PC users, more like ps3 users, but I see what you mean.

We may just have to agree that this is a matter of taste then, because even the best mods (and yes, I've been playing since Morrowind on PC) aren't at a professional level, for my money. Occasionally they do one or two things right, but that's not the same as putting together all the content required to make an expansion-sized DLC.

20 Bucks hell thats cheap for most games plus the way my women thank me for getting it for her woo hot damn V"""""V

If you need an excuse to validate your position / opinion, then welcome to it. You'll understand if I have doubts over some of your claims...

The only good thing DG had going for it and they turned them into overpowered killing machines. As if the game wasn't easy enough already.


Tons of mods for this already.


Can mod this in a few minutes. Yes, it's that easy.


Glorified fast travel.


Console commands.


Part of the vanilla game since 1.6.


Ok, that's kinda cool I guess, as are the new monsters. Can never have too many monsters. But they are limited to the DLC areas, so you won't enjoy that content for very long.

Dawnguard is a great expansion, im happy that we get anything more than base game and various mods!

Can modders create forgotten vale with the musical score of jeremy soule and all the scenic touch of classes and make them available even to console players with a professional writing,voice acting etc. ?
Ask this to yourself before makin' such egoistic statements - not all can play the game on pc sadly,or simply don't want and prefer console -for the same reason we have obsolete animations and the old graphic engine simply revisited

Of course on pc we can have mods - but you've to thanks only bethesda for this - don't forget that other developers don't care at all for such things - too much freedom could be dangerous sometimes

Agreed.

If you like mods that are done by amateurs and 11 year olds,then go ahead and play those.Why bother posting here since you know people want to play quality content, not some third world garbage?

Also I am sure there are modders who will create the soundtrack,the Vale, the atmosphere and voice actings for the DLC. Not to mention the new enemies, stories, etc.- Think before you write. Mods give you options but don't make it a substitute to actual content.

If Beth didn't give the creation kit,then what?More mods? I am sure you guys are super smart and have people lined up for all the voice work, dialogues and NPCs.

And this whole thread is weird. Seems the OP wants advice, but then argues and does everything to criticize and downplay the DLC. If you have dark souls and guild wars 2(which you say is a better option for you) then you already are set.

"pushing me to the other side of the force"

LOL. We aren't your parents here to make decisions for you.I think you got enough ideas here to work on what you want now(but then again if you are some 9 year old it wont surprise me).

It was worth the money just for the Vale alone, luckily certain elven artifacts found within also suit the clothing and appearance of my Epic Elven wife in game also. Added bonus.
I look forward to home mods in the Vale and indeed all the new architecture found throughouit the DLC being used in future mods. Again, worth it for that alone.
Love the crossbows, suits my characters style.

Apart from the Beth BS with their lack of keeping the customers in loop, the DLC is worth the money in my opinion.
Any problems I have had were caused by mods and went away when the respective mod was disabled.

Be that as it may, i'm not paying that much for it.

Yet again, someone complaining that content that IS included in DG is not there. There is new terrain, there are new areas, and the missions are hardly "hamfisted" and 100% DO add to the overall lore and history of Tamriel.

I don't "need an excuse", I have many reasons why I don't use mods, and have repeatedly stated that DGs value can not be weighted against madated free content that is subpar in quality.

First, you didn't know what was possible. I offered you proof, and now you're "doubtful" because there's been no bubonic plague of jpg passed viruses. You asked for an example of the possibility. Every single coder with any knowledge, every single virus expert, they all agree that the potential for devastating viruses to exist and infect in non-executable files is a VERY real threat. You ASKED for this example. Do a bit of research maybe next time? The fact that there are existing problems with the content YOU suggested as a valid (and better) replacement for DG (mods) only serves to illustrate further the value of DG, and of OEM DLCs in general.

Dawnguard is Really worth 20$ im serious i just beat the game yesterday when i got it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone asked if there were different areas on the flip side of the coin, playing vampire vs. hunter. I just started the vampire side and, so far, the answer is, 'yes, there are new areas to explore and different missons'. The skooma den ws VERY well done.

Not to toot my own horn, but I do know a bit about virii... And you don't really seem to, so let's just leave it at that.

As to content that I suggested??? I NEVER suggested any content that could be rated with Dawnguard, as I'd have no basis of comparison. I do not have Dawnguard, hence my interest in this thread.

I do have a tendency to call people out when they claim that the sky's falling. There are no easily executable methods for using graphics as a delivery mechanism for malware. Yes, there have been some proof-of-concepts, and the odd attempt at releasing something in the wild. None of these attempts have ever been anything more than an exercise in flopping, really. Saying that there are, and that they are enough reason for you to not use mods, that's claiming that the sky is falling. Change your sig to Chicken Little, please.

well...it depends, 20 dollars are not so big amount of money...it is DLC, but some new games or preorders are more than 40 euros so...

Mods are not sub-par quality. While I'm always supportive of official content, many mods rival Dawnguard's quality, with some surpassing it.

And the chance of a virus in a plugin file is practically zero. If a hoax file is uploaded (a bat file for example), then the Nexus and Steam staff will resolve that rather quickly.

Name one Skyrim mod that rivals Dawnguard.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9782
Want more?

I've only played a bit on the new main quest, but I totally feel this DLC is worth $20. Currently playing on the side of the Dawnguard and loving the crossbow and side quests.

A shower with Serana - priceless

I love the mod , but is there any OPEN world space ?
It's all closed jungles , no actual exploring.

Well I still love this mod A LOT.

Exactly.

It's a great mod, but it doesn't compare to professionally-developed material. That's not a slight against the mod-makers either. They aren't a professional design team, so it would be ridiculous to expect them to be up to the same standards.

Need I remind people of the various mods from other games that have gone on to become successful games in their own right? Counter-strike, DotA, Red Orchestra, Day of Defeat, just to name a few. Besides, the real power of mods IMO is not in the huge mods, but in the multitude of small mods that together allow you to define the gameplay that you want in your game.

And no one is saying that mods aren't great. But just because a handful of mods end up becoming their own thing doesn't mean that you can expect professional-level work from the modding community.