Mass Effect Thread #59

Post » Mon May 14, 2012 7:39 am

I am still thinking about the ending, and... well... the more I think about it, the less it hangs together. Spoilerrific ending stuff, read at your own risk.

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The catalyst is all "we do this to keep the non-organics from taking over", but... at this point in time of the various races history, other than the Geth, they appear to be in no danger of AIs taking over the world. And the Geth and Quarian conflict could have got resolved at some point, except the freaking reaper tech corrupted a bunch of Geth, thus making them more dangerous. The scene in the Geth collective tells you the Geth retreated as the Quarian's left their homeworld 300 years earlier. They were not inclined to fight. Legion gains individuality and free will, as does EDI. So machines are basically "humanizing" themselves and liable to make the same good and bad decisions as any organic thinking race.
Not only that, the reapers supposedly deliberately left technology for races to find, so they force the chaos to grow by uplifting civilizations before they might otherwise find anything and then come in and are all "we're just cleaning up. You, race/civilization over there-you are too stupid yet for us to bother with, carry on. When you get smarter, we'll be baaaack!"
I really hope the ending was not "all a dream" - was Shepard just being processed into the reapers and the cycle continues? I don't know. Guess I liked the game, am a bit gobsmacked and not at all sure how I feel about the ending and will just have to leave it at that.
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The fact that the catalyst is a synthetic makes its whole argument about its keeping synthetics and organics from causing galactic extinction for every form of life kind of hypocritical. You know, seeing as it does ALMOST the exact same thing every 50,000 years... :rolleyes:

I got my MP adept up to level 20 finally and promoted him to the SP campaign. Not really as satisfying as one would think. You only get 75 points as a war asset. Its going to take me forever to get him back up to 20 and demolishing everything.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:13 am

I think the ending can be best described as having been made while they were smoking crack and jotting down some ideas. Add in some other choice narcotics and bang, you have one hippy induced ending. No, hippy ending doesn't fit. Stoner ending is better.

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:22 am

I'm disappointed the elcors; the floaty, tentacled pink latex aliens; and the Citadel's shrimp didn't get a lot more face time. I love them and each of those races gets but one character in the game. Especially the pink latex aliens should have at least gotten more face-(well, body-)time, considering how intertwined they are with Prothean/Reaper lore.

The amount of Autodialoge in conversations is a huge problem, I didn't see anything wrong with ME1's system and ME2's was fine as well with Autodialoge added in during times that it made sense. ME3 90-95% of the conversations is autodialoge with maybe one or two choices within the whole sequence.

This does bother me. A lot of the time I feel like I'm watching a movie and not playing a game, even more so than I did with ME1 or ME2.

incredibly cheesy (The Cheesy word should give you a hint as to who I'm talking about).

You'll have to be a lot more specific. :tongue:

The Plot's ok although I'm not happy about some parts of it being changed inbetween ME2-ME3. It was originally suppose to be about Dark Energy, which got mentioned a lot in ME2.

They hand-wave the focus on dark energy/matter in ME2 away with it somehow having something to do with
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how the Crucible works.
Eh... Me? I'm not happy with how they keep redefining what the story is about throughout the series. Red herrings are lame. And deus ex endings are even lamer. It's a shame that you spend the whole game building up this giant army and then, from what I know, you don't even get to really experience the significance of this. I'm only about a third of the way through the game (going by my readiness score), so I'll see what I think of the ending when I get to it...

So far I'd rate it a 9.5/10 although that's basing it as a game overall and not as an RPG, basing it as an RPG, it gets a 3.5/10.

I'd give it about a 7 as a game. They remove your agency too much; the combat's clunky; the dialogue and characters are all over the place.

I'm enjoying ME3 for what it is, though.

Pretty sure the actress is either Aussie or Kiwi. She's certainly never sounded American or English to me at all...

Also, Leydenne is indeed correct. Yvonne Strahovski is indeed Aussie despite the name. She actually has a really strong Australian accent in my opinion, not even close to English.

That makes sense. I was wondering why she sometimes "slipped up" on her "English" accent. :tongue: My mind's still insisting she was American for ME2... She does really weird stuff with her voice. I don't know if it's on purpose but she sounds... strange. At one point I even thought she might be Welsh.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:36 am

^ Oof, not sure how you've done it but only one of those quotes by me are my words! :lol:

This is the exact problem I'm having at the moment. PC, btw. You didn't happen to find a solution, did you?

Rather than just letting it scan and scan and scan, if it did it for more than 30seconds I cancelled and tried again. Eventually worked. :)
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 4:00 pm

^ Oof, not sure how you've done it but only one of those quotes by me are my words! :lol:

:lmao: I need more coffee. Fixed.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:26 am

I've succesfully avoided most spoilers so far, only thing I know is that people are not too happy about the ending. I can't imagine what the problem is though. As long as they don't pull some crazy 'it was all a dream' stunt I don't know what could be so horrible about it. :tongue:

Congrats Shepard, you saved the galaxy... But guess what? You died on Eden Prime back in the first game. Everything else has just been your heroic fantasy dream. That's why you never seem to die and everyone is interested in having six with you. Also, I am your father. -Sovereign


And no, don't tell me. I just started.

I like the whole war asset thing so far, it's a cool game mechanic.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:22 am

Perhaps we should start adding our Origin/PSN/XBL names (And possibly Steam IDs too because Origin svcks for chatting) in the OP. So that we can actually get some people to play with MP?

I'll start. Origin/Steam ID: SimpsonFly
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:02 pm

Congrats Shepard, you saved the galaxy... But guess what? You died on Eden Prime back in the first game. Everything else has just been your heroic fantasy dream. That's why you never seem to die and everyone is interested in having six with you. Also, I am your father. -Sovereign

You know, that would be an awesome ending :P
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:47 am

your ending depends on your effective miltary strength [EMS]
your war assets are a part of that
if your readiness rating is 50%
then your EMS will be 1/2 of your war assets
and you need between 4000-5000 [EMS] to get the best endings
and in spite of what bioware said the only way you can raise that is by playing
multiplayer.. which is the only way to raise your readiness rating [which by the way decreases after 12hrs]

there is no way by playing single player i can get my war assests to 10,000
which is what i would need to get the best ending of EMS at 5000

right now i have almost 7000.. i have done everything
so my EMS will be 1/2 that or about 3500 and i do not get a good ending
since my readiness is at 50%
now if i raise my readiness by playing multiplayer then i get raise my EMS
i think i need to get it to about 75% to get 5000 EMS

why did they make it so complicated? i really do not want to play multiplayer.. if i do i will play COD

ps there is also a secret ending for those who play a second time
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:01 am

your ending depends on your effective miltary strength [EMS]
your war assets are a part of that
if your readiness rating is 50%
then your EMS will be 1/2 of your war assets
and you need between 4000-5000 [EMS] to get the best endings
and in spite of what bioware said the only way you can raise that is by playing
multiplayer.. which is the only way to raise your readiness rating [which by the way decreases after 12hrs]

there is no way by playing single player i can get my war assests to 10,000
which is what i would need to get the best ending of EMS at 5000

right now i have almost 7000.. i have done everything
so my EMS will be 1/2 that or about 3500 and i do not get a good ending
since my readiness is at 50%
now if i raise my readiness by playing multiplayer then i get raise my EMS
i think i need to get it to about 75% to get 5000 EMS

why did they make it so complicated? i really do not want to play multiplayer.. if i do i will play COD

ps there is also a secret ending for those who play a second time

I was really hoping this was a lie.

What an AWFUL idea. Not only are you forced to play something you don't want to play to get the best ending, you are forced to keep playing it.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:52 am

Perhaps we should start adding our Origin/PSN/XBL names (And possibly Steam IDs too because Origin svcks for chatting) in the OP. So that we can actually get some people to play with MP?

I'll start. Origin/Steam ID: SimpsonFly

My Origin name is EmiW and I'm still a fairly low level (6 I think?) but I can definitely see I'm getting better now. xD

You know, that would be an awesome ending :tongue:

If that had been the ending.....it would have been better (IMHO) than the actual one lol....
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:55 pm

My Origin name is EmiW and I'm still a fairly low level (6 I think?) but I can definitely see I'm getting better now. xD
I tried to add you a few hours ago. You're the one with the Morrigan avatar, yes?
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 1:29 am

If that had been the ending.....it would have been better (IMHO) than the actual one lol....
Good lord, I've got something to look forward to then. :P
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:47 am

I tried to add you a few hours ago. You're the one with the Morrigan avatar, yes?

Um....I don't think so? lol....

I won't be at home to check until tonight though....maybe it is a Morrigan av. For some reason I can't check my profile on the Origin site...
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:22 am

Congrats Shepard, you saved the galaxy... But guess what? You died on Eden Prime back in the first game. Everything else has just been your heroic fantasy dream. That's why you never seem to die and everyone is interested in having six with you. Also, I am your father. -Sovereign

Depending on how you interpret one part of the ending, you're almost correct... :nod: :shakehead:
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The whole thing has basically been one man telling one boy about Shephard. I get that it's supposed to be touching that people remember Shephard all these years later, but it's just a hop and a skip away from It was all a dream! :dry:
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 5:51 am

Judging by the lag, they didn't put any kind of nearby location requirement for the matchmaking. Not good when you live in New Zealand :P
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:46 am

I'm disappointed the elcors; the floaty, tentacled pink latex aliens; and the Citadel's shrimp didn't get a lot more face time.

That's Hanar, Elcor are the four legged ones :hehe:

As for the endings, they could've been better sure, but all this drama about them.... Well, the picture in this article sums up my feelings :rofl: http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-fans-petition-bioware-to-change-the-ending-223615.phtml
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 11:42 am

That's Hanar, Elcor are the four legged ones :hehe:

As for the endings, they could've been better sure, but all this drama about them.... Well, the picture in this article sums up my feelings :rofl: http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-fans-petition-bioware-to-change-the-ending-223615.phtml

I can sort of understand it. I am still not hating the ending but it left me feeling "meh" as well, or even a bit sad. I did not feel, as I did at the end of ME1 and ME2,
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a sense of accomplishment for the character, and that I had an actual "Victory". Yeah, I get that this was more philosophical, but in that regard, the ending ignored a lot of what they had built up in the prior stories and just contradicts itself even during the ending conversations. The high point of ME3 for me was the Rannoch sequences, from start to finish - tightly written, meaningful choice, an opportunity to settle something that you had been affected by/aware of, since early in ME1.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 9:47 am

As for the endings, they could've been better sure, but all this drama about them.... Well, the picture in this article sums up my feelings :rofl: http://www.destructoid.com/mass-effect-3-fans-petition-bioware-to-change-the-ending-223615.phtml

Oh man, that reference. Brilliant.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 3:12 pm

Perhaps we should start adding our Origin/PSN/XBL names (And possibly Steam IDs too because Origin svcks for chatting) in the OP. So that we can actually get some people to play with MP?

I'll start. Origin/Steam ID: SimpsonFly

I guess I'll put it out there too: My Xbox gamertag is in my sig. I'm not bragging, but I believe I'm pretty good. I'm rocking the Asari Vanguard (Stasis Bubble and because I haven't been fortunate enough to pull the Asari Adept yet.)
Not confident enough for Gold, good enough to play silver, and always up for the easy credits from bronze.
Note: Unfortunately, as of about an hour ago, I lost my current headset (woke up to one of my cats chewing through the cord). I'm going to try and get a new one asap - I hope this won't be too much of a problem.
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Edit: Just finished the Shadow Broker DLC and I'm exploring the stuff around the room. Just watched the vids. Going to say I laughed pretty hard at the Krogan Falcon Punch.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 8:49 am

My gamertag for xboxlive is born2beagator, add me if you want
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 10:35 am

I guess I'll put it out there too: My Xbox gamertag is in my sig. I'm not bragging, but I believe I'm pretty good. I'm rocking the Asari Vanguard (Stasis Bubble and because I haven't been fortunate enough to pull the Asari Adept yet.)
Not confident enough for Gold, good enough to play silver, and always up for the easy credits from bronze.
Note: Unfortunately, as of about an hour ago, I lost my current headset (woke up to one of my cats chewing through the cord). I'm going to try and get a new one asap - I hope this won't be too much of a problem.

I spent about 400 points on upgrades and I have drawn the asari adept and the drell adept.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:43 am

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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 12:43 am

I was really hoping this was a lie.

What an AWFUL idea. Not only are you forced to play something you don't want to play to get the best ending, you are forced to keep playing it.

I would argue, however, that the "perfect" ending isn't anything special. It just features a short extra 20 second clip before the credits roll. Otherwise, it is completely identical to the ending you would get with an EMS over 2800.

Earlier in the thread, I posted a link to a youtube video of the "perfect" ending so those who have already finished the game could see what they missed. After having seen that, I am convinced that this "perfect" ending stuff is just a gimmick to encourage people to play multiplayer. It really changes nothing, and if I spent hours grinding multiplayer just to get that ending, I would be very displeased at just how little it differs from the regular endings.
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 6:41 am

Huh, so you can edit one line in coalesed.bin and unlock Javik and all he has to say without the DLC. If i had paid for it i'd be angry now :lmao:
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