i feel ESO may ruin The Elder Scrolls for good. i know Bethesda does not, however, that is something that no one can tell. though, what a lot of people love, at least to my understanding, about ES is that it is single player. i feel like TES is not meant to be an mmo. i really can't believe this is happening - i thought Bethesda had more sense than to release a game that is loved, because it is single-player, because it has a good community, mods, etc. - and because of those things TES has made it as far as it has.

also, TES is not a high fantasy like a lot of the mmo's out. it will probably end up being more like AoC - which was just brutal, unenjoyable, primarily PVP, etc. - imo.

i think Bethesda/Zenimax, etc. would do a lot better making an mmo that was not based on or around TES.

if the company wishes to make an mmo, which i think is a great idea as long as it is not ES, then please do.

i have to wonder if this is a sleezy move by the company - what i mean is Skyrim was huge, and then not long after Bethesda releases ESO? odd, odd indeed.

TES GAMES ARE MASTERPIECES, IMO, THEY ARE SUBLIME ART. BRILLIANTLY THOUGHT OUT. FILLED WITH GLORIOUS LORE, ARCHITECTURE, ENVIRONMENTS. THIS WILL PROBABLY RUIN NOT ONLY THE GAMES BUT THE COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS THE GAMES.

why not make a mmo other than TES - and continue to develop TES provinces as single player games?

this is not really being made by bethesda. bethesda will still make the original TES games. This is all being profit by the Zenimax online and to bring new fan-base around this famous rich lore and name. Your question still stands will this destroy the original fanbase around TES or being a new fanbase in. For fact this is going to change the format of the lore and gameplay but no one really knows if this going to work or fail until its released and the fan-base new or old how they deal with it. Im in the middle of this project and will buy the game but im also expecting it to fail at the same time. I hope im wrong and hope it will work or be changed, time can only tell when its released.

Bethesda, Zenimax, Zenimax Online - whatever, it really does not matter. The point is I think they are probably going to ruin TES franchise - at least in the end.

Relax guys, they arent going to stop making single playing, its normal companies brand popular products to other thing. They may even make RTS one day. Elder Scroll just isnt going to disappear from the game world.

I don't see the validity of this statement, I have no doubts an MMO alienates some TES players, however I don't foresee when a new single player TESVI rolls around that those who chose not to get involved in the MMO are going to refuse to buy it just because they didn't like the MMO, granted there's always those few who will but you get what I am saying.

It'd be like a Final Fantasy fan refusing to play any new Final Fantasy game because they hated Dissidia (bad anology I know, but couldn't come up with another on short notice.)

I've no problem with TESO or the idea of an online game.

What I dislike is how generic most MMOs are and how limited in game play is, the inconsistent worlds of constant spawning, the game mechanics ... limitations ... limitations. Most are the same old thing with a new wrapper

Now if they had done something different with it - that could be amazing.

Wow man, you know that there's a thing called "Taste"? everyone has a different one, i don't see any problem in TES being a mmorpg for a change, but i wish to see it done right..
TES:O lacks in so many TES elements that you can consider it just a spin-off and simple ignore it if you want.

TESO wont kill the TES series for a number of reasons . The main reason is it has very little to do with the single player game in pretty much most aspects, Lore and races being the exception. So rest in peace because and the cash cow it is will keep rolling out for years to come and Zeni will need that money to prop up this silly departure from what TES really is with TESO. Dont get me wrong I actually wanted a TES MMO just not the rubbish I seen so far.

I agree

I think it could succeed if they make the game feel more like you are playing a single player TES game.

I wish them luck. Hope it succeeds

My greatest fear is that this becomes a succes, and Zenimax won't fund a new Elder Scrolls game made by Bethesda for a long time, or maybe never again. I can accept they are making an MMO, I would rather they not, but I guess it was inevitable. What I can not accept however is that they're making it such a 'cartoony' high fantasy and unrealistic third person hotkey MMO like everyone else does. I mean, this is The Elder Scrolls, they had the chance to make something truly origional, yet they just copy the competitors to be safe. Way to ruin a possibly great game.

But that's not all, what I also fear is that we will see all of Tamriel in a cartoony and unsatisfying way. If that happens, Bethesda has even less reason to make a new Elder Scrolls game because all the provinces are there allready. It wouldn't make sence to recreate a province when it has allready been done so recently. I fear this might also be a reason Zenimax doesn't want to fund another TES game and this may be the end of the series.

i agree with some of your aspects but i doubt this will ruin or end the series because they put this TESO based in the 2nd era when the provinces changed in the courses of the new TES games. Bethesda also can do if this does all fail; wipe it under the carpet and act like it didnt exist because it was develope by Zenimax Online, that many other game companies have done alot back in DOS computer era -experimental game series that got lost in the light. Bethesda will still make games and this TESO will be base on the fans if they want to accept it or not but we can only wait and see how this unfolds

Imo - very well said. These are a few of the types of things I am thinking also.

I don't have a problem with them making it an MMO, I've wanted them to for some time. However, I have an issue with the arch type they are going with. Hot bar, clickies, and restricted classes. Sure they had classes before but you could still branch out and use other skills that were not your "Major" skills. Also, I wholeheartedly disagree with the combat style they have chosen. Hot bars and clickies. No. Just no. For oh so many reasons. Combat should be done in the same style as the last three TES games. Darkfall online had this right after a patch or two from what i understand and it works very well now.

Also the graphics. Sorry, but If you can't come close to skyrim graphics I'm not even interested. The screen shots we have so far look like something out of the mid 90s by comparison. Utter trash as far as i'm concerned.

Bethesda set the bar really high for TES. So far it doesn't look like this other company will be able to deliver 1/8th the game a single player TES would be. I'll bet we see something like we did with the last few MMOs. Hype is really high, People are really excited, sales are huge, then a month in the game is a ghost town because there is nothing to keep people. The devs got their pay out and bolted to the next project.

Fear+Speculation = Uncertainty, Chaos and Rage in the forums.

Wait and see before you react, your blood pressure will thank you for it!

Of course it is a huge mistake.

Exactly my fears as well. There is only enough room for one TES series and my only hope is that TES Online fails so bad that it doesn't come back. This isn't a totally separate company making TES Online, this is a company that OWNS Bethesda. They have the final say and I'm afraid what that might be if TES Online is successful.

We needed this. This series needed this. It was time for TES to branch out and try new things before it was too late.

Nope, not a chance, Beth will go on making TES games just as they did before, like nothing happened, that's why Beth told Zen that they had to make their own game within their TES IP, and thats why Zen chose the blank period in the second era.




Also stop trying to speak for the whole of TES's fans. there are millions of TES fans and a huge number of them want a online TES game, yes even in this form.

I don't think he was saying this for all TES Fans when he stated " I Think " in his sentence representing his own opinion on the matter. Thats what Forums are made for throwing your own opinions out on how you feel

For once I agree with you but the "try new things" is a bit hard to swallow given what we know so far seems like any other MMO out there... so dont worry peoples it wont flop but it wont be a major success either so TES single player will be safe enough.

No. SquarEnix has released two MMO Final Fantasy games and is still making Final Fantasy single player games.


Or they could go with their award winning and highly popular franchise...


No more "odd" than your lack of knowledge. TESO has been in development since 2007, a year before Skyrim went into development.





Why not make a TES MMO and still continue developing TES single player games?

Did SWTOR kill Bioware? No. Just relax, this game sells and people play it 1-3 month, depends on the success maybe even longer. Elder Scroll dies when Bethesda dies IMHO.

Not really. At most, we needed a co-op mode for Skyrim.


Absolutely not. I'm unsure how do you get these impressions.


This has likely been their basic idea, that it was time to branch out into the online market with this IP before it's too late. If this is true, then they have failed to understand a number of things.

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Eno Hlaalu

The first one was alright but players have abandoned it. The second FF MMO was a commercial failure. So obviously, the future of single player TES games entirely depends on the market success of TESO. That being said, I'm glad that TESO will plummet making the single player franchise survive, even though only in a streamlined modern form i.e. Skyrim.