General Tullius or Ulfric Stormcloak, who do you like more?

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:22 pm

First a disclaimer: This is not a thread about which side you prefer in the Civil War.

Okay, so do you like General Tullius or Ulfric Stormcloak more?

Personally I like Ulfric a bit moe than Tullius:
  • He is a strong and loyal leader, and a good warrior
  • He is true to the traditions of his people
  • He knows some of the Thu'um
Sure, he have some cons, but I think that just makes him better as a character.

Edit: Better as in more complex.
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Nicole Coucopoulos
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:49 pm

I find Tullius to be too bland for my taste.

And this has nothing to do with what Tullius is. He's just bland
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Chris Duncan
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:22 am

Ulfrics dialogue seems alot more honorable as well.
Personality and the sound of voice, I liked ulfric.
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Sarah Knight
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:00 am

Ulfric stormcloak

Why?

1. During the civil war if the dragonborn sides with the imperials he doesn't hide behind a woman looking pathetic like General Tullius did if the dragonborn sided with the stormcloaks. In fact he was brave enough to accept his faith and even went as far as to tell Tullius to let the dragonborn kill him. What does General Tullius do during the same situation? "What if I surrender?" Tullius is a milk drinker that had no business being a General. Hell Legate Rikke had more balls then Tullius, as she was willing to fight for what she believed in.

2. Although the nords doesn't like the use of magic Ulfric decided that he would use Magic base skill (The Thu'um) as source of power, and it benfited him when he slayed the High King.

3. Ulfric seems to be a better leader.


Edited due to spelling errors.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:04 am

I don't really like any of them that much, but Tullius is okay and I always favored the Imperials (even though I was a Stormcloak during my first playthroughs).
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Aaron Clark
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:44 am

Tullius' disregard for Nordic culture and traditions sickens me. By what right exactly does he claims that Skyrim is "part of the Empire", if he doesn't bother to respect her?

So it's Ulfric for me. Besides, he looks pretty true to his words even while being a leader.
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Leticia Hernandez
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:39 pm

Neither, really. I'm not fond of Ulfric, but I can't say I prefer Tullius. So neither.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:02 pm

I don't really like any of them that much, but Tullius is okay and I always favored the Imperials (even though I was a Stormcloak during my first playthroughs).

Agree with this. My first character was a Stormcloak, but overall I prefer the Empire.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:23 pm

I also like to add in that http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g322/Raidensama/Skyrim/TESV2012-03-0218-02-40-42.jpg Hes rather rude if you ask me. He also allows innocent people (dragonborn) to be wrongfully executed without being on their list. Comes to show you his true personality.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:45 pm

By looks Ulfric. He looks pretty epic in his jarl coat while shouting....

Really though his racism automatically makes me hate him. I am not a fan of Tullius either.
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phillip crookes
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:20 am

By looks Ulfric. He looks pretty epic in his jarl coat while shouting....

Really though his racism automatically makes me hate him. I am not a fan of Tullius either.

Ulfric is not a racist.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:25 pm

Ulfric is not a racist.
Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.
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JUan Martinez
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:00 pm

Tullius. He may not understand Nord customs, but he's still willing to fight for them and help them rebuild. Plus, unlike Ulfric, he's a decent and honorable man.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:27 pm

Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.
He is pro-nord and a nationalist, but I don't think he is racist in the sense many on this forum will claim. Nothing in the game supports views that he want to throw out or eradicate other races in Skyrim. He just wants Skyrim to follow Nord traditions.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:35 pm

He is pro-nord and a nationalist, but I don't think he is racist in the sense many on this forum will claim. Nothing in the game supports views that he want to throw out or eradicate other races in Skyrim. He just wants Skyrim to follow Nord traditions.

Right. I wrestled with the Stormcloak/Imperial choice for weeks, and finally went with Ulfric's boys (and girls). What finally swung it was the elitist a-hole high elves. Their mission in this game seems to be to make you hate them and their policies, in particular the always-destructive repression of religion. Tullius and Ulfric are both fine as leaders and individuals. But one of them sided with the wrong cause.

Then again, my new character is an empire-backing high elf. Heh. I'll have to work hard at keeping in character with this one.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Ulfric :)
Like the voice actor,And i just like ulfric as a character
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:29 am

Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.
Ulfrich as long with others has alot of bad memories with other races (mostly elves), and clearly doesnt trust them, and properly hates them too (atleast the elves). He is a misunderstood man.
Tullius. He may not understand Nord customs, but he's still willing to fight for them and help them rebuild. Plus, unlike Ulfric, he's a decent and honorable man.
You gotta be kidding me? Tullius disrespects the Nord customs and you say he is honorable? Explain please.

Only good thing i know about Tulius is he sounds fun, and he is a good general. Also i like he′s armor.
So ima go for Ulfrich, as he accepts he′s death, which shows just how honorable he is (even compared to Tullius) :D
And btw i have always been a Nord in TES so it kinda fits me best to fight for the Stormcloacks.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:51 pm


Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.

Its simple answer for ya. It has nothing at all to do with race, it has to do with money. They aint paying taxes, u know that money u throw at govt so they have money to repair and build stuff. Hes fighting a war and cant spend money on something thats not gonna replenish itself at this time. Its all to do with money, and they havent given him any to use to repair their stuff, so since their not paying taxes then they are reponsible for fixing their own stuff.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:53 pm

Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.

Hey guys lets divert critical war resources into helping a group of people that said they're not going to aid us in the war, don't pay taxes, and are self governed.

"Great plan Ulfric! You da man!"
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:44 am

Why doesn't he change the conditions for Argonians and Dunmer? Because of a few people in town? He is at least discriminating if he doesn't care about them.

It's not Ulfrics responsibility to change the conditions for the Argonians and Dunmer. If they don't like their conditions then perhaps they should work a tad harder to earn their way to the top?

The other dunmers in Windhelm should look at Belyn Hlaalu as a role model and stop their chronic complaining about how the nords treat them like dirt.

Belyn's philosophy is this: "The best way for us to win the Nords' respect is through hard work." an addition "Too many dark elves in Windhelm complain about the way we're treated. What good does complaining do?"

Had Ulfric been a real racist he wouldn't had allowed Belyn to own a piece of land in windhelm and he wouldn't tolerate a nord working for a dark elf either. I never once heard him saying "Nord power!" or said anything derogative about them either.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:53 pm

Gen. Tul has my vote. Idk but since the beginning of the game I've never really viewed mr. Stormcloak as the great leader of the uprising. I just see him as a person who wants total power and is using his men for his own personal gain. But that's my view.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:59 pm

actually I don't like none of them, that's why I usually do the civil war last
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:42 am

Gen. Tul has my vote. Idk but since the beginning of the game I've never really viewed mr. Stormcloak as the great leader of the uprising. I just see him as a person who wants total power and is using his men for his own personal gain. But that's my view.
Actually, saying that Ulfric is not after personal gain would be illogical, he obviously is. However I think he is very similar to Bhelen Auducan in some ways, and one of them is that even though he is in it for personal gain it doesn't mean Skyrim can't benefit from it.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:30 pm

I never tought that Tulius disprespects Nords. I always considered his attitude against their culture as a way of showing his view on the Civil War. It's a waste of resources, rather then prepering for the war with the Dominion they are fighting each other. All because of pride and stubbornnes. Even before his death if You chose the Stormcloaks side his last words filled with a regret that this War ever happened.

Hiding behind Rikke? He is a general. As far as I know and I know little about army, generals never fight in the front lines but he even did that in the last battle.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:07 am

I never tought that Tulius disprespects Nords. I always considered his attitude against their culture as a way of showing his view on the Civil War. It's a waste of resources, rather then prepering for the war with the Dominion they are fighting each other. All because of pride and stubbornnes. Even before his death if You chose the Stormcloaks side his last words filled with a regret that this War ever happened.

Hiding behind Rikke? He is a general. As far as I know and I know little about army, generals never fight in the front lines but he even did that in the last battle.
when the front lines are lost to the enemy and he has no army to lead then he has to fight. remember, he became the general because he must have had some fighting skill. And besides, the world skyrim is set in every has to fight
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