Female Heavy Armor, what's up with the briastplate?

Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:49 pm

I wish people would realize that this is a fantasy game and not real life. Also, a lot of the male armors in the game fully expose the cheast area or a part of it. A majority of the female armors cover up parts other than the briasts. Now you're complaing about how the armors are too form-fitting. Can't a woman express her sixuality too? I thought that people on this forum weren't so ignorant.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:38 pm

The female armor is not sixy at all, it's just a quick ticket to death.
In RL Armor actually is Asixual, it cost less money to produce and it accomplishes the job.
You know who is going to get killed first if you can see their cleavage, bam sword or arrow right in the chest, or in the case of the wolf armor, in the chest or in the sides.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:32 am

Anyone considered that the armor might be flat underneath and the briasts added on for aesthetic purposes

I actually did but I simply cant believe that designers found those ridiculously shaped armors aesthetically pleasing. Its simply a pretty ugly way of oversixualization.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:08 pm

Same reason some of the armours have giant pauldrons or spikes...for look. This isn’t Mount and Blade, they aren’t going for realism.
Tho I would have preferred that just had it stick out a bit on female heavy armour rather than being shaped to each boob because I think that looks a bit silly most of the time but that is a personal taste thing. Same with Mass Effect, I don't like the boob plates.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:40 am

This isn’t Mount and Blade, they aren’t going for realism.

Oh yeah, the ''but its fantasy'' is back again, you can justify even the stupidest things with it, thats why it never really works.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:54 pm

Its really awful, I can't use any of the plate armor sets because they look so awful and makes my female character look like shes having two giant bee stings on her chest. Only the steel armor (not plate) is halfway acceptable. Which is a shame because I love how most of the armor looks - besides the chest area.

See?

Realistic female armor: http://tinyurl.com/8yg3vzv

Female armor today: http://tinyurl.com/7lrqpek

That big briasted stuff is ridiculous.

The stupid armour makes me want to rethink having heavy metal armour sometimes.
My light armoured and clothing wearing female mage looks good all the time apart from when she wears elven armour for very strong enemies.
My failed heavy armoured females did'nt. :(

I don't get it.
The female armour in Fallout 3 makes sense. That is all flat and across like armour should be. No diferent to male. The power armours solid and flat and looks nearly the same as the male.
What the hell were they thinking with that pathetic and stupid armour?!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:03 pm

I wish people would realize that this is a fantasy game and not real life. Also, a lot of the male armors in the game fully expose the cheast area or a part of it. A majority of the female armors cover up parts other than the briasts. Now you're complaing about how the armors are too form-fitting. Can't a woman express her sixuality too? I thought that people on this forum weren't so ignorant.

The metal armours not form fitting though. Form fitting would be a straight forward flat and across briastplate nearly identical to a males.
And it's not in the least sixy in any way shape or form.
Metal amrours not meant to be form fitting. It's meant to put heavy layers between you and enemy attacks.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:09 am

Oh yeah, the ''but its fantasy'' is back again, you can justify even the stupidest things with it, thats why it never really works.
yeah I know but it’s not like what often get where the guys use armour but the girls are in chainmail bikinis and are relying on the mystical power of six appeal to deflect swords and arrows. This doesn’t strike as off with the style or logic of armour in this series.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:37 pm

What the hell were they thinking with that pathetic and stupid armour?!

Designer: Sooo, I've just finished all the female armor sets, how do you like them?
Executive Producer: What the.... they don't look female enough!
Designer: But thats exactly how realistic armor loo...
Executive Producer: TO HELL with realism, we need more six, six sells!
Designer: But I'm finished with the armor sets, I can't start from scratch again, there's too little time!
Executive Producer: Well, I have an idea, maybe you can just put two giant bumps on the chestpiece?
Designer & Executive Producer: High-five!
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:12 pm

If you take a good close look at the female plate armour, it is body molded..not only in the bust, but around the belly and butt.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:09 am

Designer: Sooo, I've just finished all the female armor sets, how do you like them?
Executive Producer: What the.... they don't look female enough!
Designer: But thats exactly how realistic armor loo...
Executive Producer: TO HELL with realism, we need more six, six sells!
Designer: But I'm finished with the armor sets, I can't start from scratch again, there's too little time!
Executive Producer: Well, I have an idea, maybe you can just put two giant bumps on the chestpiece?
Designer & Executive Producer: High-five!

IRL there was no female armor because there weren't female warriors to design it for.

Sure there was the occasional woman in an army, and some cultures (usually way back in antiquity before advanced armor anyway) might have had quite a few females in their militaries. But it was so rare that it's basically a statistical anomoly.

On earth, women aren't strong enough to be effective warriors in most cases. On Nirn, women are as strong as the men and compose a good deal of the warriors, so female armor has its own design.

If women never wore clothes except for the one in fifty thousand case of a woman doing a job totally monopolized by men, there wouldn't be any women's clothing either.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:33 am

On earth, women aren't strong enough to be effective warriors in most cases. On Nirn, women are as strong as the men and compose a good deal of the warriors, so female armor has its own design.

I beg to http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/09/dahomeys-women-warriors/.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:24 pm

I beg to http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/09/dahomeys-women-warriors/.

I was speaking in terms of medieval melee combat. As technology progresses physical prowess becomes less important than things like skill and accuracy. The only disadvantage females would have in combat today is in things like lugging gear and being able to pick up wounded comrades and carry them.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:39 pm

On earth, women aren't strong enough to be effective warriors in most cases.

I agree, women would be to weak to be meele warriors - today. in the middle age most women were farm workers and had to do physically demanding mens work to ensure the families survival, most of us would be surprised by the strength they had to have back then. I let a few women handle one of my swords (sounds wrong, I know :tongue: ) and they couldn't even pick it up let alone wielding it effectively. I'm absolutely certain that working-class women back then had the physical strength to be effective meele fighters.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:37 pm



I was speaking in terms of medieval melee combat. As technology progresses physical prowess becomes less important than things like skill and accuracy. The only disadvantage females would have in combat today is in things like lugging gear and being able to pick up wounded comrades and carry them.

WTF? Have you ever been in combat?

I can tell you quite plainly, and this isn't mysoginism talking but good old fashioned experience, firstly you can track them down from the smell after a few months without a wash, they do actually have issues with hygiene and disease more than men, and the morale problem caused when a woman is severely injured and screaming (as in being gut shot) over-rides any marginal benefit you get from having a 'politically correct' military. The people who make the decisions to allow women into combat units are either politicians or rear area pogos who have never and will never see any fighting.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:46 am

I was speaking in terms of medieval melee combat. As technology progresses physical prowess becomes less important than things like skill and accuracy. The only disadvantage females would have in combat today is in things like lugging gear and being able to pick up wounded comrades and carry them.

Let me guess. Your idea of medieval melee combat is of big dumb brutes swinging swords around like clubs. Yes?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:02 pm

Let me guess. Your idea of medieval melee combat is of big dumb brutes swinging swords around like clubs. Yes?

And let me guess, you think that they divide martial art competitions into weight classes to protect the big lumbering idiots from the small, nimble, quick guys. Yes?
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:21 pm

And let me guess, you think that they divide martial art competitions into weight classes to protect the big lumbering idiots from the small, nimble, quick guys. Yes?

I do know that Medieval European combat techniques were more sophisticated than most people give it credit for. It was on par with any other region you can think of, including Japan. Speed, agility and endurance were at least as important as physical strength, if not more so. The biggest things that kept women off the battlefield were not physical, they were social. In most cultures, women had a very defined role and place in society. And that was not on the battlefield. It was usually in the home. And breaking those social norms were highly frowned upon.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:51 pm

The Dragonscale doesn't look bad -- it's not boobscale. The heavy armor has always been "boob plate" in these games. After playing a number of MMOs and other games I'm happy that the female armor isn't the Forsworn armor (for heavy armor). Yes I've seen that in MMOs for warrior plate mail for females with a foot of exposed skin in the mid-section and no leg protection. It could be worse.

But let's get real here. Form fitting around the boobs is NOT a good idea for exterior armor. That would be taken care of with the padding. And no I've not tried on the Ebony armor. I usually leave it behind in dungeons because it's too heavy to carry out and not worth that much. I'd rather pick up 10 gems than a suit of armor at this point.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:25 pm

I do know that Medieval European combat techniques were more sophisticated than most people give it credit for. It was on par with any other region you can think of, including Japan. Speed, agility and endurance were at least as important as physical strength, if not more so.

Yes I know western martial arts are very advanced and sophisticated. Strength is just as important in Asian martial arts. I'm not playing on a stereotype and assuming that knights fought like dumb brutes, you're the one playing on the stereotype that being strong makes one less agile or slower in a fight. Like I mentioned before, physical size and strength is such an advantage in battle that they divide fighting sports into weight classes, not speed/agility classes. Speed and agility are also important of cousre, but those aren't as reliant upon weight.

But before we get off on the tangent of strength vs speed/agility, let's consider that in general men are stronger AND faster than women.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:39 pm

Real armor would never be shaped with the briasts defined. Ever.

It would: guide blows, create areas of weakness. Armor would be made to maximize the disperal of a blow's impact and shock.

Any 'boobs' on any armor is unrealistic in a historical sense.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:49 pm

Real armor would never be shaped with the briasts defined. Ever.

It would: guide blows, create areas of weakness. Armor would be made to maximize the disperal of a blow's impact and shock.

Any 'boobs' on any armor is unrealistic in a historical sense.

Just like real helmets wouldn't be made with horns on the side. Practicality takes a back seat sometimes.
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Post » Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:04 am

I continue to be amazed at the array of people popping in with "OMG, it's SO sixist!" "OMG, six sells!", etc, etc, etc....

....when they're talking about the quite conservative (compared to most fantasy/RPG games) armor in Skyrim.

From the reactions, you'd think all the female armors were steel pasties and a thong.
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:59 pm

I continue to be amazed at the array of people popping in with "OMG, it's SO sixist!" "OMG, six sells!", etc, etc, etc....

....when they're talking about the quite conservative (compared to most fantasy/RPG games) armor in Skyrim.

From the reactions, you'd think all the female armors were steel pasties and a thong.
Ah, the wonders of feminism :P
Still, it would be rather entertaining to slay dragons in a daedric bikini. VERY far from my first choice of attire, but still entertaining
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Post » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:44 pm

Designer: Sooo, I've just finished all the female armor sets, how do you like them?
Executive Producer: What the.... they don't look female enough!
Designer: But thats exactly how realistic armor loo...
Executive Producer: TO HELL with realism, we need more six, six sells!
Designer: But I'm finished with the armor sets, I can't start from scratch again, there's too little time!
Executive Producer: Well, I have an idea, maybe you can just put two giant bumps on the chestpiece?
Designer & Executive Producer: High-five!
LOL I wonder if sometimes the artists get these ideas, though.

Clearly I have just not played enough WoW to desensitize myself to just how ridiculous fantasy armor can get. /notgonnahappen
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