What if all she wants is for someone to stick their hands down her pants?

I have no idea what the background is on this. However, I agree with this.

It's fine to know what you want in your relationships, but if it's not what this other person is looking for you have to realize that your ideals are not the laws of the human race. Not everyone has to agree that relationships have to mean something. Not everyone has to want six. That's just the way personal choice works.

And heck, if you're a teen then the majority of teenage relationships are all about experimentation - or that's generally how they start. People need to drop the RomCom nonsense.

If you're modest run way and find someone else who has better morals, a woman who's looking for guy just so they can get laid is one who:
1: Has been around the block a few times.
2: Has commitment issues.
3: Is more likely to cheat on you at a moments knowtace.

That's an incredibly sixist thing to say.


The fact is, male or female, if you're in high school and looking for a life partner, you're in the minority. Which means everyone else is (assuming they're looking at all) just looking for some fun. Whether that fun involves six or just a few dates with someone nice is irrelevant, it doesn't equate to a lack of morals, to commitment issues, or to infidelity.

Their are lovable drunks...most drunks are [censored] hilarouse and its fun to mess with them

And I know a few guys in my class that drink all the time and no bad [censored] happens. But it only takes ONE time.

And casual six gives you STD's. Unless you know the person, not just meet some random girl at some random party and say "hey wanna go to bed with me"

My advice to all of the people in this thread currently in high school and dishing out advice and wisdom on dating, relationships, and finding a partner for life would be to stop posting and go find a girl that will let you put your hand down her pants.

Its good practice for the future... Then again I am still with the same girl I was with in Highschool

What if they already have and just felt like making a contribution to the discussion from a viewpoint that is relevant?

Or does that not fit the standards that must be met to give some insight? Only millionaire playboys allowed?

Wisdom comes from experience, and those who have had less time to see many perspectives are at an inherent disadvantage, no matter how compelled they might feel to make their views heard. Relevant yes, but still less informed.

Or are you of the opinion that everyone's viewpoint is naturally equal, and that the young are instantly knowledgable about everything?

If your broke, or like money, dont date in HS

All you "informed" folks can still learn from the unwise, whether you learn what they intended or not. It is never a bad thing to hear all opinions, no matter where they come from.

Viewpoints being equal != young being instantly knowledgeable. (I know what you mean though and no, of course more experience means more knowledge).

However I see no reason to presume we all have no experience (plus I don't see how putting your hands down a girls pants directly relates to being in a relationship - seems like a very immature way of suggesting superiority), of course the restrictions of time point towards significantly less experience. I'd argue that I have enough experience of dating during high school to give my thoughts on it though.

Rare words spoken and even rarely followed on the interwebz.

Not disputing that, only the likelihood that this will actually be the case. Evaluating the potential value of a source of information is another stage of wisdom.

I suspect I've been bamboozled into playing devil's advocate somewhat, since I'm fairly certain EvilFish wasn't being entirely serious.

And yes, there comes a time when the level of information one gathers does plateau, and further investigation is mere confirmation of the previous. However, I also know that I myself was an insufferable know-it-all when I was younger (and perhaps still am) who would always insist that my opinions mattered just as much as those more experienced, when in fact I now know just how naive, narrowminded, and inept my evaluations were. One of the things you get to say when you're older is "I know, I've been there" - and not the hollow "I knowwwww" teenagers often throw at advlts to make themselves appear more worldly, but the knowingness of actual, hard-lived and often bitter trial and error.

Nevertheless, there are those whose opinions are perfectly valid despite their derth of years. The trick is being able to pick them out from the background noise.

Yes, it is. But if the source is not valuable, there is a different kind of value to be had just in that.

Dammit...I never pick up on internet sarcasm/whatever.

I have an idea of what you mean with the whole "been there" thing, it's something I've experienced already since growing up a bit
Anyway, I'm kind of tired so I'm just going to leave it at: "everyone is right!"

I regret nothing I did in highschool. I even met my fiance in highschool.

If it makes you happy, do it. You're still a minor, you'll be alright.

Just dont cheat on him/her.... especially if you think s/hes off her/him rocker.

My post was mostly in jest, but the point I was trying to make was that there are far too many posts in this thread that equate high school relationships to serious business. They're not. It's a time for experimenting and having fun. Sure, some long-term relationships may develop out of that, but most of the time, they won't. So, in my humble opinion, it's best just to enjoy it and, honestly? Find as many girls that will let you put your hand down their pants as possible.

You're quite right, reading between the lines is just as important. Even "informed" opinions should be evaluated for bias, and not entirely be taken at face value.

You and me both - I've been up for over 24 hours and walked about six miles in the snow/sleet (in both directions!) looking for a place to stay in a new city. Yeah, life is simpler when you're young.

And never ever break up over text. Be a man and do it face to face.

Definition of an expert: someone who has made every conceivable mistake in a very narrow field. In this case, the opposite six.

Weeeerrlllll.... I would add a caveat (as I did in my first post) not to get carried away with it. Hormones are a damn finicky thing to deal with, and the urge to have six can override common sense in many circumstances. Some of which can land you in all kinds of trouble, and may not be easy to fix. Disappointment is temporary, but regret lasts a lifetime.

I really hope you don't mean to apply that principle to every aspect of a minor's life.

Sorry but I've known and dated the exact women I was talking about---it's why I'm single and stay single.

In technical terms, you were burnt once and can't get over it?

Dunno what to tell you. You kinda have to want to get past that stuff, and you clearly don't. Everyone gets burnt, it's not just you.

More like 5 times after the 5 time I quit dating I got tired getting broken heart syndrome I don't need that crap. The rest of my judgement comes from just watching other people weither it's on tv or out in public---heck even one of my Dad's ex-girlfriends is a great exsample of what I was talking about...all she did was string him along and did very little for him or contribute anything to their relationship. She only wanted him for money and nothing else---it took nearly a year for my Dad to finally realized what she was doing and how bad she was for him---hell even me, my sister and our friends tried to get it through his head that she was no good him and he didn't listen, but finally they broke up. The woman he's with now is a much better improvement although there's some minor things but there's more good that outways that. I wish I can find a woman like the one my dad's dating but saddly fate has me on the stay single list and that an't changing anytime soon.

Many people are happy single. More freedom and money.