DLC Exclusive. Discussion Still Going

Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:35 pm

In order to protest getting the DLC a few months after Xbox 360 users get it...

... DLC that will likely last 2-5 hours...

Some of you are returning your copies of New Vegas...

... a game that, if it's anything like Bethesda's games, has the potential to last you hundreds of hours...

...

:blink:

I understand you want to protest a business decision that you don't agree with, but honestly, it seems like you guys are just hurting yourselves by doing it. A better option would be to never play the DLC when it comes to your platform of choice. Or buy the GOTY edition used, if you wish. But don't deprive yourselves of what is likely to be a great game just to protest this business decision.


So, how else is someone to protest? cause buying the game is really showing them isn't it! :rolleyes:
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Talitha Kukk
 
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:19 pm

Wow. Some people are really over reacting. We don't even know what the DLC will be. Remember they also said that only this FIRST DLC will be exclusive.


People are reacting because they most likely played Fallout 3 and everything that was available to xbox players was available to PC gamers. So we PC gamers are basically having something taken away that we came to expect as a given because we had it in Fallout 3. And this looks especially bad because there have been a number of "Sorry, we're not going to release a PC version" press releases recently (Super Street Fighter IV and Bioshock 2 DLC).
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:12 pm

I have three PS3s...OWNING an XBOX is not my problem...the XBOX controller makes me feel like I'm holding a Frisbee.

I have a few friends like you in real life. I'll tell you what I told them, being a PS2 to XBOX convert myself. Within a week of playing, the controller doesn't matter. Unless your inherently weak, you will adapt like every other creature.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:30 am

They obviously payed Bethesda as they do to every game review company. There is no other reason except xbox being the graphically easiest system to program because it is slightly behind the times ATM.

Xbox is easier than PS3 to program for because most game engines and dev tools are designed for one or more general-use processors and a GPU. It's not that the 360 is easier to program for so much as the PS3 is difficult to program for, just like the PS2 was. Sony always insists on using proprietary architectures. Sometimes their architectures are good, and sometimes the additional complexity seems a little pointless. I'm not going to say which one of those categories I think Cell falls into, but if Sony wanted their systems to be easy to develop for it's within their power to make it happen. They choose not to.

I'm a software developer myself...I've never developed anything for PS3, but I have two friends that have. They are not fans of developing things for Cell. I'm not saying the PS3 isn't a capable machine (outside of the GPU it's probably more capable than the 360), I'm saying it could be just as capable while being easier to develop for. Sorry, but that's Sony's fault. They need to start complying with standard practices rather than trying to dictate them at every turn. They do this in all of their product lines...not just game consoles.

That said, this has nothing to do with DLC. Game content is very likely close to the same on all versions of the game (outside of textures and such). The differences in programming are in the engine, not the content. DLC release dates should have nothing to do with programming difficulty.

Sick of getting screwed by the money beast that is MS,
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So, it's MS's fault that Bethesda is selling DLC exclusivity? Right...I forgot about MS's voodoo mind control powers. Darn you and your powerful juju, MS!
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:06 am

Since New Vegas has to be activated on Steam, via the owner's account...will you even be *able* to use a used version of the game? Or will there be a "Usage Fee" involved? I would imagine that the game will be permanently *locked* into your Steam account. As they said, once you install the game and activate it on Steam, you can *throw the disc away*! Thus...the disc is basically useless at that point. I don't think there *will* be any "used" copies of the game...anywhere. That is part of why they went with Steam.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:38 am

How about Sony for not doing any exclusive DLC?


They dont make dlc, the creators do. And as said before microsoft gets the running start without really looking over the content and fixing errors. They buy whatever they can and laugh at others when they beat them to the punch. The only reason xbox has more users is because they were there first. If ps3 came out at same time as xbox 360 ps3 would probably win, seeing as they dont constantly break, if ever.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:46 pm

Have fun not playing Fallout, guys. Seriously some of you are going nuts, but hey, I don't care. I'll be playing fallout.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:13 pm

So, how else is someone to protest? cause buying the game is really showing them isn't it! :rolleyes:


As I said, don't buy the DLC when it comes to your platform, it's as simple as that. The majority of people who were angry were likely hyped up as all hell for this game before this news, and by not buying the game they're hurting themselves more then they're hurting Bethesda. Bethesda will still get plenty of sales from the people who aren't angry. The only thing that will really make a difference is if you show them "We don't want to be treated like an afterthought" and not buy the DLC when it comes to your platform. :shrug:
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:32 pm

So, how else is someone to protest? cause buying the game is really showing them isn't it! :rolleyes:


Does one really need to climb to the barricades over a small issue like this?
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:17 am

this is still going on?

man, people must really be desperate for something to do until midnight/tomorrow
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:01 pm

I am a bit upset as most of the people here seem to be with Bethesda and their choice to make it XBOX exclusive but I am sure the DLC will make it to the other platforms in time. I have all 3 platforms but I ordered for the PC because it's just my preference. It's just a shame that they didn't announce this until the last possible minute for the people deciding which platform they were going to buy it for. It really shows a lack of integrity in my opinion on the developers part. It's also upsetting to see the way things have gone with download content. I remember the days when the developers released free content to their fan base and now it seems as those days are gone. Well at least we will all be enjoying NV soon, some of you lucky ones already are.



Thats how I am, I prefer PC since I am more adapt to aiming and shooting precisely with a mouse compared to a little joystick. Like wise the newest game console I own is a Super Nintendo that I still play and I dont see the point in upgrading to a console like Xbox just for one game.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:59 pm

People are acting like the few hours in the DLC will somehow hamper the 1000+ hours of vanilla game play if they don't have it. I guarantee that it will come to the PS3 eventually. Now if your worried about it being buggy and such, that I cant help with. I guess you should of got a 360 opposed to a PS3, since a lot of multi platform games on the PS3 are inferior/buggy.


Yes but PS3 exclusive games are 1000x better.
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:04 am

Figures. As much as I like playing Bethesda developed/published games, moves like this make me have no respect for them.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:31 pm

Does one really need to climb to the barricades over a small issue like this?

*Climbs to barricades because he thinks Care Packages and Second Chance are overpowered(like an idiot)* Oh wait wrong forum...
So yes, apparently some people do think they must protest such tiny matters.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:51 pm

I have to admit that exclusive DLC is the worst bunch of Nonsense I have seen started this gen, it is utterly [censored]. I can understand console exclusives, they make logical sense, and is the main reason I bought both consoles. But haven't add-on for a game released on both consoles exclusive to one version is pretty stupid, and is just hurting your consumers and gains you nothing but consumer distrust. How is cutting off half of your userbase good for you? How is pissing off that base and telling them screw you, and endangering your game's sells to that group good for business. How is this a future proof plan, what is going to happen next gen when Sony might potentially be in charge again and those who own its console remember the screw jobs of this gen and don't buy your product?
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:40 am

*Climbs to barricades because he thinks Care Packages and Second Chance are overpowered(like an idiot)* Oh wait wrong forum...
So yes, apparently some people do think they must protest such tiny matters.


And a fine flock of proud little consumerpatriots they are...
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:31 pm

PS3 Users Reactions: "Oh god exclusive DLC?! The world is ending, call the army. Station up at Bethesda and demand our equal rights, I am cancelling all pre-orders and waiting to buy a used one! They will never get my money! Oh dear lord...why?! WHY?! I want my 10 extra hours!"

What their reaction should be: "Oh, what a darn shame. Least I'll still have the original, with all those delicious 1000 hours which actually mean something."

(Yes, I am a PS3 User, I ain't flaming anybody, just pointing out something here.)
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:43 pm

Bethesda : Great games, poor marketing management.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:22 pm

Yes but PS3 exclusive games are 1000x better.

Opinion is opinion. Could care less about any games other than WRPGs. What WRPG exclusives does PS have other than Demon Souls. ME 1 was better than Demon Souls IMO anyway. On that note, exclusive games should die out.
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:41 am

Yes I know that the PS3 is a superior machine, but if Dev's don't use its full potential it will forever be inferior. So i agree with you.

They really shouldn't do the whole multiple platform thing if they're not all in with each of them. S'like as long they reach the widest audience and at least one platform stands up, it's okay. Any of the platforms falling and dropping by the wayside are kinda excusable. Reviewers too are guilty of making comparisons but the publications don't make enough fuss about punishing the publishers for skimping on certain platforms.

They're kinda the voice of the gamers, but instead of making a big deal of it, they'll humbly suggest a different platform for a game during the review. Assuming all consumers must own multiple platforms. If devs can't deliver the same experience across platforms, then they're not delivering the same game, and they shouldn't be doing it. I was sorry to read the PS3 players' problems on the FO3 forum, but I was having PC issues of my own at one point so.. meh, my sympathy only extended so far.

Got two giant corporations locking horns - while a Nintendo giggles happily - and a bunch of consumers getting great to crappy products depending on which platform the game was optimally designed to play on. Then the kick in the teeth is which gets the most support (or needs it) and access to greater content. lol
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:37 pm

They really shouldn't do the whole multiple platform thing if they're not all in with each of them. S'like as long they reach the widest audience and at least one platform stands up, it's okay. Any of the platforms falling and dropping by the wayside are kinda excusable. Reviewers too are guilty of making comparisons but the publications don't make enough fuss about punishing the publishers for skimping on certain platforms.

They're kinda the voice of the gamers, but instead of making a big deal of it, they'll humbly suggest a different platform for a game during the review. Assuming all consumers must own multiple platforms. If devs can't deliver the same experience across platforms, then they're not delivering the same game, and they shouldn't be doing it. I was sorry to read the PS3 players' problems on the FO3 forum, but I was having PC issues of my own at one point so.. meh, my sympathy only extended so far.

Got two giant corporations locking horns - while a Nintendo giggles happily - and a bunch of consumers getting great to crappy products depending on which platform the game was optimally designed to play on. Then the kick in the teeth is which gets the most support (or needs it) and access to greater content. lol

Agreed, but without competition all games would be like Madden 11. So some competition is healthy for everyone.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:05 pm

http://www.1up.com/news/microsoft-reiterates-pc-gaming-support

Is there any reason why we PC gamers should believe MS/Dave Luehmann? They keep saying "OH we support PC Gaming" and then they pull this and burden us with GfWL.

Bethesda has no excuse. I've bought all my Bethesda games on PC and now this DLC 360 exclusive crap. To make matters worse, they own id now. It's just sick.
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Lauren Dale
 
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:18 pm

Was the uproar this loud when F3 DLC conditions where announced?
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Ebony Lawson
 
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Post » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:48 am

The DLC could just be decorative....like a special skin or something.. Why do people jump the gun and think it will be a fully realized, explorable zone or something.
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Post » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:11 pm

Does one really need to climb to the barricades over a small issue like this?


Obviously they do - since you built a barricade to make a big issue out of it..

Oh and why don't you contribute to the thread instead belittling those who are trying to make sense out of the announcement today.

But I'll wait and watch for that day when Bethesda does something that has you gnashing and screaming just a bit and then I'll quote you..

"Does one really need to climb to the barricades over a small issue like this?"
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