Layout of perk trees : V - Skyrim

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:05 am

Right... but have you ever seen an attractive Used Car Salesman?

Lol

. I think its more a personality thing than actual looks.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:39 pm

In Oblivion didn't the helmet not count towards a full set?

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:55 pm

I'm so glad these perks make some of you miserable. Whine about having to wear a helmet? Why should the perk force you to wear gauntlets then? [censored], why should I have to wear the armor then? I should be able to get the perk as long as i'm only wearing 1 piece of the armor. They should cater to me! Whaaaaaaaaaa Beth! You should be appeasing me!

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:30 am

I'm so glad these perks make some of you miserable. Whine about having to wear a helmet? Why should the perk force you to wear gauntlets then? [censored], why should I have to wear the armor then? I should be able to get the perk as long as i'm only wearing 1 piece of the armor. They should cater to me! Whaaaaaaaaaa Beth! You should be appeasing me!

Troll plz. Different people have different opinions.

» Mon May 14, 2012 4:32 am

Added updated trees versions ( with skill requirements ) for Conjuration and Illusion.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:38 pm

I counted up all the perks and I came to 248. I have read that there are supposed to be 280 (UESP). That is 32 short of 280 if this is truly all of them. Where are the missing perks. Are there special perks given during the course of the game?

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:46 am

I'm so glad these perks make some of you miserable. Whine about having to wear a helmet? Why should the perk force you to wear gauntlets then? [censored], why should I have to wear the armor then? I should be able to get the perk as long as i'm only wearing 1 piece of the armor. They should cater to me! Whaaaaaaaaaa Beth! You should be appeasing me!

Don't be a chode; no one has to love everything, it's not a big deal.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 pm

If the set up means you don't want to wear any light armor head gear. Then........don't get the perk.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:18 am

I'm so glad these perks make some of you miserable. Whine about having to wear a helmet? Why should the perk force you to wear gauntlets then? [censored], why should I have to wear the armor then? I should be able to get the perk as long as i'm only wearing 1 piece of the armor. They should cater to me! Whaaaaaaaaaa Beth! You should be appeasing me!

Why not? You can get the perk anyway, but having it only apply when wearing everything could be an annoyance considering that Light Armor is the only natural defensive option for those who don't like Heavy Armor. A lot of people who use light armor don't like being forced to wear a full suit: that's kind of the entire point of Light armor. With the merging of Cuirass and Greaves, there's not even a practical difference between wearing just the Body part and wearing the full suit. The "Custom Fit" makes sense with light armor, but the other Full-Suit dependent perks have no decent reason to be less effective in even lighter armors.

"OH NO! I'VE TAKEN OFF MY HELMET AND NOW I'M A KLUTZ!"
"Not wearing thick leather gauntlets is making me tired"
"I'd have been able to easily dodge that blow if I was lugging around thirty extra pounds of glass on my body!"

» Mon May 14, 2012 12:16 am

I know this is a little off-topic, but does anyone have an updated list of race skill bonuses? (Khajiit in particular)

I don't want to go trawling through forums in case I spoil myself silly :shakehead:

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Consider also that with the removal of medium armor, that means there is a very very small area for clothing items to fit into. IE all this trepidation over but but I don't want to wear head gear might be far less of an issue than is being made out.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:53 pm

Sure this has been answered, but do we have to buy all ranks of a multi-ranked perk to continue through the tree?

Thanks for the updates

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:38 am

Sure this has been answered, but do we have to buy all ranks of a multi-ranked perk to continue through the tree?

Thanks for the updates

I am about 99 percent sure you do NOT need to buy all ranks to advance. I bet you just need 1 to continue up the chain.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:59 am

Ah ok, good times

» Mon May 14, 2012 10:41 am

Can someone add some arrows to the flow charts please. These are nearly useless.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Can someone add some arrows to the flow charts please. These are nearly useless.

they start at the bottom and go up. If you are still confused, then remember novice is lower on the chain than expert.

» Mon May 14, 2012 2:51 am

Can someone add some arrows to the flow charts please. These are nearly useless.

Start at the bottom and work your way up.

» Sun May 13, 2012 11:46 pm

OP, the redditer has updated with every tree now.

» Mon May 14, 2012 3:53 pm

By my count the total perks is exactly 250.

Alteration 14
Conjuration 16
Destruction 17
Enchanting 13
Illusion 13
Restoration 13
Magic - 86

Archery 16
Block 13
Heavy Armor 12
One-Handed 21
Smithing 10
Two-Handed 19
Combat - 91

Alchemy 15
Light Armor 10
Lockpicking 11
Pickpocket 12
Sneak 13
Speech 13
Stealth - 74

Total - 250

Update: Actually make that 251, missed 1 from Alchemy

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:35 am

By my count the total perks is exactly 250.

Alteration 14
Conjuration 16
Destruction 17
Enchanting 13
Illusion 13
Restoration 13
Magic - 86

Archery 16
Block 13
Heavy Armor 12
One-Handed 21
Smithing 10
Two-Handed 19
Combat - 91

Alchemy 14
Light Armor 10
Lockpicking 11
Pickpocket 12
Sneak 13
Speech 13
Stealth - 73

Total - 250

Where are the other 30?

» Mon May 14, 2012 11:05 am

Yes, we might have to start calling them the Lost 30, because that is a lot of perks we still don't know about.

Where are they?

» Mon May 14, 2012 7:26 am

I could see some being quest perks like in FO but I would be hesitant to think there were 30 though.

» Mon May 14, 2012 6:06 am

Lost thirty include werewolf or vampire perks?

» Mon May 14, 2012 5:40 am

They could have been cut during the balancing phase. 250 or 280 it is still a lot of perks.

» Mon May 14, 2012 1:32 am

Lost thirty include werewolf or vampire perks?

That's my guess. Quest perks. Daedra perks.