Im on my fourth character but have started to play another game ( FM ). Thats not becuse I dont like it/ became bored but I dont like to replay the game five times in a row. I need a pause from the harsch Mojave desert and relax as a manager

Bravo you're speech skill is high almighty.I completely agree.

a. "Kill molerats."
b. "okay, good enough, how do we kill the molerats?"
a. "With a stick!"
b. "ooookay."
b. *Hits molerat twice*
b. *Head explodes*
b. "..."

Anyway, "now" we're offtopic on the other hand so it's best to stop. :laugh:

It's a molerat fair enough if it was some molerat overloard god brute thing.

They have those in Fallout 2. Giant Mole rats. Why the Wiki/vault does not have that I don't know but they are there. People farm them.

I hate molerats, especially in Fallout 1. Those things are annoying at lower levels.

I think you got those messed up, you only got Good, Evil, or Neutral in FO3, but the quest (singular) was pretty much the same, in FNV you have Good NCR, Bad NCR, Neutral NCR, Good Legion (Hard to do), Bad Legion (Surprisingly easy), Neutral Legion, Bad House, Good House, Neutral House, Good Independant, Bad Independent, Neutral Independant, and the NCR/Legion/House/Independant all have different interactions and even different quests, the similarities are do to logic, what power-vying faction wouldnt want to garner support from minor factions?

As is proper in an RPG.

I just go for the eyes. It takes them out often enough. Works better with the giant ones.

exactly Lt Andronicus, new vegas had very little and a quickly diminishing replay factor for me because i'm into exploration and dynamic environments, lots of sneaking around, going in buildings, stalking or hiding from enemies, the feeling of suspense and danger etc....just cruising around an empty area without having to worry about anything almost 99% of the time for me is no fun at all. lets all hope the next obsidian fallout game is more balanced so both groups of people are happy campers, no reason why the game can't have tons of exploration and a dynamic environment as well a lot of dialogue.

Nah i think that Bethesda will take it from here. They got enough chuckles and laughs from it.

In all honesty karma is non existent in fonv you only really have the 4 playthroughs and minute exploration in the game the only difference karma would make is at max a sentence in the ending slides and tbh honest i don't remember the narrator saying anything about my karma .

Because he doesnt...Karma doesnt count for [censored] in FNV. Its completely useless.

I know that's my point mako was trying to argue that you could say do a mr.house bad karma then do a good karma playthrough which would be pointless tbh.

No, but your Karma would effect how good a job your faction do at keeping order.

Why is this thread not locked? it started by a troll to troll.

Actually ? yesssss thank god i always wanted my karma to affect how long an empire would last.

The replay value is low on New Vegas when compared to something like Fallout 3 although that doesn't make New Vegas a terrible game as I still have fun playing it over and over again but it does get old though.

Thats the thing fo3 never gets old i play fo3 more than i play fonv lately.

I would have to say the exact opposite, really. I loved both games but for me, it's easier to replay Vegas as there is so many variables in how you finish the game. You also see how the choices you made affects not only that particular faction or town, but how the decision ripples and affects the Mojave in logical or unexpected ways. Fallout 3 doesn't have that. Fallout 3 is a great game and imo does a better job than NV in other areas, but I find there's more replay value in NV.

Yes to the main quest but fallout 3's exploration is the best.

How is Fallout 3's replayability high? You can be proficient in all skills before level 30, so the role playing aspect is gone. All side quests are straightforward, and the main quest is very linear. What a diverse game! Not to say Fallout: New Vegas has tons of replayability, but definitely more than F3.

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There's a problem with the F3 VS F:NV 'replayability' (I'm pretty sure that's not a real word) argument that I have seen in every single one of the 479 threads about it. Everyone seems to base their arguments on either the main quest or the exploration. An F3 proponent will go on and on about exploring and killing and all that fun stuff while a F:NV fan will go on and on about the exciting prospects of playing the main quest four ways.

It's frequently a stupid argument because the debators aren't arguing about the same elements, so there isn't a real comparison. Rarely are the games regarded as a whole; just the aspects that 'win' the argument are trotted out and everything else is ignored.

Fallout 3 was an action game with RPG elements. The Main Quest was linear, inessential and tangential to the main attractions of the game, Character development and exploration.
Fallout NV was an RPG with action elements. The Main Quest was branching and hard-wired into the backbone of the game (mixed metaphor 101). Character development is well-implemented. Exploration is a secondary aspect of the experience.

Too long? Didn't read? Okay -- if you like exploring, F3 has more replayability. If you like questing, F:NV has more replayability. But neither is as bad in the opposing aspects as critics make it sound.

:foodndrink:

Absolutely 100% agree. Arguing about replayability is a stupid arguement. You can't tell a person who has never gotten bored with a game (Fallout 3 or New Vegas) that there is no replayability to it, just because you got tired of playing it. You also can't tell a person who got bored with a game after playing through one time that there is tons of replayability in the game.

Then why the hell are F3 fans trying to shove their opinions down our throats?