[Jeff Turner]

Things change Fishy. When I joined it was still relatively small with much more of a community even across all the forums. Now things have become a lot bigger, the membership is different and the moderators need to concentrate much more on the game forums. Now I wonder how many of the myriad members joining for Skyrim have even looked at this forum, and indeed how many would ever consider posting in here? Yes, once Skyrim is released and it settles down no doubt there will be a migration of some of the more active members there to CD but the majority will just fade away to talk about the latest game release elsewhere.

Members leave, some jump others are pushed, it isn't static any more. The same goes for this discussion which will no doubt be repeated next year, or in two years or as long as gamesas keep this place going.

I can see your point in some ways. The community is growing in leaps and bounds thanks to new technology, popularity and other causes. It is hard to keep the rules and regulations the same over the years. If I remember correctly over the time I have been here there has been some rules changes here and there.I think since the community is getting much larger it is hard to keep our tight community we had when I joined or even smaller when you joined. Heck I wouldn't be surprised with all the members Skyrim will bring that the forums will be altered so that it easier for more people to post many different topics, heck I bet you mods have even discussed about splitting up the community forums once or twice. Maybe I just miss my old stars and green backround. :shrug:

[Robert Jackson]

It's one of the reasons I stay here.

[TRIsha FEnnesse]

I dunno. Pros and cons: the moderators ensure that it doesn't degenerate into the sort of sewer that Usenet has become, but it's perhaps too far in the other direction.

We are more than willing to discuss individual moderator actions ... with one of the community managers (Gstaff or Nick Breckon) if someone feels it is needed .

Isn't the admins' usual line to take it up with the moderator in question?

[Elea Rossi]

i don't have any problems with mods (or rockers :thumbsup: they do a pretty good job as far as i'm concerned :biggrin:

[NeverStopThe]

It depends. Some of the best members that this forum had can no longer return, while some other members still run rampant here (hey, like me!). Some rules are too strict, and politics and religion are banned. Now I don't mind that these threads aren't allowed, but the problem is that the most interesting issues and debates one has to turn to politics and religion, even just to refer to them, and it can't be done...so we're left with the same threads each day to post in. Well, this isn't the mods fault, just the rules are a bit wonky.... I don't actually have beef with any moderator, although I question some decisions.

What I do find a bit awkward though is the way some members view the mods here like idols, heck even that "Ask the mods anything" thread - what's there to ask? I mean if it was a dev I understand that, you can discuss video games with them which can be very interesting since they work on real games themselves - but mods are just regular people. :shrug:

Anyway, as long as some of the skyrim posters don't end up posting threads in the CD all is good.

[Life long Observer]

I'm certainly not a fan of the cult that seems to have developed around some of the mods. As Fanner said, how can there be three threads worth of things to ask the mods? There also seem to be some double standards going on. I don't think we shouldn't have moderation, just that it should be consistent, and not so heavy-handed.

[Killah Bee]

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I am not going to lie , I agree with most of this statement.
Heck I had a conversation on "the vidya" about our moderators yesterday. Oddly enough we have this topic today.
Then again insulting the non mods is not a very nice thing as well , *cough* *cough* usual throwing up a little spammers coughs up blood. Sorry about that......

[Mason Nevitt]

I missed a detail in my original post: the moderators do a mostly thankless and mostly unpaid job. There are still forum members who think they're paid Bethesda employees. They get a little swag and a free game here and there, but given the amount of time I see some of them here, it probably works out to pennies an hour.

[Sasha Brown]

but given the amount of time I see some of them here, it probably works out to pennies an hour.

Rohugh is always here ready to kick my bum when I say something wrong :bolt:

[Nathan Maughan]

Anyway, as long as some of the skyrim posters don't end up posting threads in the CD all is good.

I think real life is unbalanced and the textures of the rocks outside my house are way too blurry. I'm also disappointed that there don't seem to be any werewolves. I bet what we're seeing is just an alpha build. Can't wait for 21-12-12!

[courtnay]

Issue with the moderators themselves? Not really no. They do a largely thankless job. Seeing as they are individuals they will have traits that some admire and others hate, that all comes down to personal preference.

The rules - in particular the embargo on politics and religion. That's a different story. It does feel overly sanitised here at times and it getting a bit grimy from time to time could be an interesting sight.

[Lance Vannortwick]

I think real life is unbalanced and the textures of the rocks outside my house are way too blurry. I'm also disappointed that there don't seem to be any werewolves. I bet what we're seeing is just an alpha build. Can't wait for 21-12-12!

:P

You forgot about putting in a console remark though, and lowering your punctuation capabilities!

[Roberta Obrien]

The rules - in particular the embargo on politics and religion. That's a different story. It does feel overly sanitised here at times and it getting a bit grimy from time to time could be an interesting sight.

I rarely see objections to this rule from Americans, only from outside. The U.S. is very polarized on these subjects, and I've yet to see a discussion on them that remained civil. So I completely understand why this is in place.

[MISS KEEP UR]

I rarely see objections to this rule from Americans, only from outside. The U.S. is very polarized on these subjects, and I've yet to see a discussion on them that remained civil. So I completely understand why this is in place.

Well foll blown discussions on the topics is one thing. Barely being able to touch upon them in order to drive an interesting discussion on a whole other topic is kind of boring.
I'm getting awfully tired of "what should I play?", "what's your favourite X?" and all the other reoccuring topics that float up every week or so.

[ruCkii]

I have no idea how some of their names got approved :stare: but otherwise I think they keep the forums in order and alive.

[Flutterby]

Well foll blown discussions on the topics is one thing. Barely being able to touch upon them in order to drive an interesting discussion on a whole other topic is kind of boring.
I'm getting awfully tired of "what should I play?", "what's your favourite X?" and all the other reoccuring topics that float up every week or so.

Ya but some people even have a problem with a MLP thread here , heck I don't like the show but if we can't be mature to accept that I highly doubt we can do anything beyond that.

[Krystal Wilson]

Issue with the moderators themselves? Not really no. They do a largely thankless job. Seeing as they are individuals they will have traits that some admire and others hate, that all comes down to personal preference.

The rules - in particular the embargo on politics and religion. That's a different story. It does feel overly sanitised here at times and it getting a bit grimy from time to time could be an interesting sight.

Hicks, the current pro-anti Steam Holy War here on BSF is bad enough.
We don't need flamefest Holy Wars on topics of realworld politics or religion here on BSF. Such flamefests do not make for good, much less intelligent, reading, and the moderators workload in dealing with such would be increased several thousandfold.

Jenifur Charne

[Alexis Acevedo]

To be honest, these forums are a breathe of fresh air. Anybody trolls, flames etc. and it's dealt with.

I was banned once because a sentence I typed was taken out of context and I was accused of calling someone stupid, that annoyed me. But overall, yeah, they do.

[James Wilson]

:P

You forgot about putting in a console remark though, and lowering your punctuation capabilities!

At least real life has spears .

Some of the mods are great, some of the mods I don't care much about, some of them I somewhat dislike. One of them I strongly dislike, but I haven't seen him post in months, so all is well in that department. The mods are obviously not perfect and make mistakes at times, but in general I feel they do a really good job at enforcing the rules. Now, some of those rules are ridiculous, but as far as I know that's not the mods' fault. The only moderator action that I strongly disagree with was when a certain forum member who's name I am not allowed to mention got banned for reasons that I never found out about. This forum is a more boring place without her.

[Alycia Leann grace]

I don't think it has anything to do with being American. Out of all the controversial subjects out there, religion is by far the worst. Politics, while not completely universal, is another subject that, from my experience on the webz, is way to volatile to stay civil for more than two pages.

[renee Duhamel]

Hicks, the current pro-anti Steam Holy War here on BSF is bad enough.
We don't need flamefest Holy Wars on topics of realworld politics or religion here on BSF. Such flamefests do not make for good, much less intelligent, reading, and the moderators workload in dealing with such would be increased several thousandfold.

Jenifur Charne

You know, we can all read your profile name. You don't need to sign your posts.

Anyway, I think if politics and religion were confined to their own threads or something it could make for a really interesting discussion, without it destroying every other thread. Failing that, just being able to mention politics or religion without having your post edited or deleted would be nice.

[Gemma Woods Illustration]

I understand the politics and religion rule perfectly. There are a few branches of fan forums that you could easily talk about these subjects anyways.

[hannaH]

Anyway, I think if politics and religion were confined to their own threads or something it could make for a really interesting discussion, without it destroying every other thread. Failing that, just being able to mention politics or religion without having your post edited or deleted would be nice.

Have you seen the bethesda fan forums topics on that? I don't think after seeing that we can easily talk about those topics.

[Rude_Bitch_420]

You know, we can all read your profile name. You don't need to sign your posts.

Anyway, I think if politics and religion were confined to their own threads or something it could make for a really interesting discussion, without it destroying every other thread. Failing that, just being able to mention politics or religion without having your post edited or deleted would be nice.

That's just it, look what happens when they get mentioned, it's like a drop of blood in shark infested waters, a frenzy immediately decends on some poor sap that just so happens to believe in something other than a tea cup or spagetti monster, which are the only defenses ever brought up on these forums, further making the topic pointless.

[kelly thomson]

They're nice to have, keep the place clean and in order.