Cat-girls instead of Furries [Request]

Post » Thu May 17, 2012 7:07 pm

I'm not sure how would they look like in Skyrim. If it has no compatibility issues it will be worth a try.

Regarding hate targeted at anime theme:
There is no policy barring the development of "off-lore" mods. When I dislike a mod, it's because of the quality of the mentioned mod. While I love anime myself, I find some anime mods really unacceptable, too. If it's because you feel every mod must adhere to lore, then you should stick to lore-friendly or lore-strict mods (or even better: DLC, because everything Bethesda makes is canon by default) and don't wander into these threads. The title is very clear, "cat girls". There's no cat girl in Tamriel, so it wouldn't be lore-friendly. Hate posts add nothing to the project. If you feel the OP (or someone) is wrong, point it out objectively or (even better) correct them.

(However, I also feel for the need for Nexus to be more strict in terms of mod filtering. I assume some mods can be safely tagged as "off-world" or "specialty" or "alternative" and removed from main listing.)

Finally, in my opinion, there is no right or wrong way to play TES, and I wish to extend that to "... to mod TES" as well.

Okay, sorry for the long rambling. It just ticked me off. This drama talk is too disturbing for an old "neko freak" like me to remain silent.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 6:57 pm

Make cat ears and tails equipment.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 2:59 pm

I'd absolutely love to see a mod like this! I've always been fond of Khajiits and this just makes them look really cute ^^,
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 9:26 am

...Oy vey, this got way off track in a hurry.


All I'm gonna say is that, ultimately, live and let live. While it may be a "shame" that lots of talent goes into fetish modding, that's less to do with interest and more due to how much higher the floor is to make it work right.

Really though, last thing we need are more AlienSlofs who withdraw from the community at large because people keep railing them with STOP MODDING THINGS I DON'T LIKE.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 11:05 am

While it may be a "shame" that lots of talent goes into fetish modding, that's less to do with interest and more due to how much higher the floor is to make it work right.

It's a bit like sales... you can't lose a sale you never had.

If the creator wasn't intrested, he wouldn't create anything at all, and we'd be none the wiser. You can't waste talent on the wrong thing, if he never intended to make the right thing =p
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 5:26 pm

It's a bit like sales... you can't lose a sale you never had.

If the creator wasn't intrested, he wouldn't create anything at all, and we'd be none the wiser. You can't waste talent on the wrong thing, if he never intended to make the right thing =p
This is also true. =p

Worst come to worst you could probably just ask 'em if that person making some crazy Monster Girl Mod would be interested in whatever else their talent may be able to support. Dialgoue has always been better than "Y U No clean mods?"
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 2:42 pm

I'm sad the conversation turned out the way it did. I think a cat-girl / cat-boy mod would be cute, and it's certainly not forced on anyone. Has all the forum-hate killed this, or is someone still thinking about it?
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 9:27 pm

Really though, last thing we need are more AlienSlofs who withdraw from the community at large because people keep railing them with STOP MODDING THINGS I DON'T LIKE.

That has happened to a lot of modders. You people doing this should be ashamed of yourselves :stare:

What ever happened to "live and let live"?
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 3:57 pm

I'm sad the conversation turned out the way it did. I think a cat-girl / cat-boy mod would be cute, and it's certainly not forced on anyone. Has all the forum-hate killed this, or is someone still thinking about it?
Forum-hate never stopped much modding, especially something as pedestrian as this.


Heck, I'd wonder if Luchiare isn't just doing it right now to poke at all the "BLARGH ANIME!" folks.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 12:29 pm

Heck, I'd wonder if Luchiare isn't just doing it right now to poke at all the "BLARGH ANIME!" folks.

;)

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/477787-alternative-to-the-anime-like-khajiit-suggestion/page__view__findpost__p__3912834 :lol:
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 9:01 pm

Wow crazy people complaining that some are dictating what they see on a mod site (I don't want to see Catgirl mods on Nexus).... while at the same time dictating what other can see (e.g. You cannot have those type of mods on Nexus)

The hypocrisy of that amazes me :)

I for one think a Mithra/Miquo'te would be pretty awesome.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 8:31 pm

...Oy vey, this got way off track in a hurry.


All I'm gonna say is that, ultimately, live and let live. While it may be a "shame" that lots of talent goes into fetish modding, that's less to do with interest and more due to how much higher the floor is to make it work right.

Really though, last thing we need are more AlienSlofs who withdraw from the community at large because people keep railing them with STOP MODDING THINGS I DON'T LIKE.

This is Skyrim. In the cruel land of the Nords where EVERYONE who asks for mercy is really just asking for ten seconds to catch their breath before they try to kill you again and the Dark Brotherhood assassinates you for being a bad singer, we do not "live and let live". At the fire festival a merchant said he'd give me a free meat pie. An apple pie was added to my inventory. EVEN THE APPLES ARE MEAT IN SKYRIM. So viking. It's a Manowar album cover for stiff plastic robot people.

I would honestly be likely enough to use a mod with neko people in this style http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=o-Ui24sbl-g
But if you look at any of the related videos in the sidebar of that one, you will see the other end.. a very high quality, well animated, oily pormo elf so out of place that I wonder if anyone ever actually played the game more than fifteen minutes with it. Ultrasixy mods are novelties, discarded when the hormones recede and some Daedra gotta die.

I detest that so much work goes into making jiggly boobs yet nobody, not even Bethesda themselves with Skyrim, have cracked making long hair that can move on it's own. You see it in plenty of other games now, so why not? It's just a horrible and damning summation of the kind of mod community this company really has. We all represent eachother, and there's too much of the pole dancing lingerie better bodies stuff to just write it off as the product of the worst basemant perchers. Look at the hot files on Skyrim nexus.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 2:20 pm

Really though, last thing we need are more AlienSlofs who withdraw from the community at large because people keep railing them with STOP MODDING THINGS I DON'T LIKE.

This.

FYI, Slof didn't stop modding, she just moved to her own site.

Anyway, someone is going to do a catgirl mod for sure. They've already been done for practically every other moddable TES game. It's just a matter of time and getting the CK.

There's no reason to complain about it. It's practically a done deal.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 10:10 pm

This.

FYI, Slof didn't stop modding, she just moved to her own site.

Anyway, someone is going to do a catgirl mod for sure. They've already been done for practically every other moddable TES game. It's just a matter of time and getting the CK.

There's no reason to complain about it. It's practically a done deal.
I know, I specified the community at large to more refer to the whole public eye thing.
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Post » Fri May 18, 2012 12:28 am

;)

http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?/topic/477787-alternative-to-the-anime-like-khajiit-suggestion/page__view__findpost__p__3912834 :lol:

Well, in this case i'm happy you like irritating people :hehe:

I detest that so much work goes into making jiggly boobs yet nobody, not even Bethesda themselves with Skyrim, have cracked making long hair that can move on it's own.

The jiggling was achieved by creating extra bones on the female skeleton and rigging them to the walking (and running, etc) animations. I'm no expert in this area, but couldn't the same be applied to hair? If not, Oblivion did have moving capes by using the beast races tail animations, perhaps that would work instead?

Still there is much more to the modding community than oily, animated mammaries, maybe it has been tried but just isn't possible with the engine? (And from what i hear the "Creation Engine" isn't really that much more advnced than the old gamebryo.)
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 11:23 am

Well, in this case i'm happy you like irritating people :hehe:



The jiggling was achieved by creating extra bones on the female skeleton and rigging them to the walking (and running, etc) animations. I'm no expert in this area, but couldn't the same be applied to hair? If not, Oblivion did have moving capes by using the beast races tail animations, perhaps that would work instead?

Still there is much more to the modding community than oily, animated mammaries, maybe it has been tried but just isn't possible with the engine? (And from what i hear the "Creation Engine" isn't really that much more advnced than the old gamebryo.)

It was more a hair shader thing when I was fiddling with it. Hair shader on anything makes it rigid, bound vertices or not.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 pm

It was more a hair shader thing when I was fiddling with it. Hair shader on anything makes it rigid, bound vertices or not.

Oscuro and now Cuteunit, its an Oblivion modders reunion!

I honestly don't care about all the bizarre and twisted content that pops up on the nexus, although it is sad that more time can't be devoted to content that adds to the depth and entertainment value of the game (i.e. content that tacks on years of enjoyment). It would be nice if we had an alternative to the Nexus, a place for mods that add additional functionality, advanced scripting improvement mods, and other similar mods that were responsible for adding to Oblivions longevity. Just for the convenience of not having to sift through all the grime. But yeah, to each their own and all that rubbish.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 8:49 pm

It was more a hair shader thing when I was fiddling with it. Hair shader on anything makes it rigid, bound vertices or not.

The underlying problem here is that Bethesda is still using obsolete 20th-centiry design patterns for their game engine, with deep inheritance hierarchies and widely used multiple inheritance instead of modern (and flexible) object composition patterns.

This didn't change in Skyrim; if anything, it got worse. The "new engine" Bethesda promised? It was a lie, simple as that.

TESHair for example inherits from TESForm, TESFullName, TESModel and TESTexture - none of those provide any rigging or clothing simulation capabilities. Also, in a modern design, all but TESForm would have been components which you could add to any object in the game world. Want a hair shader on tree leaves? Add it as a component to the object. Want clothing simulation on some hair? Add a "clothing" component to that hair object. That's simple, easy and ... not possible with Skyrim's outdated engine.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 9:23 pm

The underlying problem here is that Bethesda is still using obsolete 20th-centiry design patterns for their game engine, with deep inheritance hierarchies and widely used multiple inheritance instead of modern (and flexible) object composition patterns.

This didn't change in Skyrim; if anything, it got worse. The "new engine" Bethesda promised? It was a lie, simple as that.

TESHair for example inherits from TESForm, TESFullName, TESModel and TESTexture - none of those provide any rigging or clothing simulation capabilities. Also, in a modern design, all but TESForm would have been components which you could add to any object in the game world. Want a hair shader on tree leaves? Add it as a component to the object. Want clothing simulation on some hair? Add a "clothing" component to that hair object. That's simple, easy and ... not possible with Skyrim's outdated engine.

I agree that being able to compose orthogonal features within one actor, the way you imply, would be awesome, if it were done right.

However, this does not mean that the engine is not new -- it just means that it includes old design elements. That said, it's pretty obvious at least that the rendering engine is new. You do not get the kind of systematic changes we see here from tweaking an existing rendering engine.

Meanwhile, slightly on topic: lore includes a lot of stuff that might surprise people. And I am not just talking about daggerfall.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 10:56 pm

I don't think that armor was ever in game (or at least I didn't get far enough to find it). Besides, there's a reason Arena is generally ignored as far as lore is concerned :P
Technically, it was ingame : the arena cover itself is reproduced on the the Oblivion Arena posters :D
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 9:23 am

Technically, it was ingame : the arena cover itself is reproduced on the the Oblivion Arena posters :D
http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/OBbks_arena_poster.jpg It seems they fixed the gender discrimination by removing the chick altogether :P

Since a lot of people have been complaining about the complainers, I've gotta say: I'm really not one. I think you should do whatever you wish to your game. I am however a proponent of finding mods that you want quickly, and that means more precise sorting parameters so that you don't have to see chainmail bikinis if you don't want to.

Neither do I think that all skimpy armor is automatically not lore friendly. It's more about the handling than about the amount of skin shown. The Forsworn armor in Skyrim looks great, for example, because it fits with an idea and a society rather than just being for titillation. It's the difference between a near naked aboriginal woman and a modern day stripper.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 3:56 pm

It would be very difficult to saw whether the female with the sword in the center of the arena cover ever appeared in game, because graphics quality in Arena was so low.

That said, there was a similarly dressed sort of character -- she would appear in taverns and say mildly condescending things if you talked with her.

Meanwhile, if the title of this thread were "[Req] Daggerfall Khajiit Mod" or "[Req] Arena Khajiit Mod" perhaps some of these tangents would go away? (Arena Khajiit were humans with tails and ears, Daggerfall were basically the same, but with fur.)

Furthermore: lore includes a number of other variations and further suggests that they are all the same species and that parents with one appearance will probably have kids which appear different.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 5:10 pm

So more rigid hair helmets in skyrim eh? Meh, at least there are landscape shadows now.
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 5:33 pm

This entire thread is a gigantic "wat" for me.

Illegal acts and Mods are not the same; you cannot use them in the same argument, there worlds different.
I don't want Catgirls because I want porm - I want them because I play a Female khajit and I would like her to be a bit better looking.
I enjoy the anime style look.

I don't enjoy animated porm, I don't want a porm mod, I simply want a mod that alters the way my character looks into something more aesthetically appeasing to me. Why is this so hard for people to accept?

If you don't want it - don't get it. If you don't like it - don't get it. If someone on youtube uses it, and you don't want to see it - don't watch their video. Why is this such a problem for people? If you don't like it, leave.

Back on topic - has there been any progress with this that I missed in the thread?
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Post » Thu May 17, 2012 11:38 pm

This entire thread is a gigantic "wat" for me.

Illegal acts and Mods are not the same; you cannot use them in the same argument, there worlds different.
I don't want Catgirls because I want porm - I want them because I play a Female khajit and I would like her to be a bit better looking.
I enjoy the anime style look.

I don't enjoy animated porm, I don't want a porm mod, I simply want a mod that alters the way my character looks into something more aesthetically appeasing to me. Why is this so hard for people to accept?

If you don't want it - don't get it. If you don't like it - don't get it. If someone on youtube uses it, and you don't want to see it - don't watch their video. Why is this such a problem for people? If you don't like it, leave.

Back on topic - has there been any progress with this that I missed in the thread?

^ this
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