A screenshot would be enormously helpful here...

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Musty, why not spread the multiplication over multiple perks to get the desired result? Just make another perk to multiply the base value of the spell by 0.01 or whichever number works.

Because unfortunately, that multiplier is different depending on destruction skill level. For instance, if I multiply by 1.75 then again by Destruction * .01, it works fine when your skill is at 100, but if it's at say, 50, then the spell actually does LESS damage than the base magnitude (because we're effectively scaling it between 0 and max instead of base and max)

Perhaps with Destruction in both the perks then?

EDIT: Or alternatively have 100 conditional perks for each skill level and don't worry about a destruction mult. Tedious I know but gives you precise control.

I had the same problem with a different effect. You will have to use a script instead.

I think I may have found a possible workaround. It's a little imprecise - you don't get as much of a bonus when you take the perk, but by the time you reach 100, it will have scaled to where it should be, and you don't take a hit on damage either. It's just more of a curve and less of straight line for scaling.

Are there any good scripting tutorials that you could recommend? Ideally that cover how to add one to game objects in the CK...

Thanks for all the help guys!

To add a script to a base object (or a reference object already in a cell), open it up in an editor window and look for a section labeled "scripts", and click the "add" button in that section. If that field doesn't exist, you can't attach a script to that kind of base object. If you're adding a new script, select "[new script]" in the window that pops up, then enter a name for your script, otherwise filter for the name of the script you want to attach. For a new script, the "extends" field will automatically be set to what it needs to be for a script attached to that kind of object (though you can extend scripts of your own that extend that type of script), but pay attention to what you are extending as it will determine the kinds of functions and events you'll have access to.

After you enter your script name and select OK, you'll get dumped back to the editor window. Right click your newly attached script and either select "edit source" or "open in external editor".

Look for the kind of script you are extending in the links at the bottom of http://www.creationkit.com/Category:Papyrus (i.e. "MiscObject" or "ActiveMagicEffect", etc.) and it'll tell you what functions and events you have access to within your script. You also have access to anything present in parent types, so check out the parent as well (i.e. "MiscObject" extends "Form", so you get access to all of Form's goodies in a MiscObject script.)

Spells themselves can't have scripts attached, but they can have script type effects added to them (create a script archetype magic effect with your script attached, and add that effect to your spell.) The amount of information available to ActiveMagicEffect scripts ( the ones attached to Magic Effects) is abysmal though. Hopefully SKSE will be able to help out with that in the future.

As I'm rewriting the mod from the ground up in the CK, I'm making several adjustments, so I'll be eager to see how playtesting goes. I may ask for some volunteers to help test before I release - or I could just do what I did last time and put it up then adjust based on people's comments, do you guys have a preference? Here's what I've done so far:

I reduced the scaled destruction damage somewhat, and the scaling has a gradual curve. Taking the perks will decrease spell cost by 50% as in vanilla, but you won't see as much of a jump in damage right away. You will, however, see it scale as you level up. This should make the game a little less of a cakewalk early on, while keeping destruction as a viable option for higher levels. It should also fix the experience gain issue since I no longer nerf any spells - that will probably also make it much more compatible with other mods.

I reduced spell costs but added a higher penalty for wearing armor (this actually works out so that battle mages spend about the same magicka at lower levels, and less at higher levels than they did in the previous version, but cloth wearers get a pretty decent spell cost advantage.) Impact is still a 50% chance - that seemed to work out pretty well in the previous version, and Master Destruction spells have a 1.5 second casting time (a little longer than in the previous version, but still half the time of vanilla.)

I am currently working on Alteration...

P.S. Imp of the Perverse - Thanks!!! That info should definitely come in handy soon.

Psst... there is an early beta of 2.0 on Skyrim Nexus if anyone cares to do a little playtesting.

ooh, will hjave a play

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