my archery thief was all excited to go all Van Helsing through Skyrim, only to have his little Bosmer hopes dashed when I realized Don Mattrick paid for a delay on the PC version and ruined my week.

+1 Agree!

You get it earlier because the slimiest nastiest sleaziest suit in the video game industry paid Bethesda for temporary exclusivity. Just like they paid EA/Bioware for the Mass Effect DLC to come out on 360 first. It's a dirty move, and is just one of the many reasons why Microsoft is the cancer that is killing the video games industry.

Let's not forget that the PC version of Dawnguard entered beta first. This is not a thing of it being READY for the 360 first. This is marketing bullcrap, engineered by suits over at Microsoft. I can't blame Bethesda for taking the money, but I can blame Microsoft for being the cancer offering it and pulling these stunts. PC tended to get patches first because they were ready first on PC, and it was easier to hotfix a problem found on the PC version than either console version, often if PC players "guinea pig"'ed a patch they found bugs that were fixed by the time the patch went live for consoles.

Arato, I agree that Microsoft's E3 presentations for last two years have been embarrassingly awful. (This year, in particular, was cringe-city). However, I don't think Microsoft are killing the gaming industry. Actually, I think Xbox has lifted the games industry to a new level. They have a huge install base, and that base is a large part of the reason games like Skyrim can be made. I mean, Skyrim told almost 3 million units on Xbox 360 - in http://www.dailytech.com/The+Elder+Scrolls+V+Skyrim+Tops+34+Million+Retail+Sales+in+First+2+Days/article23293.htm alone. 14% of the sales went to PC. Why do Bethesda work with Microsoft so heavily? Money. And the platform.

Please explain why it's so dirty? Dirty moves hurt people, how have you been injured by this?

Also, please explain how microsoft, or anything really, is "killing" the video game industry when video games are a larger, more popular industry now than they've ever been? Video games have almost as much money as blockbuster movies these days, something that never could have been dreamed of 10 years ago.

How in the world is that a dead industry by any measure? I can think of many successful industries that only dream of closing in on Hollywood.

I see that you are upset. I just don't understand what you are all upset about. There's no sand out here.

All i ask is for Bethesda to at least give a release date for the other platforms. However in my opinion it's unacceptable if it's not released after exactly 30 days.

No, it sold 3.4 million units in retail in two days across all platforms. Get your facts straight.

Again, you're going by retail sales only, which is skewed in the console's favor as a majority of PC game sales are done digitally, particularly over Steam, ESPECIALLY since all PC copies of Skyrim required Steam as Steamworks was the DRM for the game. Valve however does not release how many copies of the game sold. All we know is vague figures like "fastest selling of all time" and the fact that it had hundreds of thousands of people playing it simultaneously around the clock, far more than were playing any other game over Steam.

It is quite possible that the PC version outsold either console when digital copies are considered, I'm almost certain it outsold the PS3 version.

I will be waiting most patiently for the PC version. Maybe it is better to wait cause from what i saw the expansion looks a little buggy (Guy falling through ground at castle or something in video) . So im hoping within the next month Xbox players will find all these bugs, problems and beth will fix them so pc, ps3 can get a relatively less buggy release.... maybe. I know each console, platform have their own bug problems but at least for the next month beth will have time to crosscheck and try to root out bugs hopefully and will be aware of what bugs xbox users find etc.

Still wish we didnt have to wait but it is what it is i will just patiently wait til its arrival on pc. Going to try my best not to spoil it for myself by watching others play haha.

Who cares? I wish you both would stop arguing over figures that neither of you know. The %% of sales has nothing to do with whether or not a waiting game is fair practice.

There's nothing wrong with Microsoft buying exclusivity, says I. It doesn't hurt anyone.

It's a dirty move because right now Bethesda is literally just sitting on the PC version of Dawnguard and probably the PS3 version as well. There's no technical reason why they aren't also released, it's just a slimeball at Microsoft is the sole reason. That does hurt me as a long time fan of the series and a PC gamer. I've been a Bethesda fan since Daggerfall, and they turn their favoritism away from the fans that put them on the map and instead get in bed with Don Mattrick. It's disgusting. It's the proverbial slap in the face.

I hope a release date comes soon.

What put them on the map is money, friend. And not having access to a video game is not an injury by any stretch of any reasonable person's imagination. I can't believe you honestly sit there and tell me that you are hurt because you can't play your game for a month. Who raised you?

But that's not the point. There's no such thing as loyalty or favoritism when you talk about an industry. Bethesda doesn't know you, and they don't care about you, or me. They care about money, which is the same thing they've wanted since the start. When you played those older games and gave them money, they loved you just as much as when you play new games and give them money.

That's why I can't ever agree with you. Bethesda isn't a person. They aren't your friend. They are company that does business and that's it.

That's not slimy or corrupt or despicable or anything negative. It's the exact same thing any company would do, and it's the same thing any person would do if they were in charge.

Arato, I realised my mistake after posting and corrected it.

I have to say, that regardless of anything else accepting what amounts to a bribe from MS to deliberately discriminate against parts of their user base is a scumbag move and always will be, I will be giving serious consideration as to if I want to give them my money now. I was hugely excited to get the first bit of DLC for what is one of the best games I have played in recent years, however upon learning that PS3 & PC users are being discriminated against by Bethesda I am less excited and more angry. I know that my anger means the sum total of nothing to them and I know they don't care what I think about their way of doing business, which means my only recourse is to vote with my wallet, so yes I will be considering very carefully if I want to give them my cash for this or do I go and buy a different game and play that instead.

What put them on the map was making PC RPG's.

I'm hurt because I know that that SLIMEBALL over at Microsoft holds the power to prevent me from playing a game I want to play on the platform of my choice.

Go look at a picture of Don Mattrick right now, just google him, watch videos of him, and tell me that's not slimey or corrupt or despicable. He is the living embodiment of the worst parts of the industry.

You know, while I want this DLC, I preferred larger expansion packs over them, Microsoft popularized the DLC model that we're stuck with now, which has been further perverted. Now in many cases you don't get the full game anymore, day 1 DLC, DLC that's already on the disk and you pay a premium to unlock. Xbox Live is a service you pay a premium for on top of your normal internet services, and now Microsoft wants to pile advertising on xbox live on top of that? Tell me how that's not cancer.

BTW, Microsoft's business practices with Xbox live are also one of the key reasons you will never get Mods. Todd Howard discussed a desire for the ability to bring Skyrim mods to console players, and yeah, that'd be great if it was possible to port them over.. but microsoft? Free user made content? Downloaded over Xbox Live? No freaking way. They want to charge for things like that. It's the same reason why Valve doesn't update Team Fortress 2 on the consoles, because Microsoft wants to charge for what Valve wants to give away for free, see Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 followup campaigns. 360 version you had to pay for them, PC got them for free.

This just really irks me to no end. The fact that there are a ton of PS3 and PC users waiting because M$ decides to strut its exclusivity, is just, I have no words to describe how infurated I am right now. I just hope they at least give us PC/PS3 users a release date soon.

My brother was saying it could be months before we get the DLC. He said he had to wait over 6 months for the first two Fallout3 DLC's.

I hope they put out a release date soon too, to be clear. PC and PS3 users should be playing, too. I also hope Bethesda's next PS3 game actually, you know, works properly.

However, suggesting Don Mattrick is corrupt and throwing words like cancer around isn't entirely helpful. He's not corrupt. Microsoft have money. Expect the Xbox 720 and PS4 wars to be equally distruptive to certain platform bases - and to also open the scope of these kind of games, because more $ == better budgetted game development. It's difficult to believe Oblivion and Skyrim are running on the same hardware on Xbox, and that's because Bethesda had more money.

(PS: Fallout New Vegas DLC was 2 months apart from Xbox to other platforms).

Only the first one Dead Money, the other 3 were released at the same time for all systems

Aye. Microsoft have a 2 DLC exclusivity deal with Bethesda Game Studios for Skyrim.

30 Days; It's On the Skyrim Dawnguard WIKI.

The 30 days most likely starts when the FIGS gets released.

They haven't been confirming this at all. They say nothing about it. Dawnguard hasn't even been announced for other platforms.

Hehe, think of it. It may not even come out on any other platform. That would svck I bet.

This is mainly what people are upset about. If they gave a release date it would be awesome and might calm down some of the hate.