DLC Exclusive. Discussion Still Going

Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:14 am

AS far as I'm concerned everyone at bethesda can go crawl in a hole and die. I could care less about WHICH platform they made this commitment to. What I object to is the fact that these deceitful scum, waited until literally the last possible day before release to announce this. Now the only ways for me to get a 360 version are to a) screw myself out of a collector's edition by cancelling my PC preorder, or B) get a 360 version copy and basically spend $50 more. Maybe I'm a spiteful, bad person, but I'm tired of getting screwed, and I hope some karmic justice befalls itself on these people so that they spend the rest of their lives miserable for this kind of irresponsible behavior. For what little good it will do I have also filed a Better Business Bureau complaint for deceptive advertising practices, as I can characterize this last minute bait-and-switch no other way.


ARE YOU REALLY?Are you really?!ARE YOU REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT A VIDEO GAME?!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:43 pm

why are yall so ticked off about it?
I mean it started on the pc its been on the pc since BoS then it was sony
i think its right that microsoft users should have first dibs
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:12 am

You are part of the reason WHY dlc continues in such a crappy form that it does today. Part of the argument here is not that we "deserve" to have DLC, but the fact that this particular DLC will probably end up being a cash-in BS excuse of a DLC just like most of them that flood the market. Instead of giving us what we DO, in fact, deserve which is a full version of the game we paid 60+ dollars for in the first place, we pay 60 dollars and get about 2/3 of the game and get to unlock all the fun stuff by paying extra, when they could have just released the game 2 months later with all the "extra" stuff put into the game to begin with. Don't believe most price tags out there today folks, games are starting to cost between 80-100 dollars with all the DLC that keeps coming out for them, yet people seem to just keep lapping them up.

an earlier post of mine.


THats not how things work though.Crap happens and deadlines need to be be meet so things are cut and later released as DLC.Also they actually think of these things after the game is finished and say "Oh we should of put that in there".Yes some DLC looks like it was deliberately cut just to make a larger profit but not all of it.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:12 am

I honestly don't see it much different than the in-game pre-order bonuses. Order from Gamestop, get his. Order from Best Buy get that. Order from Amazon and get nothing. :shrug: Choices and after Oblivion and FO:3 having some Xbox timed exclusive stuff I'm quite surprised folks didn't expect it. We don't have to like it but the deal is done. I personally want this game too much to boycott it and thus....I must not care overly much.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:18 am

Harmonix PR Manager John Drake has revealed that a PSN-exclusive Rock Band PS3 DLC sale begins next week.



PS3 owners will be happy to see that they have put another feather in their cap, to join previous announcements of a Medal of Honor: Frontline PS3-exclusive remake and Dead Space: Extraction PS3 with Dead Space 2: Limited Edition, by revealing some Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood exclusives for PS3.



Mafia II isn't out for another month or so, but that's not stopping 2K Games from talking about DLC. Depending on your platform of choice, the next tidbit will either make you collapse to the floor in a happily sobbing mess or clench your jaw in pure fury.* The first of the two announced DLC packs will be available exclusively to the PS3 shortly after launch, and it won't cost players one thin dime.

all just for PS3 and this is only a few games

so stop complaining... and grow up


The only good game on that list was Dead Space but even than Fallout is 20X better.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:44 am

Because Bioware is the only other big RPG maker out there. Again look at the amount of content. With all of ME2 and DOA DLCs, you still don't get as much game play as a vanilla Beth RPG. Saying who had better writing is opinionated.


Slightly off-topic

IMO Square Enix is a bigger RPG maker then bioware, There are like 14+ final fantasys now 2 of which are MMORPG Just thought i'd bring that up ;P

On-topic : In the end i'm sure we will all get the DLC, we just have to be patient
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:03 am

i got some armor plating on my back to care of that problem.. that and i have ....patience (the magic word). yea grandma used to make me just sit there when i was a kid cause she didnt believe in all these "new fangled technologic devil devices".. actual quote btw so i learned how to handle boredom when i was about.. 4

Dont get me wrong I dont care about the DLC to not get the game I getting New Vegas but it just makes me angry about the way they didn't tell us in advance and that its just not cool to do that to pc users an ps3 users. But I will still get the game
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:09 am

They sold more on xbox because some people lost intrest with fallout on pc ps3 that they stopped and didn't care for the dlc anymore!

As said DLC hit the same time for 360/PC........as for lost interest in FO3 PC have you looked at Nexus and how many more peeps have joined since FO3 came out :blink:
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:32 am

I don't see how Microsoft's reputation has anything to do with this, or what errors you think they're throwing money at. Probably because trying to make your product support every random 3rd-party standard under the sun is so easy, eh? It must be...that's why everyone is doing it. :P

Anyway, do you seriously think that Sony wouldn't do exactly the same thing? Do you seriously think that any company wouldn't do the same thing? Bethesda is making those decisions. They are the only ones it makes any sense to blame if you're going to insist on being mad at somebody.

Why do you keep bringing Sony up? I'm a PC and 360 owner so I'm not engaged in a war of who is the best corporation, and I'm not picking on Microsoft because I love Sony. Sony and Microsoft have an equal giant's share of bad mojo when it comes to the consumer. A decade of Windows alerted me to Microsoft's way of doing things, that was stamped with an exclamation when a couple of hundred thousand defective consoles were shipped out with full knowledge, just to get a jump on the rivals. That wasn't about good business, because they knew they had money enough to employ enough elves to handle the whole red ring exchange network, which was more efficient than the launch of the console. Doesn't stop me using Windows and owning their console, I like games, and they're the only team in town to my eyes.

I know Microsoft are in it to make money, and Sony would certainly do the same thing. My only point is if a publisher is going to commit to a launch across all platforms, then they commit to making a deal with their consumers. You don't see Ford shipping out a line of cars and only supporting a certain colour, or something. "These new alloy wheels are only available on the blue model. Sorry, didn't we mention that before you bought the red one? Our bad." The consumers across all platforms are buying the same product, and are entitled to the same support and benefits, all at the same time. :shrug: If not, expect to reap a whirlwind of complaints, and your reputation to suffer. I guess. Heh ha.

Edit: I hope this doesn't read as a passionate plea or anything. As long as my PC version arrives and works as it should I'll be happily playing FO:NV to death this weekend. I just think it's bad business and publishers deserve bad reps for spreading their product widely, and only supporting it fractionally...

...or something in better English. I'm tired. <_<
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:29 am

why are yall so ticked off about it?
I mean it started on the pc its been on the pc since BoS then it was sony
i think its right that microsoft users should have first dibs


dibs doesn't have squat to do with it, it was the mighty $. Since Beth only cares about the $, they will not see any of mine....I will buy it used from gameslop which I also hate!..but they are the lesser of the two evils this time for me..YAY THIS WILL BE MY FIRST USED GAME!
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:55 pm

Well seeing as some people believe(as I hope, but doubt) it is a timed exclusive, I'll post my thoughts on that matter: If its not as long as it was for the Fo3 DLC's, I can live with it. :shrug:
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Post » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:25 pm

Hahahahahaha, how's your perfect PC version now, guys? :rofl:


Dude PC has mods and if people got really good they could make their own "DLC"
more often than Bethesda publishes them....
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:31 am

dibs doesn't have squat to do with it, it was the mighty $. Since Beth only cares about the $, they will not see any of mine....I will buy it used from gameslop which I also hate!..but they are the lesser of the two evils this time for me..YAY THIS WILL BE MY FIRST USED GAME!

this is gonna be my first CE xD
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:47 am

Hahahahahaha, how's your perfect PC version now, guys? :rofl:

Still infinitely better than either of the console versions since we have modding tools from day one and the content that comes out of the community is undeniably better than anything Obsidian will ever add to the game.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:46 am

Hahahahahaha, how's your perfect PC version now, guys? :rofl:



Still the perfect version with improvements(performance&gfx) and mods.

The DLC is still comming to pc, Timed exclusive. :)
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:01 pm

Slightly off-topic

IMO Square Enix is a bigger RPG maker then bioware, There are like 14+ final fantasys now 2 of which are MMORPG Just thought i'd bring that up ;P

On-topic : In the end i'm sure we will all get the DLC, we just have to be patient

JRPGs are dead to me. They are good for nostalgia that's it. The advlt American mind cant comprehend Japanese fantasy, hence the inclusion of so many western ideologies and Dogmatic themes that you see in them. Once you become an advlt you no longer want to ferry your party around in a vehicle that resembles a gold Victorian era sixual apparatus. Even then, look at 13. It was way watered down compared to previous entries.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:48 am

Hahahahahaha, how's your perfect PC version now, guys? :rofl:

You my dear are crusin' for a ban hammer brusin'. Don't flamebait.

That said, I don't see too many PC players to upset by it. At least I'm not. It's just a bit of added content that generally cost less than a full meal deal at McDonalds and has about the same amount of flavor. I'll take the filet mignon at the lodge thank you and they can keep their added burger. :shrug:

Actually scratch that anology and make it dessert. After the filet I've no room for dessert and I don't even think most dlcs are as good as dessert.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:40 pm

We understand that we all should have been told this weeks if not months ago?


Would you have bought it for the 360 instead if you had known in advance? lol, I certainly can wait another month and don't care if they can play it before I can.

why are yall so ticked off about it?
I mean it started on the pc its been on the pc since BoS then it was sony
i think its right that microsoft users should have first dibs


Why should anybody have dibs? You people make no sense.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:49 am

wait, is this confirmed Timed or is it Pure exclusive? If its pure I see a problem. A big one.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:32 am

No one knows that it's a timed exclusive. There is zero reason to believe this. It's been called "exclusive." People are believing what they want to, but the facts certainly don't point to any other platform getting it even in a year -- that could change, but a lot of people are acting like it will yet they know nothing to indicate such.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:00 pm

Harmonix PR Manager John Drake has revealed that a PSN-exclusive Rock Band PS3 DLC sale begins next week.



PS3 owners will be happy to see that they have put another feather in their cap, to join previous announcements of a Medal of Honor: Frontline PS3-exclusive remake and Dead Space: Extraction PS3 with Dead Space 2: Limited Edition, by revealing some Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood exclusives for PS3.



Mafia II isn't out for another month or so, but that's not stopping 2K Games from talking about DLC. Depending on your platform of choice, the next tidbit will either make you collapse to the floor in a happily sobbing mess or clench your jaw in pure fury.* The first of the two announced DLC packs will be available exclusively to the PS3 shortly after launch, and it won't cost players one thin dime.

all just for PS3 and this is only a few games

so stop complaining... and grow up


Didnt see the orignal post but this isnt in reply to lighthouse but who he quoted. Mafia II has been out for a while now there is already two DLC`s out with a third on the way. The first one was Jimmys Vendetta, the next was a DLC that allowed you to pick which pre order pack you wanted, and the next one in the works is a DLC letting you play as joe in those 6 years that you were in Jail between 1945 and 1951 and these DLC`s are not exclusive, I am learning about them through Steam on my PC under the news section when I click on my mafia II install.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:31 am

As said DLC hit the same time for 360/PC........as for lost interest in FO3 PC have you looked at Nexus and how many more peeps have joined since FO3 came out :blink:

I Thought that pc didn't get the DLC at the same time my bad.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:54 am

No one knows that it's a timed exclusive. There is zero reason to believe this. It's been called "exclusive." People are believing what they want to, but the facts certainly don't point to any other platform getting it even in a year -- that could change, but a lot of people are acting like it will yet they know nothing to indicate such.


Yikes. thats scary.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:47 pm

an earlier post of mine.


THats not how things work though.Crap happens and deadlines need to be be meet so things are cut and later released as DLC.Also they actually think of these things after the game is finished and say "Oh we should of put that in there".Yes some DLC looks like it was deliberately cut just to make a larger profit but not all of it.


Yes, but it's not how it SHOULD work, at all, nor is it the best business model to abide by at all. Look at how Valve does business; any add-on that they make they release for free, because their customers paid the full price of the product and therefore deserve the entire thing that they are purchasing. Nothing that they have added in is unobtainable through just the over the counter copy of the game or any add-ons provided you actually play the game, though the option to pay money to skip ahead has recently just been added it was made abundantly clear that it was never going to be the only way to obtain anything.

Yes, their games take a long time to get out into the market, but honestly, not a single one of their games was ever lauded as being a rushed out POS with huge bugs and glitches nor have they ever been accused of screwing their customers. In doing so, they release quality games that have a huge fan base and have enormous amounts of customer loyalty because everyone who buys a Valve game knows that they are getting a quality game and won't be getting milked through DLC. This, in turn, leads them to buy LOTS AND LOTS more Valve games.

I guess copying one of the most successful developers and publishers in the industry right now isn't pro tech though, huh?
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:41 pm

wait, is this confirmed Timed or is it Pure exclusive? If its pure I see a problem. A big one.

Not confirmed yet but the best guess is timed exclusive.Also they are only talking about the very first DLC not all of them.
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