Dawnguard Info and Discussion - Thread #37

Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:55 am

Post here your ideas, speculation, hopes for Dawnguard and discussion of confirmed information.

Some details of existing quests might be related to discussion of DLC, so please remember to use spoiler tags when appropriate.
Note that it is a "timed exclusive," which means it will release first on Xbox360 and soon thereafter on PS3 and PC.

May 1: From http://www.bethblog.com/2012/05/01/dawnguard/:
http://cdnstatic.gamesas.com/bethblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Dawnguard.jpg


May 29: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/05/29/is-hearth-fire-another-skyrim-dlc-add-on.aspx

May 30: http://www.youtube.com/embed/3PjBSicSVqI


http://www.bethblog.com/2012/05/31/dawnguard-trailer/

EDIT: Summary of Dawnguard Information prepared by me. The Unconnected One:


Legendary Dragon Picture http://i.imgur.com/18jft.jpg The name of the dragon in the Soul Cairn was Durnehviir.
There are new enemies called Keepers
There are new enemies called Bonemen. [skeleton's with helmet's]
There are new enemies called Wraithmen
The daughter of Lord Harkon's Name is Serana
Dawnguard will be 10 to 20 hours long
Dawnguard will hopefully release on June 26th for Xbox 360 with a month exclusivity if all goes well beta testing and bug finding. Ps3 and PC will get the DLC though
According to Todd Howard mods may be soon coming to consoles if "something clear's up" He also said "In a perfect world that would all be possible, but it's something that hasn't worked out yet."

Vampire Lords can summon Gargoyle's
Vampire Lords can attack with their claws
Vampire Lords can hover
Vampire lord Perk tree: 11 Perks

Power of the grave - 50 bonus to M/H/S
Blood Healing - Killing a person with a power attack bite restores all of your health
Unearthly Will - Night Powers and Blood Magic costs 33% less
Poison Talons
Night Cloak
Vampiric Grip
Summon Gargoyle
Corpse Curse
Detect All Creatures
Mist Form
Supernatural Reflexes

There will be some Werewolf content but they aren't telling us anything as of yet
EDIT This is regarding customizeible bases Here is Todd's exact quote "And in this there are two fortresses that you can make your own and kinda trick-out"

The Purple Flaming horse was seen near a Giant fire which is only at Giant camps, so we can use the Purple Flame horse outside of the Soul Cairn
Todd Howard says that the Dawnguard get's Armored Troll pets. EDIT: Machinima confirms that Armored Trolls are treated as Companions and have to be hired

Most of the Werewolf Perk Tree http://imgur.com/a/5iBUK
Here's the left side of the Werewolf Perk Tree
Totem of the Predator
Savage Feeding
Totem of (Ice?) Brothers
Totem of The Mace
Can barely make out the far left perk, but it looks like "Totem of the Moon"
Screenshots i took, entrance to the Soul Cairn http://i.imgur.com/tOdcV.jpg Dead Legendary Dragon http://i.imgur.com/FCNU8.jpg

Gameinformer Hands on preview. http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_elder_scrolls_v_skyrim_-_dawnguard/b/xbox360/archive/2012/06/05/hands-on-with-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-dawnguard.aspx Looks like we go on a quest to get Auriel's Bow
We can now craft Crossbow Bolts
The Purple Flame Horse's name is Arvak as confirmed by Gstaff
?We enter the Soul Cairn in search of an Elder Scroll
Gamespot confirms that your gender affects your Vampire Lord Transformation. There are female Vampire Lords
IGN Confirms that you can become a Werewolf again if you have cured your Lycanthropy. This could mean Wild Werewolves.
Kotaku confirms we get at least 2 big landmasses http://kotaku.com/5916595/skyrims-massive-dawnguard-sounds-like-a-proper-old+school-rpg-expansion

Thank you Senor CInco for the Vampire Lord Perk tree, Thank you Xenonychus for the Dragon's name, Thank you Korbu for the rest of the Werewolf Perk Tree. Thank you Verbose for the Kotaku article.

Did i miss anything?



Previous threads


Spoiler

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1325612-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1329169-unofficial-dlc-discussion-spoilers-thread-2/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1338202-unofficial-dlc-discussion-spoilers-thread-3
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1348297-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-4/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1364960-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-5/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1367158-unofficial-dlc-discussion-possible-spoilers-thread-6/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1367439-unofficial-dlc-discussion-thread-7/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1331322-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-8/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1369662-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-9/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370019-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-10/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370560-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-11/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370638-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-12/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370752-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-13/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370766-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-14/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370778-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-15/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370797-unofficial-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-16/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370808-dawnguard-and-future-skyrim-dlc-discussion-thread-17/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370827-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-18/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370856-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-19/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370894-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-20/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370930-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-21/

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1370998-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-22/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1371090-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-23/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1371091-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-24/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1371334-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-25/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1371845-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-26/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1372881-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-27/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1373537-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-28/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1374669-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-29/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1376113-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-30/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1376443-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-31/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1376618-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-32/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1377335-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-33/
http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1377696-dawnguard-and-future-dlc-discussion-thread-34/
Thread 35 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1379222-dawnguard-dlc-general-information-and-discussion-thread-35/
Thread 36 http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1379799-dawnguard-dlc-discussion-thread-36/
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:20 am

It was found in the patch files of the game. So we may get Dragonmounts.

... I guess I'll have to reserve judgement on this, but I'm skeptical about how well this would function. The only time I'd really think it would be nice is if there was arial combat with other dragons/ flying way out above the Sea of Ghosts fighting some monster emerging from the depths.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:53 pm

rather than a dragonmount, make us a dragon!

was it mentioned whether we get more shouts than the Soul Tear one?
has it been mentioned if there is just that undead legendary dragon, or more?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:34 pm

Since the Soul Cairn is the realm of trapped souls i think it would be cool if we could see everyone we soul trapped there. Thoughts?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 pm

... I guess I'll have to reserve judgement on this, but I'm skeptical about how well this would function. The only time I'd really think it would be nice is if there was arial combat with other dragons/ flying way out above the Sea of Ghosts fighting some monster emerging from the depths.

that would KICK ASS!! Perhaps that giant mud crab from the game jam. :biggrin:
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:33 pm

rather than a dragonmount, make us a dragon!

was it mentioned whether we get more shouts than the Soul Tear one? [The Soul Tear shout is the only one mentioned. but Gameinformer said that there will be Word Walls in the Soul Cairn]
has it been mentioned if there is just that undead legendary dragon, or more? [Gameinformer said Legendary Dragons, So yes there will be more then one]
Answers in post.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:58 pm

If we were transformed into a dragon at some point in the game, I'd hope we were Alduin. I like the idea of the World-Eater and the Last Dragonborn's battle being an internal struggle between fulfilling your duty (Dovahkiin) and fulfilling your own desires (Aludin) taking place externally between two avatars of the same being.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:29 pm

Since the Soul Cairn is the realm if trapped souls i think it would be cool if we could see everyone we soul trapped there. Thoughts?

NICE!!!! all super pissed at you, trying to skin you alive for trapping their soul :devil:
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:45 pm

I wonder if they carry a different infection than standard vampires?
Who knows? The pureborn vampires might end up being like the ones in Blade. The pureblooded always seeing the turned ones as inferior.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:45 pm

If we were transformed into a dragon at some point in the game, I'd hope we were Alduin. I like the idea of the World-Eater and the Last Dragonborn's battle being an internal struggle between fulfilling your duty (Dovahkiin) and fulfilling your own desires (Aludin) taking place externally between two avatars of the same being.
I think it would be cooler if we became the New Dragon Of The North, Talos that is. The White Dragon. Versus the Black Dragon.
NICE!!!! all super pissed at you, trying to skin you alive for trapping their soul :devil:
They couldn't kill me the first time :P
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:14 pm

I'm quite happy about the changes to vampires in the main game (and not just in the new expansion content). I always like expansions best that improve the main game in addition to adding new story.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:28 pm

Who knows? The pureborn vampires might end up being like the ones in Blade. The pureblooded always seeing the turned ones as inferior.
I most certainly hope so. intestine wars are always fun.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 pm

NICE!!!! all super pissed at you, trying to skin you alive for trapping their soul :devil:

Reminds me of The Sorrow's boss fight in Metal Gear Solid 3.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:51 pm

At least 2 big landmasses? The one is Soul Cairn and the second the unknown area where the dragon seen in the trailer dives.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:09 pm

Reminds me of The Sorrow's boss fight in Metal Gear Solid 3.
Adding to that who have you soul trapped?

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I did Cicero, Movarth, The Emperor, Linwe, and Commander Maro.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:59 pm

At least 2 big landmasses? The one is Soul Cairn and the second the unknown area where the dragon seen in the trailer dives.

I really hope that's not a unique animation for one boss dragon. Not that I want to see dragons burrow into mountains and shoot out from beneath me, but it'd be cool to see them start taking advantage of their surroundings more.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:33 pm

Reminds me of The Sorrow's boss fight in Metal Gear Solid 3.

I flashed to a " Dawn of the dead " seen, being surrounded by the living dead( or ghosts ), all because my kill count is well over 1200 and all my weapons have soul trap on em.
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:42 am

Adding to that who have you soul trapped?

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I did Cicero, Movarth, The Emperor, Linwe, and Commander Maro.

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Ancano, Mercer, Linwe, Movarth, Maro and Maro, Motierre, Champion of Boethiah and Malyn Varen.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:18 pm

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Ancano, Mercer, Linwe, Movarth, Maro and Maro, Motierre, Champion of Boethiah and Malyn Varen.
Nice.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:07 am

Since the Soul Cairn is the realm of trapped souls i think it would be cool if we could see everyone we soul trapped there. Thoughts?

I'm not sure if the game tracks who you've soultrapped, unlike Morrowind or Daggerfall. I think you just get generic "Grand soul" "Petty soul" etc. and it doesn't remember whose soul it was. Now, they could add it to the code, but then only people soultrapped after getting the DLC could be remembered and appear in the Soul Cairn.

Also, problems with lots of NPCs being trapped.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:30 pm

2 new landmasses, one of which is Soul Cairn.


Very nice if this is true. The Soul Cairn looks amazing.
The kotaku article also states the vampire castle will be in the north west

Makes sense than that the dawnguard is in the south east, the complete opposite of the map. This is also supported by the Riften look of the castle area
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:35 am

I'm not sure if the game tracks who you've soultrapped, unlike Morrowind or Daggerfall. I think you just get generic "Grand soul" "Petty soul" etc. and it doesn't remember whose soul it was. Now, they could add it to the code, but then only people soultrapped after getting the DLC could be remembered and appear in the Soul Cairn.

Also, problems with lots of NPCs being trapped.
How dare you bring logic into this conversation :P
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:21 pm

So, this unrelated story with the "really, really" cool dungeon, Snow Elf Prince perhaps? He seems to have been sidelined by all this talk of vampires.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:12 am

I just figured something out. In the trailer it showed the Elder Scroll with the Markings of Markarth and Solitude. Markarth is in the Southwest and Soitude is north. I just discovered the castle's locations! :banana:
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:13 pm

So, this unrelated story with the "really, really" cool dungeon, Snow Elf Prince perhaps? He seems to have been sidelined by all this talk of vampires.

Snow elves would be my best bet also :)

But i loved hearing that there are TWO new landmasses appearing :D im gonna guess that the other will be the area in which the castles are situated :D
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