Why is it soo perverted? x3 You cant do anything with your "Wife" or "Husband" No hugs or even kisses even.
Nothing perverted with being married.

It;s not that cheap if too many dlc like this start arriving. Add them all together and you end up paying as much for small dlcs as you do the actual game. That is why I prefer full sized well worth it expansions (that can happily include smaller dlc ideas as a "thank you for buying my game" added extra)

Really? People complain about it all the time.
It's a horrible system, it means nothing, you gain almost nothing from it.

Right, becuase adding new stuff just happens in a moment...

Also what we saw in the Gamejam has to be the fully completed content, not like they had to add a lot more to the Vampire lord to function properly, we obviously have the same thing we saw in Game Jam...

Especially crossbows, just like we saw in Gamejam... OH WAIT!

Oh and it's an objective fact: KIDS ARE ALWAYS BAD, they ruin everything. A thing like adobtion can only make things worse....

agreed and its out next week, so its not like we have to wait months for it

I did think the marriage system was rather gimmicky myself. A lot of the concepts in Skyrim felt rushed to me. Almost as though they were rushing to release the game on a certain date... but no, that couldn't be right could it?

I've seen LOADS of people saying how they wanted to be able to build their own house. Or related ideas, like rebuilding Helgen or Winterhold, which are in a sense similar: construction, turning nothing into something awesome.

I've also seen loads of people, myself included, saying that they wanted to be able to adopt a child.

BETHESDA LISTENED TO US. If you want to complain because they listened to us and not you, feel free. We will not give a rat's hind end. This is what we wanted, and Bethesda delivered. Instead of birching, why not tell them what you want? Overjoyed as I am abnout Hearthfire, I will still discuss my hopes for future DLC's.

Oh, wait.

With me and my views here, it's not so much a problem with the content itself, but rather the message it sends. A better example than the horse (same case as the horse but more dramatic) is the Vampire Lord form itself.
Vampire lords are unheard of in lore. The Volkihar had their own lore description. But instead of sticking to that, Bethesda tossed all lore out the window and implemented Vampire lords. Why?

No other reason than "because we already had it made thanks to the Gamejam week and it looked cool."

This, to me, is poor management. "Because we already had it made" is laziness and "it looked cool" may be all well and fine, but if it doesn't really fit in, maybe you shouldn't try to shoehorn it in. The horse itself could easily be explained with lore if they bothered to write some. What bothers me though is that it was probably included for no other reason than "because we already had it made and it looked cool."

Think of it like math. You could have the correct answer on a math test, but your teacher STILL might give you 0 points for it if you fail to show your work and show your work correctly. My problem isn't the quality of the end-product itself, my problem is with how the end product is being decided. It feels like we're getting what we're getting for no other reason than "because we already had it made thanks to the Gamejam week and it looked cool."
I just want to see them say "yes this has been made, but it doesn't seem like a good product" or "yes this is cool, but it doesn't really fit in." So far though, I've been given the impression that DLC = Gamejam week content. Where's the new stuff? Where's the management to weed out the bad ideas?


And THIS is one of the prime ways it feels lazy.
Have they bothered to EXPAND on the feature since Gamejam?

No, not in the slightest. Even though it's common sense that MAYBE, just MAYBE, an orc player would want to adopt an orc kid. Instead they leave the adoption idea as-is (one can assume) until a year later and then throw it at us for $5.
That's hella lazy, so no I'm not buying half-assed work.

Just like we had ten years ago, actually.

Uhmmm...roleplay?

Although I admit that I miss some family mod for Skyrim (I wish Emma would still be active in the modding community...don't know if she is ). Maybe with Hearthfire, that aspect will finally get bumped up. We'll see...

What i find dissapointing is that Bethesda was supposedly working on the PS3 version of Dawnguard since they wanted to perfect it or whatever bs, but instead were making a dollhouse for micro$oft.

---- VERY MINOR DAWNGUARD SPOILERS ----



Well, it's not like the horse was obtained from a random spell tome. There was a small misc quest for it, and the former owner giving you good reason to bring it out of the Soul Cairn every once in a while. I assume animal souls go to the Soul Cairn as well. So.

I see what you're saying, though. I understand why you're a little anxious of things to come. Just don't quite see the issue with the horse, to be honest.

So just like real life then... Tah dah!

See? The implementation is perfect!

Anyway, atleast we can now make Chapatis (or Pop-Tarts) in a stove! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
On a serious note, will the cooking system be expanded? I'd love to play as a Chef. Jamie Ollivahkiin.

Because that is not how developing for DLC works normally?

You know, people sitting together brainstorming ideas, deciding what is going to be used and what won't?

That's what gamejam did, except everybody worked on something and they had a week to make it into a presentable state.


But no, they had to just Ctrl+C,Ctrl+V what they had in Gamejam, wait half a year for good measure and release it, that's how this works...
... yet spears were in gamejam...

This is hilarious. Sims meet Skyrim. Oh well.

Raed

^ this.

Give a beggar a slice of bread, he will thank you. Give a hater a slice of bread, he will complain you didn't gave him a sweetroll

Me, I can't wait to build my own house and mod the hell out of it.

If it's only $5, that's fine, it will be good to have a money sink in game, especially with how easy it is to make gold when you finish the No Stone Unturned quest.... *rolls in a mountain of flawless diamonds*

If it's not $5? LOL OH HEEEELL NO! Theres mods better than that, and they are free!

youll never get what your want asking like that. beg, beg i say!

They should've been in the actual game.
I don't see your point?

Your argument in saying "Crossbows weren't in the gamejam" was intended to refute the idea that all DLC was just Gamejam content, perhaps also to refute the idea that Bethesda was being lazy.

Mentioning another feature that was in the ten year old predecessor to Skyrim, but not Skyrim itself does not help your point.

No, that's NOT how this works. That's exactly why I'm not purchasing Dawnguard or Hearthfire.
Typically when people brainstorm ideas, that means ideas get shot down if they're bad. Here? Nobody's shooting down ideas. Adoption got implemented of all things. ADOPTION. Vampire Lords murdered Volkihar lore so they could get in. Typically, a project manager or director should be there to say "you've worked really hard on this Kevin, good work, BUT we won't be implementing this because A, B, and C."

But nobody's doing this. They're tossing everything at us, no matter how half-assed or out-of-place.


And again, adoption has been developed since before Skyrim's release. Since then, have they bothered to make orc kids? Elven kids? No. They let the idea sit there for a year and then just tossed it at us as-is.
It's extremely lazy and poor management in my opinion, thus I'm not buying. I don't wanna support this policy.

Its not Bethesda's fault that the PS3 is a pain in the rear to program for.

But it IS their JOB to freaking deal with it anyways.