attention! saves arent missing!

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:39 am

Almost every time Ive tested the missing auto/quicksave bug, Ive discovered the save is not actually gone and your hours of work were not in vain.

Go to C:\Users\"User Name"\Documents\My Games\FalloutNV\Saves

Here you will see your auto/quick saves and any hard saves. Now if your one of the lucky ones, you should see 2 auto-saves and 2 quick-saves. And THATS RIGHT! One of these is all your hard work. The ones ending in .bak are your correct ones. Simply rename it and delete the .bak. Feel free to delete the other 2 ones that have so frustratingly overwritten your hours of play, giving you a mini-heart attack. After deleting the .bak, you should discover your correct auto/quick saves in the load screen, safely able to continue playing from your original position.

Hope I got to people on time before they auto/quick saved again. Good Luck out there guys!

EDIT: I did put almost btw. About 10% of the time, the file was not actually saved. Sorry bout the guys who lost their work =/
Also, if you auto/quick saved again AFTER originally losing your auto/quick save, you have made a NEW original, and your .bak will be what you just auto/quick saved. So this is a rescue attempt at people who have yet to begin playing all over again, not those who tried again and ultimately wrote over their original progress.

EDIT: the only way to permanently delete your old saves is to permanently play in offline mode. At least till they patch it.
However, this only works with steam-bought digital downloads.
This may also be the reason why the .bak trick isnt working for everyone.
For those it has worked for, could you please state if you were using a steam digital download or a hardcopy?

FIX: With my suggestion, you MUST change the .bak file to .fos once the game is already started up. or you will just overwrite the file you just fixed. So simply alt-tab while the game is already up. I apoligize for this one mistake and hope it helps.

FIX: Now to stop this problem from happening ever again. I, myself use this fix and its perfect. I dont take credit for it. Lady Nibenay was the first I saw post it so I give credit to her.

To those that are still having the save issue just open Notepad, copy the code below (putting your steam uid number in place of [EDITME] which can be found in Steam\userdata) and when you save it, set the type as "All Files" (as opposed to text document) and save it as any filename ending in .bat . Then put that file in the directory where FalloutNV.exe (for me this is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas). Now, when you double-click this file a small script will run (you'll see a command prompt window open briefly) and the Fallout will start just as if you had clicked the shortcut. Then you can create a desktop shortcut to that file and even change the icon and it will function just like a shortcut. This has completely resolved my problems with auto and quick saves, and you don't even have to turn off steam cloud.

Make the following bat file:

cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
cd userdata
cd [EDITME]
cd 22380
cd remote
del *.fos
del *.ini
cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
cd ..
cd steamapps
cd common
cd fallout new vegas
falloutnv.exe


I suggest the following batch file instead. It is smaller, and more importantly, less prone to deleting invalid files. I know that it is unlikely that *.fos might exist in some random directory, but ini is more than possible. I've done a lot of dos work back when there was no windows, and it is very bad to assume that all directories existed, and that you are in the right directory when you start to modify/delete files

The first two lines will only delete files from that specific directory, and the last line is shortened because if we've saved the file at the path you suggested, we are already in the directory to start the executable.

Note i haven't tested this, as I am at work, so please test first if you decide to use/post

del "..\..\..\userdata\[editme]\22380\remote\*.fos"
del "..\..\..\userdata\[editme]\22380\remote\*.ini"
falloutnv.exe
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:27 am

I suggest the following batch file instead. It is smaller, and more importantly, less prone to deleting invalid files. I know that it is unlikely that *.fos might exist in some random directory, but ini is more than possible.


Yours is slightly better in that it won't delete anything if you run it from the wrong directory, but it still suffers from the same problem that it must be run from a specific place (or at least a specific depth) relative to the userdata folder. Why would you put ..\..\..\ at the start of a path? Just specify the path absolutely and tell users how to fix it. Then it can be run from anywhere! I already did this on page 4 of this thread.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1122859-attention-saves-arent-missing/page__st__60__p__16522609&#entry16522609


@echo offsetlocal set steamID=555555555set steamFolder="Y:\Steam"del "%steamFolder%\userdata\%steamID%\22380\remote\*.fos"del "%steamFolder%\userdata\%steamID%\22380\remote\*.ini""%steamFolder%\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas\FalloutNV.exe"

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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:31 am

Here's an easier fix than the batch file. In the ...Steam/userdata.../22380 folder, delete the contents of the /remote folder, then turn off Write Access (for all users and administrators) for the /22380 folder in the Properties/Security tab. That way, no new autosaves or quicksaves get backed up there, and there is nothing for your saves to revert to.

I've been testing this all evening, and it seems to be a reliable solution.

Edit: I haven't lost any manual saves, so I can't say what's happening there. It may be an issue of overwriting manual saves (perhaps that causes a backup to the remote folder), so maybe use new slots and don't overwrite manual saves until they sort this out?


I was just coming here to post this. I discovered the exact same resolution after playing with it for hours this morning.

The autosave that is initially created in your mygames folder writes to the remote folder. From there, the remote folder doesn't get updated with future autosaves and when you relaunch the game, the file in the remote folder gets written back to the mygames folder, overwriting your new autosave. If there isn't a file in the remote folder, there's nothing to overwrite and your future autosaves stick.

I just denied write permissions to the remote folder to the "CREATOR OWNER" and "TrustedInstaller" accounts after deleting the autosave from the remote folder. She's right as rain now. Autosaves are sticking.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:04 am

"Here's an easier fix than the batch file. In the ...Steam/userdata.../22380 folder, delete the contents of the /remote folder, then turn off Write Access (for all users and administrators) for the /22380 folder in the Properties/Security tab. That way, no new autosaves or quicksaves get backed up there, and there is nothing for your saves to revert to."

This method worked for me. Quick and Autosaves work fine after this.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:41 am

I just denied write permissions to the remote folder.


I got caught up in creating fun and exciting batch files. Denying write permission to the remote folder really is the easiest way to solve the problem. It's just a little tricky for novices, I suppose.

Here are some screenshots to help those who don't understand how to do this:

Note: you might need administrator access to do this. If you are not an admin on your PC, ask someone who is to do this for you.


Step 1: Delete all fos and ini files in the remote folder. These are what it is using to copy over your newer saves. Delete them this one time and they will not come back after we change the permissions.


Step 2: Open the properties of the remote folder by clicking on it, then right clicking and choosing Properties.

http://i.imgur.com/TFfWr.jpg


Step 3: Click on the security tab. If you have Windows 7 (Or vista, I think) you will see an Edit button. Click it. On XP, you can just go to step 4.

http://i.imgur.com/IGPfk.jpg


Step 4: In the list of users and groups at the top, choose either your login name or the Users group. If you see neither, post a reply and someone can help you out. In the box at the bottom, check the checkbox under the deny column in the Write row. You may need to scroll down a little. It will warn you about using the Deny feature, just hit OK.

http://i.imgur.com/0ms41.jpg

Then hit OK on this and the first dialog box and you are all set. No either you or the whole Users group (depending on what you chose) cannot write to this folder.

Feel free to copy this to the first post.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:35 pm

a new, safer fix has been added to this page.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:00 am

I wanna say thank you to Saner and Lady Nibenay for sharing their fixes to this inexcusable save problem! I ,for one, appreciate you two helping many of us through this. I know it hasn't worked out well for everyone and I don't blame ppl being pi$$ed off. I was one of the lucky ones who had a hard save that was relatively recent when the game crashed and I found out the quick/auto save bug. I only lost about an hour. Shame on Obi/Beth for putting out a game with such a crippling flaw. Funny how two gamers (with nothing invested in the quality of the game) have been loads more help then any of the devs so far.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:10 am

To those that are still having the save issue, make the .bat file as described on the first page of this thread. Just open Notepad, copy the code from the post below (putting your steam uid number in place of [EDITME]) and when you save it, set the type as "All Files" (as opposed to text document) and save it as any filename ending in .bat . Then put that file in the directory where FalloutNV.exe (for me this is C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\fallout new vegas). Now, when you double-click this file a small script will run (you'll see a command prompt window open briefly) and the Fallout will start just as if you had clicked the shortcut. Then you can create a desktop shortcut to that file and even change the icon and it will function just like a shortcut. This has completely resolved my problems with auto and quick saves, and you don't even have to turn off steam cloud.


not only did that not work for me but i cant find and delete that file.. i can save over it still so i know it still exists, but i cant find the damn thing..
though i also tried 2 other methods but i cant seem to remember cause im too frustrated to feel like thinking about it.. one thing i did notice is that every time i did one of those fix methods.. as soon as i start game steam tells me it just updated something for fallout..

so i think im just gonna wait for a patch.. even if that causes me to permanently lose my 8 hours of gameplay, at least ill be able to play it again..
(god i hope the patch will give me back my lastest save.. i had done so much stuff in that 8 hours... like going to every corner of the map discovering [censored] and losing some one of a kind weapons..) really makes me want to use a super sledge on someones face
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:58 am

khaos, try the new method on the OP
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:57 am

not only did that not work for me but i cant find and delete that file.. i can save over it still so i know it still exists, but i cant find the damn thing..
though i also tried 2 other methods but i cant seem to remember cause im too frustrated to feel like thinking about it.. one thing i did notice is that every time i did one of those fix methods.. as soon as i start game steam tells me it just updated something for fallout..

so i think im just gonna wait for a patch.. even if that causes me to permanently lose my 8 hours of gameplay, at least ill be able to play it again..
(god i hope the patch will give me back my lastest save.. i had done so much stuff in that 8 hours... like going to every corner of the map discovering [censored] and losing some one of a kind weapons..) really makes me want to use a super sledge on someones face



I've read all the patch things, and I appreciate them. I am too stupid to do anything without telephone support involving batch files.

I've also read Big Beth's post labelled yesterday.... about it being fixed.

Last night, I had no problems. Awesome game. I was reading about PS3 and Xbox being completely fubared, with resets every two hours, etc. I was thankful I had a PC copy.

Until today when I logged in and saw I'd lost 5 hours of work. I assumed it was because my laptop was unplugged and perhaps corrupted a file. I was a bit upset, but figured I could do things a bit differently anyway.

Started a new storyline from where it left off and resumed. When I was in the middle of a huge firefight, rushing for the admin's office to kill someone, WHAMMO. Crash to desktop.

No bigge, it autosaved 3 minutes ago when I left the Visitor's Center. WRONG!!!!!! Once again, I'm back where it picked up this morning.

And Big Beth said it was all fixed YESTERDAY??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Mental note to self..... never get Beth software until it's been out a LONG time to avoid problems. I've done that to all other PC games, like Star Trek Online. I think the year wait is up for them, I might get it soon.

But it's my fault for getting excited about FO:NV and forgetting my rule.

Shame on you, Beth.

And one thing I saw no one mention in this thread is the inability to do lots of saves on hardcoe mode. So I only had 2/1000. Saving them for big things. Now, it appears, every 15 minutes is a big thing. I'm going to blow through those 1000 saves FAST. Thanks Beth.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:23 am

oh theres a save limit on hardcoe mode? ouch
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:49 am

bump for those continuing to creat new threads on the issue
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:08 am

Lost all of my saves. Tried a few of the methods to recover them listed in this thread and none seemed to have worked. Luckily I haven't gotten far so starting over isn't so bad. I just hope a patch will be available soon.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:14 am

oh theres a save limit on hardcoe mode? ouch


LOL, no there's not a save limit. The game can only handle tracking 1000 save files at once. Go delete some old saves and the XX/1000 will go down.

So they posted an update today that supposedly fixes the quicksave/autosave issue. It now simply never saves anything to the "remote" folder, so problem solved. I just tested it. Cloud saving is now disabled completely.

A fun side effect of this update is now the changes I made to my ini file to eliminate mouse acceleration in the menus no longer works! How the heck that got changed in an update to fix game saves, I have no idea. The mouse flies all over the place when I move it on the title screen and in the Pip-Boy. I cannot *stand* mouse acceleration. Thankfully it does not occur in the game while looking around with the mouse. If it did, I would be seriously raging. :) My hate for mouse acceleration is rather extreme. It's bad enough in the menus, but when trying to shoot at enemies it would completely ruin the game. Mouse acceleration is why I only played Dead Space for about 30 minutes before I uninstalled it.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:00 am

Thanks again to Marlock and Lefty for saving my sanity and the original 10 hours of gameplay that i couldn't find last night until coming here. It's odd to me though that two people just trying to play a new game came out with help before the games authors could but I do hope that they can manage to send out a fix soon so that we all don't have to do continual hard saves for the rest of the game. I played for about 6 more hours last night without a glitch except for having to stop once in a while to do the hard save and I have 2 GTX SC version 480's in SLI and the cards are OCed to 850/1700/2000 and I also have been using the nvidia control panel in the 3D settings for Fallout New Vegas and have the power management mode set to "prefer maximum performance just in case anyone with an nvidia 400 series graphics card is having issues with crashes or cycling core clock speeds. I am also still having those bright circular flashes all throughout the game, characters disappearing here and there but other wise everything seems to be fine. I am set to ultra high settings on an Acer 1920 x 1080 resolution. AND, as I mentioned earlier my version of the game is from a disk.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:02 am

^ what about me? lol
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:31 am

LOL, no there's not a save limit. The game can only handle tracking 1000 save files at once. Go delete some old saves and the XX/1000 will go down.

So they posted an update today that supposedly fixes the quicksave/autosave issue. It now simply never saves anything to the "remote" folder, so problem solved. I just tested it. Cloud saving is now disabled completely.

A fun side effect of this update is now the changes I made to my ini file to eliminate mouse acceleration in the menus no longer works! How the heck that got changed in an update to fix game saves, I have no idea. The mouse flies all over the place when I move it on the title screen and in the Pip-Boy. I cannot *stand* mouse acceleration. Thankfully it does not occur in the game while looking around with the mouse. If it did, I would be seriously raging. :) My hate for mouse acceleration is rather extreme. It's bad enough in the menus, but when trying to shoot at enemies it would completely ruin the game. Mouse acceleration is why I only played Dead Space for about 30 minutes before I uninstalled it.



What fix? My game is still saving to Cloud, and there's been no patch since the 20th. I stand corrected, some patch is downloading as I type this.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:03 am

THank you so much for this fix. this helped me recover my first 10 hours of gameplay. So from then on, i started using my manual save through console however, the game crashed while i was playing but thankfully, i manually saved the game 3 minutes before. but the problem is, i cant load any of my most recent autosave/manual saves. i get stuck at the loading screen and the game crashes "FalloutNV has stopped working". I have already passed the quest come fly with me a LOOOONG time ago so i know that is not the problem. can anybody help?
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:31 am

bump
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:08 pm

Do not be alarmed. That large thing in the sky is not the ship loaded with ghouls over your town, it's my PC!!!

Got today's patch which was supposed to fix this crap and began to play. I have been in the habit of manually saving since I found out about this bug. When I tried to load the save I did last night, saves 16 thru 21 would not load and the game would crash with the "FalloutNV has stopped working" message. I had to go back to save 15 which is where you have to take the control circuit back to the rocket facility. So i pressed on and got back to where I had been last night. I was just in the irradiated camp in the SW corner Camp S something and died because I wasn't watching my radiation sickness. When my body hit the floor the game crashed with "FalloutNV has stopped working". I tried loading the autosave and the manual save I had done and both would not load and crash the game. I have just deleted the .fos file and modified the write permission on the /22380/remote directory for all group and users. Gonna go back and head into that hell-hole of a rocket facility for the bazillionth friggin time. Thanks for the information. Here's hoping it works for me. Cheers!
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:09 pm

Do not be alarmed. That large thing in the sky is not the ship loaded with ghouls over your town, it's my PC!!!

Got today's patch which was supposed to fix this crap and began to play. I have been in the habit of manually saving since I found out about this bug. When I tried to load the save I did last night, saves 16 thru 21 would not load and the game would crash with the "FalloutNV has stopped working" message. I had to go back to save 15 which is where you have to take the control circuit back to the rocket facility. So i pressed on and got back to where I had been last night. I was just in the irradiated camp in the SW corner Camp S something and died because I wasn't watching my radiation sickness. When my body hit the floor the game crashed with "FalloutNV has stopped working". I tried loading the autosave and the manual save I had done and both would not load and crash the game. I have just deleted the .fos file and modified the write permission on the /22380/remote directory for all group and users. Gonna go back and head into that hell-hole of a rocket facility for the bazillionth friggin time. Thanks for the information. Here's hoping it works for me. Cheers!



Shut down Steam and restart it. It'll download the patch released today/yesterday and install it. Steam wouldn't download mine automatically, I had to restart it myself, almost as if Steam is reluctant to give up it's control freak nature and monitor everything about how we play and when/where we save.

Can we say.... NO PRIVACY?!?!?!?!
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:27 am

Damn! Just played for a bit and did manual saves after making the modification to the write permission. I decided to exit the game to be safe and come back in. Low and behold all my manual saves and the auto save would crash when I tried to load them. So I decided to uninstall the game and redownload it to see if that would help. When I select delete local files form Steam, the wheel turns for a few seconds but nothing happens. I went to Control Panel/programs and the game is not listed for me to uninstall that way either. I'm afraid to manually delete it cause I'm not sure if Steam will now it's not on computer and not allow me to download it again. Losing my mind!
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:15 am

These game breaking glitches are crazy... Im looking into the "load save and crash" bug now. Ill let you guys know if I find anything.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:29 am

dont work for me i just lost 10H of game play on my auto\quick and hard save in ncr Camp McCarran
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:40 pm

I think one of the files dictating how the game is saved isn't saving it under the correct format. still looking in. sorry if i dont find anything =/
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