I think what people are getting at is that many of these mods would be usable by a larger playerbase if all the fetish crap was stripped out of them. Most people who want to download a My Little Pony horse replacer probably like the well-done model work and animations, and could do without the 20-minute "mounting" animation, if you catch my drift.

Could you guys maybe try to stay on topic please? I dunno how you went from catgirls to "I hate porm mods!"

There's considerable overlap.

I complain about the complainers mainly because all they do is take the fun out of a discussion without bringing anything relevant. Hypocritical, yes, I do agree, but then again I'm at least self aware of it. And to any means, my argument still applies to fetish mods. If you don't like them, that's all well and good, but it doesn't bring anything to this thread and frankly even if this were a thread about them, which on bethesda forums I would hope that wouldn't be the case, then you could just ignore them and move on. As I said, let the modders do what they like and enjoy, if you don't like seeing the mods then just block advlt content on the Nexus or avoid it on any of the many TES mod sites. So you have to sift through them, so be it, blocking advlt content will put a stop to it.

It's not like they are forcing their mods down your throat... or rather your Data folder. Hell I'm not the biggest fan of the mods myself, spare the cleaner versions better bodies/faces (because Bethesda's art team has been pretty bad with esthetics till recently), but I know from years of gaming it should be expected.


In any case on topic, I'm looking forward to the making of a mod like the one this thread was trying to talk about, along with any other race mods, I do like variety.

Edit: Anime Gaurd Elite, I like that, very creative. Do I enjoy anime? Yeah somewhat, none of the current stuff so the elitist part might fit me. I think the last one I enjoyed watching was Spice and Wolf, that is until the Berserk movies come out. Some manga is all I really do enjoy now.

Personally I think some of the more Anime-y Sword animations looked pretty cool in Oblivion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EClEJG4XAG0 (DMC Stylish w/ Sword Dancer)

...and SpellSinger improved what I considered rather svcky casting animations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=458ELFsEBEk (voice addition not required)

Not everything from Anime is bad or totally out-of-place for TES.

Lol at this thread. The OP complains about "furries" while he wants anime "catgirls"... What a joke.

For those of us who use nexus, I think the whole "don't like it don't look at it" is a weak argument. When you consider the fact that the same argument can't really be made for something like graffiti irl.

This is how I feel about some mods on nexus, it is the equivelant to grafitti, because I can chose not to look at it, but it still hard to avoid.

Yucky

Non sequitur, Graffiti is often an illegal act and is in no way related to posting mods that fit well within the rules of the site. So to your comment of "weak argument" I say et tu sir. Even if it is "hard to avoid" then learn to accept that it exist and move on. Complaining about it to the modders solves nothing and only furthers discourse with nothing constructive.

Uuuugggh, catgirls....

Notice how they aren't even asking for cat-people. No: specifically, catGIRLS. Go look for hentai somewhere else.

Criticism aside, as long as Bethesda doesn't pay attention to this kind of icky stuff, people are free to put all the naked catgirls they want in THEIR version of Skyrim. Mods are meant to do just that.
I just want Bethesda to never pay attention to THAT kind of manga mods for their future projects. But I doubt they will so it's ok.

It could be worse, at least it isn't like those pedophile mods for Fallout 3.

Just because grafitti is illegal and mods are not, does not make my point moot. Your excessive use of latin suggests your trying harder to look clever then to actually understand the anology.

Illegality is completely irrelevant.

I don't like graffiti, I don't like anime mods.

Seeing them peppered around nexus as graffiti is peppered around a landscape gives me equal displeasure.

Others might like it, I do not.

I seem to recall there was an Oblivion race mod that added multiple races, including ohmes and ohmes-raht. I'd love to see them added to Skyrim as well.

I don't care about mods I will never download, though.

As much fun as I'm sure you're having on your high horse, if you took the time to actually read what I've posted in this thread and understand what my position was, rather than go on some hysterical rant about some imaginary hysterical rant you assumed was taking place simply because I used the word "anime" in a post, you might realize that much of my position actually was already in agreement with you. I was distinguishing porm mods from things that simply look like they have anime-inspired art, and talking about why it was wrong to try to assume one implied the other. (And no, you can't just say "Oops, I went on a rant on the completely wrong topic, but everything I said makes just as much sense, anyway!")

When there were at least a dozen posts in this thread that actually did just boil down to "I hate anime", and would have made your complaints at least somewhat valid, you couldn't be bothered to find them, and instead attacked someone who mostly already agreed with you.

Please don't try to "defend" anime anymore, because you're clearly not helping. It's people like you that give enjoying anime a bad name in the first place when you try to "defend" the medium. You paint the rest of us as the same sort of hyperactive persecution-complex idiots you are. If you present nothing but the face of antagonizing anyone even halfway willing to compromise while ignoring the people whose positions are truly unreasonable, that only encourages more people to have unreasonable views of anime.

Furthermore, stop complaining about posters you don't like. Nobody is forcing you to read forums. If you don't like them, don't read.

This.

I really think Nexus should have a way for us to "ignore" these types of mods, and they don't. When I decided that I wanted to find a reskin for khajiit in Oblivion so they wouldn't look so 'blah' and lo-res, I had to prowl through almost literally ten pages of search results that were all labeled as such but were in actuality nudity and "cat-girl" mods. A tag that would mark a mod as potentially appealing to a certain audience (or in this case, unappealing) would be a good compromise. To be honest, I don't buy into the whole "khajiit have 17 subraces" stuff and I don't want a mod that attempts to add ALL of these variations into my game just to get 'different eye colors', because unless you're RPing "the world's only Omes" in Skyrim, it's rediculous. Meh. /rant

Meh, I actually like anime. But that doesn't mean I want to see half(or fully)-naked furries every five seconds, that have nothing to do with what I searched for. Nor do I want to see a billion, usually re-skinned, dresses that wouldn't even make sense in the environment, covering up most of the good mods, to the point they're nearly impossible to find.

Personally, I think that if lore says that khajit appearance depends on phase of moon when born, then most types of khajit should be represented in game, for immersion purposes.

That said, I also feel that Nexus filtering could be massively improved. Instead of a mutually exclusive set of labels, we should also get a bunch of subcategories.

Rules Change: no, yes (power play, nerf) [rebalance mods would be both]

Appearance Change: no, yes (immersion, showy, other game, modern, skimpy, nudie... probably need free-form labels here)
. . . Texture size change: no, yes (reduce size, increase size)

And so on.

Note that doing these labels right probably means having polls for them (that are actively moderated, so that bored pranksters get banned from the polling process). They are complicated enough that they could die of neglect -- and all too often people post mods that are not properly described by the authors.

Currently nexus has an "approval" process for user feedback, but that does not work very well since you have to understand what is being approved before you can understand the approvals (and to do that you have to form your own opinion about what the mod is about...).

Eh, I'd probably just have a "lore friendly" or "purist " tag in addition to the "advlt" one. It wouldn't get rid of all fetishgear mods, but it should cut a great deal. The biggest issue with any system is tagging all the already uploaded files. Probably far too late in the game for OB/MW/FO, though if it's implemented on skyrimnexus right now it might still have a chance.

That would be simpler. But I am not sure how you would deal with mod authors that have not played arena, daggerfall, morrowind and oblivion.

You could simply have a tagging system like many other websites have, including YouTube. Just have a giant grab-bag of searchable tags that are unrelated to "categories", and you can just stick every tag in the bag to your mod that applies properly.

If someone doesn't know what is "lore-friendly" or not, they probably just won't add the tag.

It might be worth letting random viewers somehow add or remove tags, themselves, potentially by vote or the like. It depends on the site, but users can often be better at policing these things than having overworked mods handle it.

You don't. It's not meant to enforce total lore correctness - there aren't enough mods to warrant such a category - but rather a general spirit of stuff that at least somewhat fits into the game. Lost Spires is by no means lore correct, but it fits the spirit of the game well enough, unlike bikini armor or motorcycles. As I said earlier, it wouldn't remove all extraneous mods (because, really, nothing can), but it would be a category that is easily enough defined without a degree in TES lore.

Nexus has had tagging since forever. A lot of people (modders and users both) don't know about it, and hence it doesn't get as much use as it should.

Speaking of bikini armour, you do remember the Arena cover, right?

Of course, the idea is a good one in general. There might be some stuff which is hard to decide either way, so a "lore correctness" gauge might work better than a simple "yes/no" kind of filter, but that's details.

I don't think that armor was ever in game (or at least I didn't get far enough to find it). Besides, there's a reason Arena is generally ignored as far as lore is concerned

You may not like it,but that doesn't give you the right to keep telling people not to make anime-themed mods.

Just be aware that it is a matter of taste and everybody has the right to alter thier game in any way they like.It's not like the mods are being forced upon you or effecting Bethesda's design choices or something.
The OP is just asking for someone to do this,not forcing anybody to do it.

Barging in just to say "OMG PLZ KEEP YOUR ANIMU OUTTA MY TES" is...the same as barging in to some [REQ] thread that wants dragonbone weapons and say "OMG therez no wai you can make weapoz outta bonez keep yur nonsense to urself" or barge in to an axe thread and yell "I dont like axes dont stuff the net with axez plzuse swords in a midevil game1".Pointless.

Please note that I'm not saying this to anyone who disagrees to the matter as I wouldn't like to have anime-looking Khajit in MY game as well,but to the people who just jump on to the opportunity to bash some anime.
Nobody has the right to say someone what they can mod and what they can't.





If it burns your eyes so much go complain to Nexus to have some kind of search filter as someone mentioned in the posts above.That way your energy wouldn't go to waste as well.
Good day.

Actually thats a good idea, I suggest you put it up on the nexus forums.


@others: I gave my opinion on the argument, that's all, don't like it, I don't care.
I'm not trying to defend anything but the modders right to enjoy what they do away from critics who have nothing constructive to add. And that's the key, if your going to criticize a mod, make it constructive, not just "I HATE THIS KIND OF MOD!" responses. Nothing more or less.

Lol - I didn't notice that. Good catch.



...now to go make a halo total conversion and replace shadowmere with my little pony.





I am of course kidding about that bit... but seriously. What's the big deal about what content you use? - Nobody else can see it