nations will boast ABM to the maximum extent that they have political will and money to buy.

The precense of multiple thousands of nuclear weapons in our arsenal, is essential to leave the unpredictable balance from the platform of international toleration intact. What do you think would happen if the rate of nuclear weapons drops below the point of total mutually assured annihilation, or when defense grids are erected, capable of disarming incoming nuclear attacks? It would be end of the serenity that has reigned over the global relations for the last sixtyfive years.

Here we have Some agreement, but your forgetting about the fact that all those thousands of bombs are Very old now, and many of them are well past their service life. The US Congress _has been unable_ to pass the necessary legislation to modernize our weapons, and Los Alamos has been screaming and warning about it for well over a decade now. Russia definitely can't keep up their arsenal, Medvedev himself said exactly this during the recent Start II negotiations - and was part of the reason why both countries were willing to make such a Huge cut in ICBMs - they cost too much. So yeah, the days of multi-thousand nuclear bombs as a deterrent are numbered - regardless of the consequences. Read up on it all at http://www.stratfor.com/ if you want a free source that can teach alot about these things.

There would no longer be a reason detering nations from attacking each other with conventional weapons, world wars would erupt again as easy as they did from upon the first one. Do you really believe the fairly tale that the ceased fire between the superpowers was a result of appal at the massacre of World War II? Or a flash of compassionate altru?st extremism for mankind? Hell no, what in the sole history of the human race testifies of men's willingness to lower the weapons? Not one single occasion does come up in my mind. The only thing that keeps humans from annihilating each other completely is that their weapons in order to do so have grown so powerfull that they no longer offer a viable argument for world war. If this barrier were to fall, than world war's III and IV would come as quickly as tomorrow's sunrise, with many more to follow.

What I believe is that the future is a scary, un-predictable place that will be rife with local (smaller) wars and probably some big ones - but I cannot predict the future. All I can do now is follow the geopolitics of the world as closely as possible, and try to gain some level of understanding about what's going on. I've studied nuclear war in my past and my father is a scientist in the field - so I've learned a few things about the real from the hype, and I firmly believe that the era of the ICBM is coming to a close as a weapon of war between super powers. It will remain our club to the rest of the world to keep the middle and lesser powers from attacking us ever again, but I think the nature of the weapons will change enormously. One no longer needs Nukes to kill mass populations and terrorize nations.

Actually in my "madness", I think the worst weapon of war is Money. It is used as sword and shield, and is so nebulous that super powers can barely detect when it is being used as a mass weapon of war. But it is, and I think it will be the cause of many troubles ahead.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:31 am

Want an idea? Well, undisputably you're firsly hit by the flash of the Nuclear detonation, this explosion of light will scorch your eyes' retina and most likely fataly burn you body and fry everything within, the lethal radition that is transported along with it would cook your entrails and blast of your skin like leafes from a tree in autumn. The succeeding blast would soar accros the land and hurtle with deafening thunder towards you with a dwarfing might of overwelhming power and rage that heads the qeually magical and horrofic scenery of shredded atoms releasing their energy with a tremendous force at the core of the nuclear detonation. As the blasting wall of destruction finally reaches your severed body it will crush what life was left in you into eternal damnation and parish every fragment of your marginal existence. And all of this would occur in mere seconds.

Nah, not my kind of prefered death.


Sounds good to me. I'd rather die in an instant of searing pain than die in the innumerable other ways during or after a nuclear war:

Radiation poisoning?
Starving to death?
Getting shot by someone trying to take my supplies?
Dying of dysentery/cholera/etc?
Dying from dehydration?
Being killed then eaten by a cannibal?

Regarding a nuclear deterrent, I believe that's the best possible way to ensure the survival of the human race. We can't take away the knowledge of nuclear weapons and prevent rogue nations from acquiring them; but we can maintain a suitable stockpile, work on anti-proliferation treaties, build anti-ballistic missile systems, and use diplomacy or force to limit the chances of all out nuclear war. However, this subject is completely off-topic.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:24 pm

I really think most everybody would die except for the Austrailians. Why? Because nobody is going to nuke them, and they're far enough away to not suffer too much from the fallout.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:34 pm

No. Lots of knowledge, but too many physical ailments - too old.

Most wouldn't anyway.

Big luck factor, too.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:26 pm

Nope, even if secured from radiation or biohazards illness would kill me off within two days after my meds run out.
Symptoms would be dehydration, severe sickness even a sip of water would cause violent vomiting, weakness, organ failure, mental lapse, fainting, passing out, coma then death...
If I were to survive in some freak fantasy mutation, I'm sure some bullet sponge will come along to finish the job, but at least I'll have an in with those hot ghoul chicks.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:43 am

"- Radioactive Vault full of predatory Ghouls? Awesome. Let's get inside, maybe there's something cool in there."
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:49 pm

The truth is if you survived the first bombardment you most likely would not survive to much longer after. If you say you would then you are lying to yourself and everyone else.

Also to anyone that thinks people wouldn't become crazy and attack each other over clean food and water or anything is rather naive about human nature. Think of what happened in california during I believe the rodney king trial?
Without someone around to keep the peace people will kill and do other nasty things for whatever reason the deem.

Remember some of the raider dens in fallout 3 .

If anything these games would cause people to die more then help
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:28 pm

Cheyenne Mountains has really huge fallout base, look me up in near future. lol :celebration:



Trust me, you do NOT want to go in there.

Unless you want to run smack-dab into the Calculator.

Vault 0 is in there :D

Well maybe, not sure if that's canon :P
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:23 am

I think most people think they can survive. Id like to say the same thing. But in reality i doubt most of us would last more then a month. Once all the stores have been looted, its now up to whos the best hunter, and or cannibal.

And i doubt most people know how to operate and maintain firearms. "I shot a desert eagle once at a firing range" doesnt cut it.

And i wouldnt really call fallout new vegas truely "Post-apocalypse". With major factions made up of thousands, with major cities, forms of government, and currency. It sounds to me that civilization is growing again. If you plopped me into that sort of situation, i think my chances and other peoples chances of survival would be a lot better.

Now if we were plopped days or weeks right after the bombs fell. Good luck :)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:38 pm

If you survived during the time of the fallout games I believe people would have a better chance of surviving then right after the bombs dropped. First of all, lots of the radiation would have dissipated since the great war. Planting crops would still be hard, but if you find the right land you could probably (if you had decent knowledge of agriculture) grow your own food supply. Second, Your anscestors would learn over time how to survive, as you grow up, you would learn from people with experience. And third, by that time people will have become more civilized and there would be less anarcy. Of course there are problems too. Darwinism would be the only thing that governs the world. People with born illnesses will die, the weak will die, the unintelligent will die. Survival of the fittest will be the driving force.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:38 am

Yes I think I could, why.....

Im ex Infantry - so trained in Weapons, medical and used to be a survival instructor and im sure that would help no end as well.

I also live a life that involves a little bit of work, but a lot of trading, as in purchase of items and sell / swap at a profit and this would keep me going in caps!

I have taught Leadership skills, so getting a team together and keeping them motivated is not that much of an issue.

What would I do.....

Get a team, find a location, make it secure, setup survival water and food stuff, send out patrols and make a basic "store" so any "faction" could trade with me / us, thus keeping most onside, while away from all training the team in advanced weapons and survival, so over time we could form a new government and take control :)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:05 pm

definitely,i would go to the nearest elecronics store steal some [censored],then get food,of course find some eweapons take whathever i want while im able to,and open the All-in-one store,maybe even become a ghoul(i could have a shop for even 2 decades!)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:24 pm

definitely,i would go to the nearest elecronics store steal some [censored],then get food,of course find some eweapons take whathever i want while im able to,and open the All-in-one store,maybe even become a ghoul(i could have a shop for even 2 decades!)


What good will electronics do you after an EMP? Get a bicycle and learn to do things the Amish way, if you will. In fact, ride your bicycle up to the nearest Amish territory.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:38 pm

What good will electronics do you after an EMP? Get a bicycle and learn to do things the Amish way, if you will. In fact, ride your bicycle up to the nearest Amish territory.

Agreed 1000%, the only way to get home after a bomb goes off in DC is to bike home. Putting a cheap bike in the trunk is "smart".
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:31 pm

@OP

I wouldn't want to...
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:46 pm

Nope. Too many health issues. If I knew it was coming, I would be tempted to drive to a site that I KNOW is going to take a direct hit. (Detroit springs immediately to mind.....)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Yes. I would survive. D'ya know why? I'm in England.
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