i've been playing for over 500 hours and boredom is no where in site.

I was being sarcastic, I dont have even half amount of that gametime.
But you are not changing anything by doing all these how Morrowind owns Skyrim threads.And Bethseda will do things their way anyway, so this statement "Change it" , doesn't make any sense.

No you're right they are not idiots and I know Bethesda really cares about their games and their fans but I still feel they need to hear our opinions is all i'm trying to say and hopfully try and overhaul it in there next DLC which I hope comes in the next month or two.

Its just an old saying and what I mean by it is try and get the ones who have the power to change it to change it. And the only way we can do that is by making our opinions heard.

Except its not because it fails to live up to what its predecessors were able to do. If you can't understand how bad that is then there's no talking to you.

Yes you could be a stealthy mage/warrior, or a warrior/mage that sneaks, possibly a thief/warrior with spells, or a spellcasting warrior/thief, the possibilities were endless...

I don't know if they bother to read these threads or even if they care, but I don't think they "know it all." They may know a lot and for some of the things people are complaining about here that may be true -- it was a conscious decision, but until the game is released into the world to be played by millions of people, they cannot know everything. These games are just too complex and their beta testers can only tell them so much. For instance, I suspect Bethesda did not make a conscious decision not to include enough information in the game world for folks to complete quests without the quest arrow. That just happened and it took real players, not beta testers, to figure that out.

Really? in Oblivion i only made three characters. one for the main quest. and there was nothing else to do so i just made two characters that went around killing people. in Skyrim. i've made about 13 characters i think. One is my main that does everything, i have a normal thief [daggers, sneak, lockpicking etc] and a Nightblade [Magic and one handed thief], an Orc berserker [heavy armor, two handed weapon], an imperial soldier [sword and shield], two possesed characters that just use a woodcutter's axe and a pickaxe, A Mage Assassin [Magic, one handed] A Hammerfellian prince [Dual weilding, just Redguard clothes] An Argonian Pirate [Thief, one handed only Scimitar] The sons and daughter of my main character[One is a pure mage, one is a two handed cocky warrior, and one is a one handed and shield Paladin] An archaeologist[Hand to hand combat] and i actually made a copy of Faendal just cause i liked him so much. oops that's 14.

I am still not bored of Oblivion.

I cannot see a time when I will be bored of this game. There will be times when I will not play the series, but that will not be due to boredom.

Yes, definitely. I thought I'd explore to begin with and leave the quests until later. Unfortunately that means that I am now completely sick and bored of the world after 130 hours and I haven't even finished the DB or started the MQ. I just can't stand running around the same landscapes that I've seen 100's of times already. I don't know why, but I didn't get bored of the Oblivion world even after 500 hours. I can't put my finger on what is different, it's weird.

I was bored of Morrowind very fast. Oblivion as well, though I came back after a year when some mods were out. Skyrim has lasted longer, but nowhere near Daggerfall. I probably put 5 years into that game.

Not at all. I couldn't bring myself to finish Morrowind, and found Oblivion to be an excercise in efficient leveling and "Get ten of this item" quests (namely "close X number of Oblivion gates"). They weren't complex and involving - they were tedious (except Shivering Isles, which was extremely good but not any longer than the Skyrim main quest.)
While Skyrim doesn't score higher on quest quality, the lack of many annoyances found in previous games, plus the fun of watching various NPC followers run around, has kept me playing.

I think I must be sub consciously sick of TES "fetch" quests. I am so tired of having to travel half way across the map, to pick up a book, or a horn, or whatever. Why are all these things in dungeons? It's so unimaginative and dull. Although I am enjoying the DB questline.

Quite the opposite for me. I find Skyrim to be the most interesting of all of them.

I played Morrowind for just over a month. I played Oblivion for three weeks. I played Skyrim for two and a half months. Skyrim has held my attention and captured my imagination more than any other game in the Elder Scrolls series.

i was like that too, until I made a goal to beat all main and guild lines before Skyrim released! I still feel more waits for me in Oblivion, while Skyrim had its coffers of fun have been emptied at a rather astounding rate, not in a good way. I can't put a finger on it, but it's been the cause of some thought...

Maybe it's that been there done that feeling?

No, I've played all 3 to around 100+ hours or so. Honestly game time doesn't make a game good, or bad. I've known people who've played farmville for 100 of hours, people who've played WoW for years (of in game time) and I myself am glad Minecraft never recorded how much time I spent playing it because it would have been 1000+ hours easily.

Honestly...yes i have become bored with the game, infact iv not played in about 2 months or so, i'v been playing other games since i stopped, i only launch Skyrim to update my mods and install new ones. iv had 2 actual chars iv leveled up, others were either tests or i restarted after awhile, i made it to level 43 on my highest which was a dual wield dagger assassin, i played on master and everything at the time and felt way too easy and became boring, but now i have wars in skyrim ( dark mode ) deadly dragons and some others installed waiting for me to play when i do get back to the game...maybe months from now i don't know, the game needs to fix the bugs and make more of a challenge i never finshed the main quest either, had over 100 played 200 locations explored and everything, did a few thieves guild quests got too bored compared to the others where as i would get bored after months to a year of playing.

Well, for the month of November through late December I played it constantly, burning through multiple playthroughs. Then I slowed down a bit and started on BF3.

I alternated between the two, and I still play Skyrim, but I feel like I've done everything.

OB was quite the opposite, I played it constantly, but never got bored with it, I had over a dozen playthroughs, each with at least 80 hours on them. That game never got boring.

But that was most likely because it was the first RPG I got into, so it was basically the best game ever for a couple years.

And then I slightly overhyped Skyrim.

Yes and no. The game is, in most ways, better than previous TES in my opinion. So far its kept my attention fairly well. I have dropped off in playing, however. Though, its most likely do to the fact that life places far more responsibilities on me these days that back when I bought Oblivion, and certainly more than the Morrowind days. Its more of an effort these days to find time to play. That sort of removes some appeal to games in general. Not really a knock on Skyrim, however.

I do think there will be areas where replay will suffer severely in the future. Mainly in the removal of spell crafting. After you've done all the quests a couple times over, read all the books (which there is a smart phone app for BTW), played various arch-types; the main appeal for me at that point is customization and trying out crazy different combinations. Spell making was a major source of customization. Different effect combinations could greatly change how a character played out in combat and such. The main pro being how it allowed for multitasking (which is probably more important in Skyrim since spells are "equipped" on a hand).

We'll see. Smithing doesn't really add customization really, its just a buff like any other in practice. Enchanting can change things up, but possible enchants have been limited severely from previous TES. Spell crafting would have been a nice addition to flesh out your toons beyond simply picking skill trees. Perk trees are a good addition, but there's really not a lot of variability (2 hand axe spec isn't played out any differently than 2 hand sword spec in practice, etc.)

My main gripe with Skyrim, is that it just isn't very interesting. They created this large, beautiful world, but forgot to imbue it with life and purpose. It's like a playground, theater, or theme park, where you have everything to yourself, and nobody else to enjoy it with, no outside factor to shake things up, or make your experience extra special and different on every go through.

The NPCs largely have as much personality as is needed to fill their role, and nothing more. There are few if any hidden depths, secrets, or other things to them. They feel largely like robots, even more so than in Fallout 3/New Vegas, and Oblivion. They have a static list of things they do, and its a very small list. Even characters who appear as though they should have been important, such as the blades, Alduin, the various guild quest npcs, they are all very basic with little ability given to converse or truly get to know them.

The quests and stories told through them, are largely linear, and there is little to nothing you can do to truly change the world around you. The world largely remains static, and the majority of quests in the game are filled by the randomly generated radiant quests. There are not really any lasting consequences, or alternative branches one can take on their journey, and the radiant story generated random encounters list is so small, that you quickly end up seeing the same random things over and over.

The world, very blatantly appears to revolve around the player. True as that may be in reality, it does not even really make any attempt at hiding this fact.

I played through Arena several times, plugged 300+ hours into Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion each, and so far I've only put 30 hours into Skyrim. I simply have no desire to play it. All of the "can see it coming a mile away" scripted events, plus the static challenge no matter where you go has left the world feeling like nothing happens organically. I guess I'm not a big fan of their design decisions, nor the continued shift towards an action / adventure game. Perhaps after the modders turn it back into an RPG I'll have another go at it.

I suppose I agree with this

No. Skyrim is the first that I will play a second time (have the ps3 version and will buy the pc version once a goty edition comes out).

I had the most fun in Morrowind, but I tried to play a second playthrough and I was too used to having the Boots of Blinding Speed. I liked how the legendary artifacts worked towards the end goal. (I feel more could have been done with a story around the Dragon Priest Masks)

Oblivion had my favorite quests (Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild), but I actually took breaks from playing and avoided exploring as much because the Oblivion Gates became tedious.

Nope, still going and haven't even beat the main quest yet.

I can't even play Skyrim anymore, It lasted about a month after release for me and 100 hours of gameplay.

The first 30 hours were really amazing and I loved the game but after that I found that the Main quest and guilds were lacking severely compared to when I played Oblivion. When I noticed this I started a new character on Oblivion to accurately compare the two and when I was 40 hours in I was enjoying it alot more then Skyrim. The fact that the ending was by far one of the worst in my opinion of all the games I've ever played and how the world lacks depth really got me disapointed.

I'm really looking forward to DLC annoucements though to get me back into this game but until then Mass Effect 3.