The answer is

Time

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Time = Money

Mods take time to create. Mods take time to optimize this time must be spent by someone. Modders spend their time for free and doing such while Bethesda Game Studios and all 100 (or is 99 now) developers is on a Job working being paid for their work.

Any content released by BGS via DLC is just a mod period an official mod but still is a mod to the base game. The content that you will get from BGS will be optimized (or at least more so to an extent of some user made mods created by 1 person vs 100 can do) and able to work on each platform.

Taking the "best" or "recommend" PC mods will not exactly do so well with console for one high res textures cannot be done and two things like SkyUI is PC focused not meant to work with a controller still does though.

As for the game editor idea, this isn't Halo this isn't a small ass FPS "HALO paced" map this is Skyrim one of the LARGEST worlds on consoles (beaten by Just cause2, farcry2 come to mind) it has separate cells tons of separate cells even releasing a console to the consoles could result into major issues of the user overloading their systems even to the point of frying the system because heat control isn't all great especially if you never replaced the heat paste. Let's imagine that this was possible/permitted and In this scenario where a user of the 360 spawned 10k cheese wheels and broke their game or even console who would be to blame? MS they will laugh in your face after going "Well BUY another YAY" sony will have the same. Bethesda would most likely put up warning for mods and say "can't help ya".

So yes DLC whatever Bethesda's releases later this year for the xbox getting 30 day head start is logical it is fair because the mods on PC someone has to create them spend their personal time doing such for free going through several versions and testing to get it working for a good amount of people. That's what is good about any modding community for any game people spend their time doing such for others improving the game play of said game I did the same in Crysis/wars people did same in Battlefield 1942 through 2142 and people have been doing it in TES for the longest time as well as many other franchises.

So I was looking at some sick mods and stuff that were used without the Creation Kit and I've seen a handful using the C.K. I am always amazed at what people can do and just how much they can change the game. Like adding weapons, or new homes, etc it's all stuff I cannot have. Yeah I have an Xbox 360. But that's not the point, the point is that the Creation Kit is free, from what I've read, and I know that DLC for xbox is NOT free.

Answer: Your having an Xbox is the point, that's why you can't get the Creation Kit, and can only get Microsoft approved DLC. Sorry, but that's a fact of life on consoles.

Basically the PC gamers can create their own stuff for free but I have to pay for a small expansion with "a lot of meat on it". Whatever that means.

Answer: PC gamers also have to pay for developer provided downloadable content, just like you do. We are privileged that Beth allows us to mod games with mods that other PC users create...if those creators chose to charge us for them, I suspect that they could do that if they wanted to and a way was found to do it.

I had an idea that to me sounds awesome: Putting the mods people create on Xbox Live and PSN for us to download! I don't know exactly how it would work or if the consols could handle every mod. But I'm sure the staff can pick ones that the consols could handle.

Answer: Good idea, would be excellent for you. But I doubt that Microsoft and Sony would come to the party, and their requirements may be too much for many modders to meet.

I just do not think it's right that the Creation kit is free and DLC is not. I pad $65 for a game, which is ridiculous enough and then I have to end up spending another $10-$15 dollars per DLC?

Answer: The Creation Kit, as I understand it, is the tool which Beth used to create the game...hence it's not something that they made especially for PC gamers. Providing it to us, as I said earlier, is a privilege, not a right. And as I said earlier, we pay for developer created DLC as well.

I saw the 50+ weapons mod someone created awhile back and thought that if that was open to consol gamers that would be so cool.

I'm not starting a xbox is better than ___ thread, so please don't start saying your opinion on that. I just want to hear opinions of a possible idea of free dlc in the form of mods for us consol gamers.

Just an opinion remember that...

Blame Sony and Microsoft. As for DLCs, well considering that it will take a while for an "Epic" Quest mod to come out, we need DLCs for a semi-cool story. Really, all I'm waiting for is another Heart of the Dead style quest with puzzles, actions, and awesome story.

So that's why we should have DLCs, even if we can get content for free: To hold us over. And there are some things that Bethesda CAN do that mod makers CAN'T. Things such as making voiced content with the original Skyrim voice actors.

I don't know if I buy all this Sony and Microsoft stopping them from allowing mods BS I'm pretty sure if they wanted to they could.

Ok that's old stuff look at newer posts =p

and you're saying that the Creation kit is what they used to make skyrim... but only pc gamers have access to it. You said it wasn't made made especially for pc.... so why can't xbox and ps3 people use it too?

I'm kind of confused by what you said... kind of contradicting.

I don't know if I buy all this Sony and Microsoft stopping them from allowing mods BS I'm pretty sure if they wanted to they could.

You're right. if they want to let it happen, they will. But it has to make them money with little effort on their end.

All these people are saying "what if" this happens or that. If the right steps are taken then there shouldn't be any problems. DLC is basically modding right?

Yep I am all for DLC but I just feel like we desrve it for free. Or atleast for a cheaper price. I don't want to have to pay $12.99 per DLC. A weapons expansion for free would be legit too. I mean after all Skyrim is winning tons of awards... Bethesda has cranked out some great RPGs and Skyrim is their best imo. With all the media attention, awards, and achievements I think they can spare a few dollars to give their followers some more weapons and armor for free?

The problem is that Sony and Microsoft insist that they get to veto mods on their machines. Not sure why, but they're the ones controlling the situation.

The problem is that Sony and Microsoft insist that they get to veto mods on their machines. Not sure why, but they're the ones controlling the situation.

This... also you need to remember that the xbox 360 is OLD. I mean would you use a normal computer that came out 7 YEARS ago? no? Thats what you are doing with your 360, i try not to hate to much i was a 360 guy myself till about a year ago. Even though a computer cost more than a 360 it generally is cheaper in the long run. but thats aside the point. Many MANY mods would not run on the 360, and im not just talking texture packs. Put just one to many npc's on the screen, crash. put to many things anti-alising (don't even know if consoles have that), crash. Or if doesn't crash then the games super slows down. Then you have a ton of people who don't know a thing about mods whining about how their "game is broken fix it beth." I'm not saying your one of these people. but the fact is that consoles will not be able to handle most mods.

Yep I am all for DLC but I just feel like we desrve it for free. Or atleast for a cheaper price. I don't want to have to pay $12.99 per DLC. A weapons expansion for free would be legit too. I mean after all Skyrim is winning tons of awards... Bethesda has cranked out some great RPGs and Skyrim is their best imo. With all the media attention, awards, and achievements I think they can spare a few dollars to give their followers some more weapons and armor for free?

Bethesda can't just do whatever they want; they have to pay to be licensed to make software for the 360 and Playstation 3. Realize that Microsoft and Sony aren't making boatloads of money off the consoles themselves, they're making most of their money off the games they license. In fact, I remember back in the day of the original XBox and the Playstation 2, there was speculation that Microsoft and Sony were actually selling the consoles a little below cost and taking a hit on every machine, just to get more people using their machine and buying their games.

Op, I am about to spend 1500-2000 $ on a PC. That's just to make mods. I hardly see them as free. I'm just paying up front for all of my DLC. I will still have to pay for expansions.