Zero chance Ill read the other pages haha

My mother plays multiplayer first person shooters more often than I do...

I managed to trick my sister into playing assassin's creed. Before that, she'd only played oblivion and skyrim. Now she has played assassin's creed 1, 2 and currently doing brotherhood. She managed to resisnt assassin's creed for three years, but now she finally started playing them.

I know quite a few gaming-chicks on PS3 who play demon's souls and dark souls. They are highly skilled at those too.

I know plenty of girl gamers, some of them are close friends, and when they play, they play for as long as me. One of them plays games from BlackOps to Skyrim, the other has just started branching out her library from World At War to include Kinect games and the Condemned and Dead Space titles.
Girl gamers just blow the whole "you don't hit a girl" thing out of the water. I mean do I shoot her cyberself even though it's a guy or does this still reflect me hitting girls *She kills me* Now it's fair game

Good news!! So does about 90% of Hawaii!!! Large quantities of Hawaii residents move to Alaska! That must mean you are from Hawaii!!!!! Full-proof opinionated fact right there!! Zero hypocrisy!

Summed up perfectly, really. Girls playing games is nothing new nowadays, and girls who flaunt it to try and attract guys aren't doing anyone any favours.

Speak for yourself!

Actually I think the girls are trying to get more games designed around themselves as a major fanbase instead of just getting basic appeasemant-city as their toss outs from many game developers everywhere. So... much like equal rights movements and the like, they are just trying to get the some equality and fair treatment so the gaming market will cater to them a little bit more. Almost every major developer makes the game geared mostly for men or boys as their target demographic even today. RPG's aside you have very few games that give them another option other than as one girl put it earlier (paraphrasing!) "getting in another sausage".

Now I am a male gamer and I do not think girls should flaunt there gamer status like the OP did but I can understand the frustration that she might have and the gratitude that a game made her feel like it catered more to her than it did to the male gender. Even though it still was pretty geared towards males with the whole "concept of the Dovahkiin as a Nord man" thing. There is progress being made though in regards to more games catering to both genders so that is good imo.

My wife's a hardcoe gamer( just watched her best resident evil 4 on professional with a handgun she never upgraded! It was legit!) and I love it. That was how we connected but the only problem is when I want play skyrim and she wants to play too lol.

Two copies of the game and two places where it can be played = win. We had to do that in our house when skyrim came out.

How should the gaming market cater to women more, though? I'm not sure I understand your statement. I have either missed something, or Skyrim really is overtly masculine even if you play a female character. I've always played female characters in games and never felt that the games have been more geared towards masculine characters.

I'm also not sure what you mean by getting games designed "around themselves as a major fanbase." Now I'm not a massive gamer, I've only played a comparatively small selection of games so I am sincerely asking this question as someone with relatively little experience in the wider gaming world, but what games are geared mostly for men? I understand that you might mean that some games force you to play as a man, but in that respect is it right to design games that allow you to play both genders? Then you should be able to play all races, all ages, all weight and height sizes....characters are designed to fit the story, be they male or female. It's like reading books in which the protagonist is a male. No-one goes around complaining that the book had no option for a female protagonist. The characters are designed and I presume the gender is set in order to make the storytelling much easier, rather than having to give an alternate gender for every single gender-focused piece of dialogue. I've never found playing a gender opposite to my own to detract from the story and the game, because it is like reading a book, or watching a movie. But maybe I'm an exception. Oftentimes men are forced to play female characters, too.

PersonWorm, I think the general thought-process is something like this: guys like to play games where they get to kill stuff or show off their skill, and girls like to play games that pass the time and/or engage them on a more social/personal level. Broadly, this is true.

Edit: if we accept the above as true, and we evaluate the current gaming market, we begin to see that there aren't many games (which are in the mainstream and are of high production value) that cater to women well.

Ugh, you 'men' are all the same!
Trust you two to be picking on girl gamers.

Excuse me while I benchpress a train and donate testosterone to the hospital.

TeeHee:3 is a...

So's Troyatz. That's the joke.

Shh, don't blow my cover! I'm blending in.

So that's what the fake moustache is for.

I just realized what I said is the same thing everyone else has been saying

It's fake...?

Rev, you don't just go about telling people my moustache is fake!

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35xqw1/



My others sister plays solitaire on our computer.. 24/7. I tried to tell her I've got oblivion installed with mods on the PC.. just put in the disc and play that instead.. But noo.

You do not speak for the majority. You have steadily ignored the women and men in this thread who are this demographic you are supposedly talking about. I worded my comment carefully but let me rephrase- reasonably secure people in a relationship (romantic or friends) will generally willingly try new stuff - whether its an author, an activity, hobby... something... that their partner/friend is into enthusiastically. Part of the appeal is certainly as a way to find common interests, but the other part is that is how people get exposed to new hobbies/ideas/activities. Sometimes they get enthusiastic about it and stick with it for longer than the relationship. Sometimes the enthusiasm fades regardless of the status of the relationship.

But eh. Perhaps your circle of acquaintance is different.

(Also - no one I know - in a wide circle of friends and family - across a broad age spectrum and covering both men and women - watches shows like Real Housewives or whatever. There is certainly an audience out there, and perhaps some of my friends do watch it as a secret guilty pleasure, but that could be either a male or female. Don't get me started on those types of shows, showcasing ignorance, incivility and bad taste in clothes - I am already wandering off topic. )

I thought she was wearing http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8pOOojZSe74/TKsk41CjiWI/AAAAAAAAB8k/K8smlUTRARQ/s400/nose-moustache-glasses.jpg!

Maybe she is more into strategy?!