Female Heavy Armor, what's up with the briastplate?

Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:44 am

It's totally superficial, made to look good while still protecting, even exaggerating the features of the wearer.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Museo_archeologico_regionale_paolo_orsi%2C_corazza_in_bronzo%2C_da_tomba_5_necropoli_della_fossa%2C_370-340_ac._01.JPG/220px-Museo_archeologico_regionale_paolo_orsi%2C_corazza_in_bronzo%2C_da_tomba_5_necropoli_della_fossa%2C_370-340_ac._01.JPG
Exactly
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:12 pm

The female armor is not sixy at all, it's just a quick ticket to death.
In RL Armor actually is Asixual, it cost less money to produce and it accomplishes the job.
You know who is going to get killed first if you can see their cleavage, bam sword or arrow right in the chest, or in the case of the wolf armor, in the chest or in the sides.
Which is where the armor's designed to take the blow. The chest is the most heavily-reinforced section of the body. Notice that the two armors that actually USE such feature definition are absolutely impenetrable. Steel plate from the tempering, thickness, and solidity. Ebony because it's made of Indestructium.

In the case of the Ebony armor, you could mount a sword or lance on the front of a locomotive and drive that straight between the briasts and it still wouldn't break.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:17 am

Do people not understand how painful it ould be for a woman that has DD briasts or larger to wear armor meant for men? It would be like forcing a male with huge balls to wear a womans leather g-string. NOT VERY COMFORTABLE, there HAS to be some difference, HAS to be.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:16 pm

mmm_buddah23: Go look up accurate medieval armor - they may have made the circumference a bit bigger or put padding inside - but the armor definitely wouldn't have boob cups built into the armor - it would destroy the integrity of the metal and create weakness plus channel blows.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:09 am

I like it and all, but it just doesn't seem like it would perform the appropriate function.
Just what exactly is it about the female armor that you don't like , because i think it looks fine.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:46 pm

mmm_buddah23: Go look up accurate medieval armor - they may have made the circumference a bit bigger or put padding inside - but the armor definitely wouldn't have boob cups built into the armor - it would destroy the integrity of the metal and create weakness plus channel blows.
Medieval armor was usually made for just men, female soldiers were unheard of, and the armor for the men accentuated their masculine parts in the chest, and so if they made armor for women, it would as well, maybe not to the extremes they go to in skyrim, but they would accentuate their femininity at least a little.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:35 pm

mmm_buddah23: Go look up accurate medieval armor - they may have made the circumference a bit bigger or put padding inside - but the armor definitely wouldn't have boob cups built into the armor - it would destroy the integrity of the metal and create weakness plus channel blows.
Which is why only the armors that can afford to sacrifice practicality for aesthetic have the "boob cups" : Steel Plate is reinforced and padded enough to avoid the drawbacks of working Boob Plate in, while Ebony is outright indestructible. A weakened piece of an indestructible material is still unbreakable. The only real threat they face is the aforementioned sternum-smashing... but that's easy enough to solve simply by using a rigid material contoured so that it keeps a good half inch or so away from the sternum, with significantly less space along the sides, belly, briasts, and top of the armor instead of the sternum.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:33 pm

It's a briastplate, enough said.

Why does female armour in Skyrim have a big bust? Probably because the females in Skyrim have big busts...and because players would complain. It seems to be a design/development policy to have female characters in games with overly emphasised female traits...which really does nothing for legitimising video gaming as a serious art or entertainment medium, despite it's popularity.
Probably fashion, you make big briasts on the briastplate to make it look like you have larger ones. Only downside with it technically is as other say that the bump between them will trap blows,

I guess horn and other decorations on helmets will come off if you hit them whith an blow at least on good gear.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:48 pm



Why does female armour in Skyrim have a big bust? Probably because the females in Skyrim have big busts...and because players would complain. It seems to be a design/development policy to have female characters in games with overly emphasised female traits...which really does nothing for legitimising video gaming as a serious art or entertainment medium, despite it's popularity.
As opposed to TV and Movies right, are you for real what a load of crap. six is in all forms of media and entertainment last time i checked.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:49 am

The long and the short of it is that it is all about eye candy: for which I am a personal fan, as seen here in my http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/sample.jpg in Skyrim and in http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/Solona1.jpg. Skyrim is a fantasy RPG. It's about stepping out of the reality of our current lives; good, bad, or indifferent. Letting go of the stress that otherwise unfortunately makes up our lives the Twenty-first Century.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:33 pm

and the armor for the men accentuated their masculine parts in the chest

Not true. The only armour designed to show of the musculature of its wearer was strickly dress armour and not designed to be fought in. briastplates usually looked like this: http://madartlab.com/files/2011/12/armour238.jpg
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:31 pm

The long and the short of it is that it is all about eye candy: for which I am a personal fan, as seen here in my http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/sample.jpg in Skyrim and in http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/Solona1.jpg. Skyrim is a fantasy RPG. It's about stepping out of the reality of our current lives; good, bad, or indifferent. Letting go of the stress that otherwise unfortunately makes up our lives the Twenty-first Century.
I agree and your Skyrim ladies look quite nice i must say.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:05 pm

Do people not understand how painful it ould be for a woman that has DD briasts or larger to wear armor meant for men?

Yes, which is why you accomodate for them like the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-item-Steel_Armor_Female1.jpg (not plate) and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:SR-item-Dwarven_Armor_Female.jpg armor do. No cups, just slopes :hehe:

But like jallard said, it's all about eye candy. And i too approve :hubbahubba:
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:22 pm

is this thread a joke? I mean does it really matter, its not like their [censored] are hanging out like some games ive seen. Although that would of been nice on the Foresworn armor :P or maybe some Transparent glass armor.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:56 pm

is this thread a joke? I mean does it really matter, its not like their [censored] are hanging out like some games ive seen. Although that would of been nice on the Foresworn armor :tongue: or maybe some Transparent glass armor.

If you were on a PC there are mods that leave the Foresworn ladies topless, along with a wench mod that leaves nothing to the imagination. Precisely why I don't own a console: and never will --so long as video game developers port their games over to PC. I just want to point out too, that two of my advlt friends still play D&D with cards, on their lunch break. Role Playing isn't dead and neither am I yet, that is.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:17 am

If you were on a PC there are mods that leave the Foresworn ladies topless, along with a wench mod that leaves nothing to the imagination. Precisely why I don't own a console: and never will --so long as video game developers port their games over to PC. I just want to point out too, that two of my advlt friends still play D&D with cards, on their lunch break. Role Playing isn't dead and neither am I yet, that is.
I have a pc that has basically the same hardware as yours any tips on loading/installing steam for the first time.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:52 am

I have a pc that has basically the same hardware as yours any tips on loading/installing steam for the first time.

Send me an email @ jigger.allard@gmail.com and I will fill you in as to what i have done. It is easier that way.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:33 pm

Send me an email @ jigger.allard@gmail.com and I will fill you in as to what i have done. It is easier that way.
The Geek Squad will do it for a small fee i'm just going to have them do it , that's probably my best option i'm not very good at tech issues on PC's. I should have called them sooner i would have prefered to play on the PC, good news for Beth i guess now i''m buying the game twice.
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The Geek Squad will do it for a small fee i'm just going to have them do it , that's probably my best option i'm not very good at tech issues on PC's. I should have called them sooner i would have prefered to play on the PC, good news for Beth i guess now i''m buying the game twice.

I just PM'd you with some suggestions regarding the game.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:32 am

Medieval armor was usually made for just men, female soldiers were unheard of, and the armor for the men accentuated their masculine parts in the chest, and so if they made armor for women, it would as well, maybe not to the extremes they go to in skyrim, but they would accentuate their femininity at least a little.
There were some women fighters, there is no evidence of boob plate in any of their gear or in period depictions. Armor doesn't accentuate anything. It's meant to protect the limbs and vital organs. The armor you're talking about for men was dress armor.

Which is why only the armors that can afford to sacrifice practicality for aesthetic have the "boob cups" : Steel Plate is reinforced and padded enough to avoid the drawbacks of working Boob Plate in, while Ebony is outright indestructible. A weakened piece of an indestructible material is still unbreakable. The only real threat they face is the aforementioned sternum-smashing... but that's easy enough to solve simply by using a rigid material contoured so that it keeps a good half inch or so away from the sternum, with significantly less space along the sides, belly, briasts, and top of the armor instead of the sternum.
Half inch? I'm sorry, a half inch of padding is not going to make any difference when what we're talking about is a sharp seam pressed up against a bone. You've heard from armorers and armor experts in this thread what this means and yet you're doubling down on your defense of ebony and steel plate as practical armor. It's almost humorous at this point.

The long and the short of it is that it is all about eye candy: for which I am a personal fan, as seen here in my http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/sample.jpg in Skyrim and in http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee378/jhallard/Solona1.jpg. Skyrim is a fantasy RPG. It's about stepping out of the reality of our current lives; good, bad, or indifferent. Letting go of the stress that otherwise unfortunately makes up our lives the Twenty-first Century.
If you want your characters to look like strippers, that's fine for you. Others have different aesthetic preferences.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:02 pm

I'm not feeling a bit sorry for you Celan .
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:54 pm

I'm not feeling a bit sorry for you Celan .
LOL Good. Why would you?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:49 pm

There were some women fighters, there is no evidence of boob plate in any of their gear or in period depictions. Armor doesn't accentuate anything. It's meant to protect the limbs and vital organs. The armor you're talking about for men was dress armor.

Half inch? I'm sorry, a half inch of padding is not going to make any difference when what we're talking about is a sharp seam pressed up against a bone. You've heard from armorers and armor experts in this thread what this means and yet you're doubling down on your defense of ebony and steel plate as practical armor. It's almost humorous at this point.

If you want your characters to look like strippers, that's fine for you. Others have different aesthetic preferences.


And who are you to assume that because I enjoy eye candy that I am fantasying that these women who are dressed in skimpy armor are strippers? Moreover, I wasn’t aware that appreciating the physique of the female body was inappropriate, much less a sin!?! At sixty-five I happen to be a very well-rounded individual who fears nothing and no one, especially my own sixuality. And, give that I am a Prostate Cancer survivor, I can do what ever it is I desire.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:25 am

LOL Good. Why would you?
I don't, and i think your anti sixy women in Skyrim stance is completly ridiculous in a Mature rated fantasy RPG and that's putting it nicely.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:50 pm

And who are you to assume that because I enjoy eye candy that I am fantasying that these women who are dressed in skimpy armor are strippers? Moreover, I wasn’t aware that appreciating the physique of the female body was inappropriate, much less a sin!?!
Calm down. I don't care what you do in your game. But people who have a different manner of fantasizing (as in, women fighters looking strong and competent) have a right to express that preference, too.

I don't, and i think your anti sixy women in Skyrim stance is completly ridiculous in a Mature rated fantasy RPG and that's putting it nicely.
See above. The women who are sixy to me are those who look like they know what they're doing. Wearing an evening dress or a Vegas showgirl outfit into battle situations... But like I said, do whatever you want to the toons in your game. The people complaining want the same freedom.
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