I think it's funny that this thread came up the day after I tried tracking down any traces of my online identity using http://www.paterva.com/web5/ (There is exactly 1 thing publically accessible I was able to find and that was due to my college which I can't do anything about)

They ould say that. Facebook cna go [censored] itself. Enjoy people putting on a mask becuase people will judge them. I dont think anyone would show who they really are on FB, I dont know any Bronies on FB, but they are everywhere on the internet.

This. If their wasn't anonymity on the internet I wouldn't use it.

lol, what a silly silly statement.

This woman should be banned from the internet.


Lady, should you by any reason happen to read this, let me tell you; I'll stop being anynomous the day Freedom Of Speech becomes absolute, in the free world and on the internet.


I don't see that happening very soon, so shaddap please.

Wait the bigger question is:

Who is the hell is Zuckerburg and why should i value her opinion?

Zuckerburg - Sounds like some kind of failing fast food chain

Lol anonymity on the internet is a joke and what little bit we have she wants taken away? Man how stupid is this woman I mean seriously I get into a fight with a troll I don't want them leaving the ol burning bag on my door step. With a person's name I can find out where they live, how far away they are from me, transit routes, and get aerial views of their house *Thanks google". :rolleyes:

Anonymity on the Internet is a joke?

Really? (insert link to place-that-shall-not-be-named here)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet

And if you had my name, you'd only be able to find one thing publicly, after which you'd have to hire a private eye to get at my school records to track me down

Oh thank God. I thought I was the only one who didn't know who this woman is. :cryvaultboy:

She is Randi Zuckerberg, the sister of Mark Zuckerberg, who founded Facebook. She works for his company as marketing director.

I value anonymity as an ideal, but, personally, I don't have much of it. You can probably find out who I am in real life in about 10 minutes, and that's OK with me. The things I've done as "Lady Nerevar" are things that can get me a job in the real world, so connecting my real name with my online alias is a given.

Mark is a bad businessman. He gave her a job for being a relative, she seems to know [censored] all. What a terrible business move.

Agreed, anonymity has no place on the internet.

and, just so DEFRON doesn't try to murder me; when I say "internet", I am of course not talking about TOR or Freenet.



It's not legal (in some countries) to hide your identity in public by using a mask, why should it be any different on the internet? Don't I have the right to know whom I'm talking too online? Or to know who sent me an email?

If people were forced to use their real identities online then I'm pretty sure that internet hate crimes, bullying, spamming and trolling would almost disappear. People would also probably be nicer to each other. How is that a bad thing?

I'm not saying that people should be forced to reveal their identities on forums like this one, they could just use normal usernames, but they should be forced to use their real identities when they sign up.

...She mad? trollface.jpg

Um, on a serious note, anonymity, while it does allow people to be inconsiderate pricks to each other with little to no consequence, is extremely important for personal security, and I'd rather it stay.

Personal security?

:rolleyes:


So what if someone knows your real name? What could someone possibly do with that information?


Now I'm not being insensitive, and this is not pointed at you personally DEFRON, but;

If someone gets physically harmed because of something they did online... then they probably deserved it. It's the same in 'real life', if you act like a dike and you insult some people then you'll probably get beaten up one day.

Solution to the problem: Act online as you would in real life.

What ?

I garuntee some people would get bullied for what they say on the internet if people knew it was them. E.g Bronies, what about the people into rule 34 or some other weird [censored] ? You really think a name would make those problems vanish ? People arent anonymous in school, they get bullied for whatever reason, race, weight, parents, name, hair, etc. Sorry but people losing anonymity wwould change nothing.

I'm talking about more than just names. If everyone knew each other online well enough, there would be more serious problems than "cyber bullying" to worry about.

So you want the internet to be a place where anyone can say anything without any consequences?



Go on...

People saying things is better than people doing things. Imagine those same people getting on somebody's nerves enough online that they'd wish bodily harm on them. Well, without anonymity, and if they were butthurt enough, they could easily track them down and commit a crime. It's bad enough we have hackers who do [censored] like that, let alone everybody else.

Did I say that ?

There is a difference between here and that site. Yet You dont know me and I dont know you. I sya something, I get punished.

1. I would be the exact same if everybody here knew my name/address etc.

2. Pedophiles would have a field day.

I don't think anyone would agree to give up their anonymity on the internet.
I operate with different levels of anonymity on various forums depending on the community.


3 minutes to be more precise, miss D

I disagree

You obviously fail to realize that you're not the only one who has to reveal his / her identity. Everyone else has to as well and those people who are unstable enough to physically harm someone over something they said are going to think twice about it because they also had to reveal their identities.

There are a lot of people in real life who are extremely annoying and there are probably a lot of people who would want to hurt them but they usually don't do it since they can't get away with it. It would be the same online.

Removing anonymity from the internet would remove the gap between the online world and real life. People would have to behave as they would in real life.

Let me ask you a question; would you trust someone who walked around with a mask on and used an alias? What if he started spreading rumours about you that weren't true? Should he get away with it because of his "right to privacy"?


Punished? Am I punishing you because I questioned something you said? No, this is just a debate, you present your arguments and I present mine. It just so happens that I disagree with you which I why I may have sounded a bit harsh

I'd rather not leave things up to chance like that, though. As for the question, I wouldn't. However, this is the internet. If you're worrying about rumors being spread about you online now, how is that going to change if people have to use their real identities? Call me crazy, but I think rumormongers exist even in real life. :shrug:

Pretty much. Freedom of speech, especially on the internet, is very important. If someone comes along shouting praises to Adolf Hitler or Stalin, or talking about how many baby puppies they'd like to murder, they are perfectly in their right to say so. I am also in my right to vehemently disagree, and I will use that right to its fullest if I am so compelled.

But worse can happen than simple namecalling and debating on the internet if that layer of anonymity is removed. I'm not going to shout who I am and what I believe to the entire world, because I'd get my ass kicked by anyone who feels strongly enough against me. There are a lot of crazy people out there, and all it takes is for them to figure out who you are. If I were to steal a piece of loot in WoW, for instance, and someone who wanted it lost it to me, it's hard to tell how homicidal they're feeling on that particular day, and how far of a drive your house is to theirs. Perhaps how mistreated female members of gaming communities can be at times. Women are a lot less likely to be vocal or revealing of their gender in online gaming communities because sixism is a very real problem.

On the internet, I should be able to say or do things anonymously, not to take advantage of and harass others without fear of reprisal, but to protect myself from greater harassment against me. We are all on equal footing, and that's how it should stay.

Identity theft, sixual assault, sixual predation, assualt, premeditated murder, harrassment, home invasion, armed robbery...

There is also no guarantee that the person whom you converse with online is actually that person. We'd see a rise in identity theft for the purpose of creating online accounts.
I am extremely selective about who I share information with, where I share it, how I share it.
The world is full of crazy mofo's, and those with less than honorable intentions. Proditus put it well.