An Idea of how Vampires and Werewolves Could Have Been Done : V - Skyrim

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:04 am

I personally find vile's voice annoying actually.

I think that is point though. Vile+Barbus=Comedy Gold and we all know comedy is annoying as a base

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:37 pm

By doing anything you mean butchering their already established lore? As IF they did something wrong? Sir, there IS something wrong.

In your opinion. It's their lore to change as they will. You can't tell a creator how to handle what /they/ created. Go make you our book or game if you dislike it. But it's an insult.

And, mods are fan creations. Feel free to do what you want with them. But, they aren't canon, cause they weren't made by Bethesda. Personally I wouldn't use them.

If you dislike the game so much, and how they handled their creation, then do what you will with mods.

But, the game is good how it is by itself.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:55 pm

I personally find vile's voice annoying actually.

Better than Sheo's tbh.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:42 am

I thought getting attacked at stage 4 was annoying and wanted it removed but eventually i adapted and it wasn't a problem anymore but now with dawnguard i find being a stage 4 vamp kinda boring now and i wanted to be attacked by people again

Hey don't give bethesda any ideas lol though they can feel free to add random vampire hunter/vigil of stendarr attacks.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:32 am

Yeah, I was pissed too because the first thing I did when I got skyrim was to find vampires and While I still became one, I felt cheated.
You know what is sadder? Apparently NPC vampires get the extra unarmed damage from something called "vampire touch" check the uesp skyrim:vampires.

I just checked this is true if you could have that perk I would of made an unarmed character.

edit:I swear in dawnguard you get attacked by them if you are a vampire? So there is already hunter attacks.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:59 pm

In your opinion. It's their lore to change as they will. You can't tell a creator how to handle what /they/ created. Go make you our book or game if you dislike it. But it's an insult.

And, mods are fan creations. Feel free to do what you want with them. But, they aren't canon, cause they weren't made by Bethesda. Personally I wouldn't use them.

If you dislike the game so much, and how they handled their creation, then do what you will with mods.

But, the game is good how it is by itself.

How would you like it if your favorite series up and decided that everything they wrote previously was a lie and they would just use something generic and "1 size fits all" from now on?

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 pm

In your opinion. It's their lore to change as they will. You can't tell a creator how to handle what /they/ created. Go make you our book or game if you dislike it. But it's an insult.

And, mods are fan creations. Feel free to do what you want with them. But, they aren't canon, cause they weren't made by Bethesda. Personally I wouldn't use them.

If you dislike the game so much, and how they handled their creation, then do what you will with mods.

But, the game is good how it is by itself.

Most the the "innovative" stuff you see in skyrim was stolen from mods bethesda depends on modders not the other way around.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:15 pm

I just checked this is true if you could have that perk I would of made an unarmed character.

The Ring of the Beast give your character the Khajiit unarmed bonus

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:26 am

How would you like it if your favorite series up and decided that everything they wrote previously was a lie and they would just use something generic and "1 size fits all" from now on?

It would no longer be my favorite series.

But, that's not what happened here at all.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:34 am

But, the game is good how it is by itself.

Opinion.

It still is lore. While Bethesda can make their lore, it is upsetting and annoying to many fans that they constantly contradict and change their lore in the constant basis. We enjoy Bethesda's games and appreciate them, but it is an insut to the fans when they change something we grew accustomed to and considered as "fact" in the Elder Scrolls universe. If you like it, that's fine, but I am still not going to kick rocks.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:55 am

Most the the "innovative" stuff you see in skyrim was stolen from mods bethesda depends on modders not the other way around.

Bethesda does not depend on modders. Modders would have nothing without Skyrim...since they are modding Skyrim? Can't see how you got that logic.

Look, have fun with you mods. But, don't get a complex about it. Wow.

Bethesda supports modders sure, they give you tools to use even. But, that's all.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:48 am

I just checked this is true if you could have that perk I would of made an unarmed character.

edit:I swear in dawnguard you get attacked by them if you are a vampire? So there is already hunter attacks.

Yeah i was minding my business one day and taking in the sights and the next thing i know theres a crossbow bolt lodged in the side of my head lol

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 pm

It would no longer be my favorite series.

But, that's not what happened here at all.

Yes it is. The Volkihar are treated as the Order, which is a SEPARATE variant of Vamprism. They dressed up the Vamps in skyrim with a Clan/Court system which is not how the different versions work. They defied all the previous lore of Vampires from the past and decided to just slap on the quickest to implement version.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:57 am

Yes it is. The Volkihar are treated as the Order, which is a SEPARATE variant of Vamprism. They dressed up the Vamps in skyrim with a Clan/Court system which is not how the different versions work. They defied all the previous lore of Vampires from the past and decided to just slap on the quickest to implement version.

/Conversation.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:33 am

Bethesda does not depend on modders. Modders would have nothing without Skyrim...since they are modding Skyrim? Can't see how you got that logic.

Look, have fun with you mods. But, don't get a complex about it. Wow.

Bethesda supports modders sure, they give you tools to use even. But, that's all.

With out modders to create innovative stuff for there game beth wouldn't have anything to use and beth only supports mods for publicity and the fact that they don't have any real creativity of there own.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:25 pm

Yes it is. The Volkihar are treated as the Order, which is a SEPARATE variant of Vamprism. They dressed up the Vamps in skyrim with a Clan/Court system which is not how the different versions work. They defied all the previous lore of Vampires from the past and decided to just slap on the quickest to implement version.

Its a shame that majority of the vampire mods on nexus are not lore friendly either I am still waiting on one that is.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:55 pm

In your opinion. It's their lore to change as they will. You can't tell a creator how to handle what /they/ created. Go make you our book or game if you dislike it. But it's an insult.

And, mods are fan creations. Feel free to do what you want with them. But, they aren't canon, cause they weren't made by Bethesda. Personally I wouldn't use them.

If you dislike the game so much, and how they handled their creation, then do what you will with mods.

But, the game is good how it is by itself.

You act as though Bethesda can't be topped. The OP just topped their game design. You're right in that they can change the lore, and do anything they please. But, not without pissing off a lot of fans. hardcoe fans like you might stick with them, but I'm not willing to waste money on such trashy design, and I bet a lot of other people won't be willing to either. Skyrim has a lot of potential, but Bethesda is killing it quickly.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:57 am

Opinion.

It still is lore. While Bethesda can make their lore, it is upsetting and annoying to many fans that they constantly contradict and change their lore in the constant basis. We enjoy Bethesda's games and appreciate them, but it is an insut to the fans when they change something we grew accustomed to and considered as "fact" in the Elder Scrolls universe. If you like it, that's fine, but I am still not going to kick rocks.

It can be upsetting and annoying I agree.

And I didn't say I liked it. I like the game, but I don't like when they change their lore.

But, saying 'Bethesda should take notes' is an insult to them. There's a difference between being displeased, to calling them out, to thinking you can do better.

The game is good on its own and I agreed you with that its annoying and upsetting. I'm just saying there is a line.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:18 am

With out modders to create innovative stuff for there game beth wouldn't have anything to use and beth only supports mods for publicity and the fact that they don't have any real creativity of there own.

That's out of line and an insult to them.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:09 pm

Yeah i was minding my business one day and taking in the sights and the next thing i know theres a crossbow bolt lodged in the side of my head lol

Yes but sadly they stop once you wipe out the leaders of the dawnguard....well I have not encountered anymore since then anyway.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:41 pm

It can be upsetting and annoying I agree.

And I didn't say I liked it. I like the game, but I don't like when they change their lore.

But, saying 'Bethesda should take notes' is an insult to them. There's a difference between being displeased, to calling them out, to thinking you can do better.

The game is good on its own and I agreed you with that its annoying and upsetting. I'm just saying there is a line.

And who draws that line? You? That is your point of view. And just that.

Bethesda CAN learn from fans and take notes. Why do you think they added werewolves in Morrowind? Crossbows and werewolves in Skyrim? Dragons in lore? Popular demand. They listen to fans. Butchering lore is an insult to the fans.

» Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:45 pm

That's out of line and an insult to them.

There lack of creativity is an insult to themselves. Deal with it.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:10 am

And who draws that line? You? That is your point of view. And just that.

Bethesda CAN learn from fans and take notes. Why do you think they added werewolves in Morrowind? Crossbows and werewolves in Skyrim? Dragons in lore? Popular demand. They listen to fans. Butchering lore is an insult to the fans.

^ This

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:02 am

Personally I think they should hire REL_Dovahkin to pitch ideas to them, because he has a lot of good ones. He also has common sense, which Bethesda seems to lack.

» Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:45 am

And who draws that line? You? That is your point of view. And just that.

Bethesda CAN learn from fans and take notes. Why do you think they added werewolves in Morrowind? Crossbows and werewolves in Skyrim? Dragons in lore? Popular demand. They listen to fans. Butchering lore is an insult to the fans.

And that is your point of view. And just that.

They listen to fans, that is how a business works.

Get off your powertrip. You should be grateful they listen to you. Not demanding. Their are companies that do a lot worse.

It's not an insult to fans, they didn't go out of their way to hurt you. They did what they wanted to with their creation.

You are the one insulting them.