attention! saves arent missing!

Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:03 am

Almost every time Ive tested the missing auto/quicksave bug, Ive discovered the save is not actually gone and your hours of work were not in vain.

Go to C:\Users\"User Name"\Documents\My Games\FalloutNV\Saves

Here you will see your auto/quick saves and any hard saves. Now if your one of the lucky ones, you should see 2 auto-saves and 2 quick-saves. And THATS RIGHT! One of these is all your hard work. The ones ending in .bak are your correct ones. Simply rename it and delete the .bak. Feel free to delete the other 2 ones that have so frustratingly overwritten your hours of play, giving you a mini-heart attack. After deleting the .bak, you should discover your correct auto/quick saves in the load screen, safely able to continue playing from your original position.

Hope I got to people on time before they auto/quick saved again. Good Luck out there guys!

EDIT: I did put almost btw. About 10% of the time, the file was not actually saved. Sorry bout the guys who lost their work =/
Also, if you auto/quick saved again AFTER originally losing your auto/quick save, you have made a NEW original, and your .bak will be what you just auto/quick saved. So this is a rescue attempt at people who have yet to begin playing all over again, not those who tried again and ultimately wrote over their original progress.

EDIT: the only way to permanently delete your old saves is to permanently play in offline mode. At least till they patch it.
However, this only works with steam-bought digital downloads.
This may also be the reason why the .bak trick isnt working for everyone.
For those it has worked for, could you please state if you were using a steam digital download or a hardcopy?

FIX: With my suggestion, you MUST change the .bak file to .fos once the game is already started up. or you will just overwrite the file you just fixed. So simply alt-tab while the game is already up. I apoligize for this one mistake and hope it helps.

FIX: Now to stop this problem from happening ever again. A new fix then the original I had has now been posted. Ive tested it again, and for now it is a bit easier as well as safer for your system.

I, myself use this fix and its perfect. I dont take credit for it. lefty666 Is the first I saw post this as well as ElusiveByte adding a tep by step.

Here's an easier fix than the batch file. In the ...Steam/userdata.../22380 folder, delete the contents of the /remote folder, then turn off Write Access (for all users and administrators) for the /22380 folder in the Properties/Security tab. That way, no new autosaves or quicksaves get backed up there, and there is nothing for your saves to revert to.

Note: you might need administrator access to do this. If you are not an admin on your PC, ask someone who is to do this for you.


Step 1: Delete all fos and ini files in the remote folder. These are what it is using to copy over your newer saves. Delete them this one time and they will not come back after we change the permissions.


Step 2: Open the properties of the remote folder by clicking on it, then right clicking and choosing Properties.

http://i.imgur.com/TFfWr.jpg


Step 3: Click on the security tab. If you have Windows 7 (Or vista, I think) you will see an Edit button. Click it. On XP, you can just go to step 4.

http://i.imgur.com/IGPfk.jpg


Step 4: In the list of users and groups at the top, choose either your login name or the Users group. If you see neither, post a reply and someone can help you out. In the box at the bottom, check the checkbox under the deny column in the Write row. You may need to scroll down a little. It will warn you about using the Deny feature, just hit OK.

http://i.imgur.com/0ms41.jpg

Then hit OK on this and the first dialog box and you are all set. No either you or the whole Users group (depending on what you chose) cannot write to this folder.
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Matt Bee
 
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:22 pm

You are my goddamned hero man all my backup saves I did manually would just cause the game to crash you saved me 10 hours of game time thanks a bunch also someone should sticky this or something.
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Laura Tempel
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:23 am

wow u r awsome saved me from throwing something at my computer big ups to you
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Stephanie I
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:38 am

Big ups to saner50!!

Mods, sticky this info, STAT.
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Amanda savory
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:41 am

I'm somewhat lucky I guess, never running into this bug.
Of course, I make plenty of normal save games, and leave the auto-saves and quick-saves alone mostly.
Auto-save has helped me before in games.

So,is it the auto-saves and quick-saves that are disappearing only, or all saves? If it's the former, use normal saves after the auto-save/quick-save to get around the issue.
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Heather Kush
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:27 am

Tried and no luck,


Had the game crash and two hours worth of saves gone down the drain. Yes both hard saves and Auto/Quick reverted or were deleted. Has happened twice now.

Both times it happens on the road past Nipton. Bout ready to give up on the game.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:28 am

Tried and no luck,


Had the game crash and two hours worth of saves gone down the drain. Yes both hard saves and Auto/Quick reverted or were deleted. Has happened twice now.

Both times it happens on the road past Nipton. Bout ready to give up on the game.


Same with me unfortunately. Both my FOS and my FOS.BAK were the same thing. Darnit, I can't play all this again.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:00 am

I know the only way to circumvent this error is to manually every so often exit the game normally so the game exits properly. I have put in about an hour at a time and when the game is exited properly there is no issue but a long seesion no matter how often you save is in danger if the game crashes. Obsidian/gamesas needs to check this out.

Morrowind/Oblivion/ Fallout 3 were notorious for doing weird things with your files/settings if the game crashed. Such as reverting your plugins settings etc.
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Jose ordaz
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:34 am

I just had an instance of a quicksave going back several hours of gameplay. I know I made many quicksaves since that one, so I don't understand.
This happened after a crash, and when relaunching the game, steam announced that it had finished downloading the caravan pack. Is steam tracking saves as well?
Edit: it kind of messed with me, since the Old and New saves were both made in the same location (saved upon arriving at a quick travel location.)
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 pm

Dude I love you. I was just raging hard because I lost 5 hours of game play. This needs to get fixed asap
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Greg Swan
 
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:48 pm

As i stated, Hard save more often and only play for an hour or so at a time. Seems to work for me until i get involved in a quest line and CTD and lose every inch of progress i made.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:55 am

Yes, steam is tracking saves.

Make the following bat file:

cd ..cd ..cd ..cd userdatacd [EDITME]cd 22380cd remotedel *.fosdel *.inicd ..cd ..cd ..cd ..cd steamappscd commoncd fallout new vegasfalloutnv.exe


replace [EDITME] with your steam uid number, which you'll find in steam\userdata. Save this .bat file in your fallout new vegas directory, inside steam\steamapps\common, and run it like you would a game shortcut--every time you want to play. Your quick and autosaves will be fine.
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His Bella
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:20 pm

This needs to be fixed real quick. Just lost a couple of hours of gameplay with no backup save of what was my current progress.
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Marilú
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:38 am

This needs to be fixed real quick. Just lost a couple of hours of gameplay with no backup save of what was my current progress.



Cant save no more , back up doesnt work...
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Farrah Barry
 
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:01 pm

Thanks for the suggestion Lady Nibenay, but steam cloud just restores the saves i already had and not the ones i lost.
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Nina Mccormick
 
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:24 pm

Yes, which is why you'd want to delete the ones that steam keeps restoring--otherwise any subsequent saves will be lost, too.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:40 pm

If you have issues with steam overwriting your manually recovered quicksave/autosave you can instead just rename the .bak to something else entierly (like "FFFUUUUUUU.fos") thereby turning it into a hardsave and load that instead without fighting the steam cloud.

As a workaround I just tried loading up the CASM addon for Fallout 3 and its rolling autosave feature seems be working just fine so you guys might want to try it out. Basically the addon manages a group of hardsaves effectively acting like a rolling history of the last X number of quick/autosaves. See more here: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3729

[edit] It's not working perfectly (because it depends in part on FOSE) but it is generating saves at least which is better than nothing... it numbers them from #0001 per session, so you will end up multiple saves with the same number in the list, just check the times on them when resuming your game
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:44 pm

If you have issues with steam overwriting your manually recovered quicksave/autosave you can instead just rename the .bak to something else entierly (like "FFFUUUUUUU.fos") thereby turning it into a hardsave and load that instead without fighting the steam cloud.

As a workaround I just tried loading up the CASM addon for Fallout 3 and its rolling autosave feature seems be working just fine so you guys might want to try it out. Basically the addon manages a group of hardsaves effectively acting like a rolling history of the last X number of quick/autosaves. See more here: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3729


Work thx
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:08 am

Would disabling "Steam Cloud" fix the problem also?

Because I just lost 4 hours of game time also.


Disabled under view>settings>downloads+cloud
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:27 pm

Disabling steamcloud wont fix the problem. It still auto-syncs saved games for achivements and such and will continue to over-write. either use lady's sugestion, restore your old game with my sugestion, or hardsave a lot. Those are really your only options till they patch this crap
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Oyuki Manson Lavey
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:34 am

I have a question about Lady Nibenay fix.

1. What do I name the BAT file?
2. I see two numbers when I open my user data file which one is it?
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Andrew Lang
 
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:04 am

thanks for the super awesome tips saner, even if it didn't work for me. i thought i'd just note that all my progress got lost when i updated (and then had to regress because nvidia are chumps with their 3d drivers) drivers. my hard save are there, but the .bak was the .bak from before i started to play with my drivers on account of terrible frame rates. hard saves it is i guess.

i'm sure no one from bethesda is actually reading this but it sure is a disappointing start to what conceptually should be an awesome game. i'll definitely think twice before believing they had fixed all or even some of the old problems again.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:29 am

I tried renaming the .bak files but that didn't work; same old quicksave back in Goodsprings. So I made a hard save there and tried exiting and deleteing the .fos files and starting from scratch. But when I started the game again, those same quick/auto saves are still there. And when I quit and check the saves folder, the .fos files I deleted are back again.

Where did they come from? The game must have the wrong files backed up somewhere and it automatically plops them in that slot when you start the game. Which would explain why even when I shut down properly the quick saves I make are gone.

Am I wrong or is all this tied up with Steam's tracking your gameplay? Which I don't want in the first place. I just want to play the damned game.
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Post » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:04 pm

magic


Thank you for this. It's the difference between losing 10 minutes worth of play and 7 hours. I'm so happy right now.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:42 am

Did not work for me.

I deleted the autosave and quicksave .fos files. Renamed the .fos.bak files to .fos. Saves are still old.

I removed the .fos and .ini files Lady Nibenay suggested and still did not work.
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