Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Rabbit) thread

Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:34 am

A little question, I know it may be a bit minorly spoilery, but I'm eager to know:

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Who put that bundle in the ground near The Fist? Was it Benjen or was it maybe the Children?
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:15 pm

Time to do a little nitpicking about the title of a certain episode...

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Episode 9 "The Rains of Castamere". Honestly I think this title would've fit the Blackwater episode best. A better episode title in my opinion would've been "The Crossing". The titles of the past 2 seasons' penultimate episodes have been locations. They should've kept it this way.
No it wouldn't. The Rains of Castamere have no significance to the Battle of Blackwater. The song however is very significant during this season and is a trigger for a certain event, so it is by far a more fitting title here as a sign of things to come. "The Crossing" would have been a title likely for the first time Robb crossed The Twins but that wasn't exactly the most important thing in that episode either.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:05 am

A little question, I know it may be a bit minorly spoilery, but I'm eager to know:

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Who put that bundle in the ground near The Fist? Was it Benjen or was it maybe the Children?
It's not known,
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it's likely a ranger from years ago. Benjen is not known to be any wiser to the weakness or even presence of Others so it's not likely he has that stash and planked it there by coincidence. I'm also sure it's said in the book that obsidian was given to the Night's Watch by the Children - who stopped giving them away decades, maybe hundreds, of years ago.

If Benjen was in possession of those weapons, that would mean he knew how to kill Others/Wights - which then means Mormont ad the other rangers knew as well, which they don't. Mormont tells you that they have forgotten their real enemy and how to defeat them....meaning those weapons don't belong to any NW character we know. Benjen isn't a master borderline genius ranger. Too much that happens is pinned to him simply because he's Stark.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 am

Is the AWOIAF down for anyone?
http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:08 am

Tomorrow's the big day.

And yeah that website is down like every day.

Including right now :/
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:46 am

It's not known,
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it's likely a ranger from years ago. Benjen is not known to be any wiser to the weakness or even presence of Others so it's not likely he has that stash and planked it there by coincidence. I'm also sure it's said in the book that obsidian was given to the Night's Watch by the Children - who stopped giving them away decades, maybe hundreds, of years ago.

If Benjen was in possession of those weapons, that would mean he knew how to kill Others/Wights - which then means Mormont ad the other rangers knew as well, which they don't. Mormont tells you that they have forgotten their real enemy and how to defeat them....meaning those weapons don't belong to any NW character we know. Benjen isn't a master borderline genius ranger. Too much that happens is pinned to him simply because he's Stark.
Yeah true it has probably been there for a while and anyway there's a decent chance that Benjen is one of them now.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:26 am

Since renewing my HBO subscription, and Showcase airing season one, I've watched season 1 up to "You win or you die". I watched all of season 2 through VOD in a 24 hour period.

I'm glad I did! I caught things I missed the first time around. I found it easier knowing all the characters names this time around to. Admittedly I was kinda lost at times before trying to remember everyone and keep the story straight in my mind. (My memory is not so good at times.)

I have to say between "Walking Dead" and "Game of Thrones" I can't decide which is my favourite. They are about equal on the "I love this show" meter me thinks. It svcks the "Walking Dead" season is over tomorrow. At least "Game of Thrones" takes over for awhile.....then nothing, for a looooong time. :( (WD S. 4 starts October 2013 GoT S. 3 ends June 9, 2013) 4 months that will feel like a year at least. This past few weeks waiting for GoT has been torture.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:03 am

I've only gotten two episodes in to Season 2, but I already have a bit of a beef with some changes. The two I have the biggest beef with is A. Making Bronn the Captain of the City Watch, and B. That six scene with Stannis and the Red Priestess. Maybe it's just me, but that six scene felt VERY unlike Stannis' personality in the books. Also, I dislike the scene in the woods with Jon getting knocked out beyond the Wall.

I don't HATE this season so far, but all these changes feel so unnecessary.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:04 pm

I've only gotten two episodes in to Season 2, but I already have a bit of a beef with some changes. The two I have the biggest beef with is A. Making Bronn the Captain of the City Watch, and B. That six scene with Stannis and the Red Priestess. Maybe it's just me, but that six scene felt VERY unlike Stannis' personality in the books. Also, I dislike the scene in the woods with Jon getting knocked out beyond the Wall.

I don't HATE this season so far, but all these changes feel so unnecessary.
Stannis is nothing if not faithful. Edit: I suppose dutiful is a better word.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:23 am

Stannis is nothing if not faithful. Edit: I suppose dutiful is a better word.
Oh, I know. It even mentions in the book that he was never one for [censored] houses in Kings Landing. I'm fine with artistic license, but twisting a character's personality is a bit much.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:04 am

I've only gotten two episodes in to Season 2, but I already have a bit of a beef with some changes. The two I have the biggest beef with is A. Making Bronn the Captain of the City Watch, and B. That six scene with Stannis and the Red Priestess. Maybe it's just me, but that six scene felt VERY unlike Stannis' personality in the books. Also, I dislike the scene in the woods with Jon getting knocked out beyond the Wall.

I don't HATE this season so far, but all these changes feel so unnecessary.
A) I personally feel it was a good thing to make Bronn the captain, because it not only gives him a more important role play (which is good, because he's an awesome character and liked by the audience), but it also avoids introducing new and rather insignificant characters which will contribute to confusing the audience.

B ) The Stannis-six is harder to justify, but if I recall correctly this was vaguely hinted at in the books, and it's the course the showrunners choose. Personally, I choose to view it as Melisandre and her religion is the only thing that makes Stannis stray away from the course of justice and law.

C)The Jon scene is good because it shows off the White Walkers again. It would feel odd if we had to wait almost 2 whole seasons before seeing them again. (excluding the Wight-encounter in S01E08)
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:57 pm

A) I personally feel it was a good thing to make Bronn the captain, because it not only gives him a more important role play (which is good, because he's an awesome character and liked by the audience), but it also avoids introducing new and rather insignificant characters which will contribute to confusing the audience.
I don't hate Bronn, quite the opposite really, but I liked how the chapter was done in the book far more, where they go over the list, and Slynt basically laughs at the honest one handed guard, and yet he's there the whole time to arrest him.

B ) The Stannis-six is harder to justify, but if I recall correctly this was vaguely hinted at in the books, and it's the course the showrunners choose. Personally, I choose to view it as Melisandre and her religion is the only thing that makes Stannis stray away from the course of justice and law.
See, I never saw (Not that far on the Stannis/Davos plot in the book) their relationship as sixual. I always saw it as more Grima Wormtongue-esque. Her whispering empty promises into Stannis' ear so if he became King, R'hillor would be much more influential in Westeros.

C)The Jon scene is good because it shows off the White Walkers again. It would feel odd if we had to wait almost 2 whole seasons before seeing them again. (excluding the Wight-encounter in S01E08)
Meh, I see them as being far more intriquing the less we see them (Mainly since my imagining of them was this more 'elven' look. With fair, but a pale, almost ghostly dead appearance. These ones look like zombies.)
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:09 am

I don't hate Bronn, quite the opposite really, but I liked how the chapter was done in the book far more, where they go over the list, and Slynt basically laughs at the honest one handed guard, and yet he's there the whole time to arrest him.

See, I never saw (Not that far on the Stannis/Davos plot in the book) their relationship as sixual. I always saw it as more Grima Wormtongue-esque. Her whispering empty promises into Stannis' ear so if he became King, R'hillor would be much more influential in Westeros.

Meh, I see them as being far more intriquing the less we see them (Mainly since my imagining of them was this more 'elven' look. With fair, but a pale, almost ghostly dead appearance. These ones look like zombies.)
Well, these are all valid and understandable opinions!! But I guess the showrunners had their reasons and did what they thought best for the show. Some agree with them and some disagree :tongue:
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:01 am

I don't hate Bronn, quite the opposite really, but I liked how the chapter was done in the book far more, where they go over the list, and Slynt basically laughs at the honest one handed guard, and yet he's there the whole time to arrest him.

See, I never saw (Not that far on the Stannis/Davos plot in the book) their relationship as sixual. I always saw it as more Grima Wormtongue-esque. Her whispering empty promises into Stannis' ear so if he became King, R'hillor would be much more influential in Westeros.

Meh, I see them as being far more intriquing the less we see them (Mainly since my imagining of them was this more 'elven' look. With fair, but a pale, almost ghostly dead appearance. These ones look like zombies.)
I agree with all of these except the Bronn one. I like how it was done in the book better, but I can see this way working better on film. People get confused enough already without introducing more minor characters.

As for twisting certain characters' personalities, there's one more in season 2 that I find far worse than the deal with Stannis.

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It's with Jaime.
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The part where he kills his cousin in his escape attempt. It's very well established in the books that he would never harm any of his family, not even the ones he despises. It bothered me greatly, especially because Jaime is one of my favourite characters in both the books and the TV show.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:52 am

I agree with all of these except the Bronn one. I like how it was done in the book better, but I can see this way working better on film. People get confused enough already without introducing more minor characters.

As for twisting certain characters' personalities, there's one more in season 2 that I find far worse than the deal with Stannis.

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It's with Jaime.
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The part where he kills his cousin in his escape attempt. It's very well established in the books that he would never harm any of his family, not even the ones he despises. It bothered me greatly, especially because Jaime is one of my favourite characters in both the books and the TV show.
I think I'm starting to understand how fans of the Walking Dead Comics feel a little. :laugh:
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:22 am

I think I'm starting to understand how fans of the Walking Dead Comics feel a little. :laugh:
I wouldn't know about that, I have neither seen the show nor read the comics. In fact, all I know about the show is that it has something to do with zombies, and until your post I didn't know there were any comics. :P
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:18 am

I think I'm starting to understand how fans of the Walking Dead Comics feel a little. :laugh:
Oooh the show pisses me off so bad. :swear:
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:18 am

Oooh the show pisses me off so bad. :swear:

Yeah, and I'm thinking tomorrow's season finale will induce more anger. They're gonna kill off more beloved people. Hate that [censored].
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:20 am

I think the Wights look great, lets not forget they are dead people re-animated using the Others' dark magic (however they do it) so they are zombies in a way. As for the Others, they are described in the books as wearing almost transparent armour that appears to change colour in different light and wield crystal swords, it's all very strange as we don't know much about them.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:13 am

Since we're kinda talking about Bronn, that fight in season 1 with Vardis Egen, I think that could've been done better, like outside or something, not in that room with a bunch of people and stairs and stuff.
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:12 pm

Since we're kinda talking about Bronn, that fight in season 1 with Vardis Egen, I think that could've been done better, like outside or something, not in that room with a bunch of people and stairs and stuff.
This, the way the book describes it is people sitting around an arena not in the throne room.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:24 am

Oh, I know. It even mentions in the book that he was never one for [censored] houses in Kings Landing. I'm fine with artistic license, but twisting a character's personality is a bit much.
I thought Stannis plowing Mel was symbolic, since they were getting busy on the table shaped like Westeros.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:20 am


I thought Stannis plowing Mel was symbolic, since they were getting busy on the table shaped like Westeros.

Bad ass scene that was.
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Post » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:40 am

Not long now!
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Post » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:20 pm

Not long now!

For you it's not long, for me it is because I don't have HBO where I live now.
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