If it is your opinion, it is may or may not a fact.

If it is a fact, and not your opinion, it is still a fact.

You still seem to be missing the point.

(fact) I have grown bored with New Vegas. (fact) many others have grown bored with New Vegas, (fact) I would've been much happier with New Vegas with a few simple changes to the base game.

(opinion) New Vegas svcks and is the worst game ever made.
(opinion) Fallout 3 is the best game ever made.
(opinion) Oblivion is the worst game in history.. because it is not Morrowind.
(opinion) Morrowind svcks. because it is too old.

Understand now? Sorry about being an ass, but I figured a few examples were necessary. I do not actually believe any of these examples, please don't take it as so.

EDIT:this is how it was supposed to look. It appears that you are no longer allowed to say anything bad about Morrowind or Oblivion, even if it is only used as an example.

Okay, I understand that clearer, It's either I misread your post or you posted it in a... way that's hard to understand.

So... does it mean it's a fact about you having an opinion? Still not sure if I understand. :unsure2:

:banghead:

Hmmm. I don't usually spend my time frequenting a forum centered around something I have lukewarm feelings for.

Maybe he has the Nerd Rage perk.

Erm... Fact: People like Legion, it's a fact no?
Fact: Some people have grown bored of NV.
Opinion: I think NV svcks.
Opinion: I think Legion is the best solution for the wastes.
Fact: Legion has better caravan protection than NCR has.
Fact: NV has far greater roleplaying mechanics when it comes to dialogue and quest resolution than F3 had.

Cleared up yet?

NEEEEEEEEERRRRHD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA3GH

Sorry, missed your last post when I was writing my reply, so it took me a while to realize what ye wanted. :shrug:


I wouldn't say he hates anything at all. He's just... quite efficient with interjecting himself into any New Vegas criticism topic.
People don't like this and that? West is going to be there, just count on it. With the same block of text as usual. What a passion :laugh:

Who knows? Maybe he wants the big J.E. Sawyer himself to answer him? :fallout:

He's like a Crusader in feudal Japan, there are a whole lot of heathens!

:D

"Many" is subjective. Some could make a valid argument that "Many" like FONV far more than FO3. But yet Hanlon, just a few posts back, stated that MOST people are bored of FONV. Anecdotal at best but apparently acceptable because it's not an opposing viewpoint.

P.S.

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It's got a basket a bell that rings and things to make it look good

Possibly, maybe even likely. In that case it may be more accurate to say that some people are bored with New Vegas. I don't quite buy into that most people are bored with it though. Browsing through the New Vegas forums every day since release has shown me that people still do like it and have not gotten bored, but a number of people such as myself have, and have returned to FO3.

I really don't wish for people to think that I hate New Vegas, even though I do agree with OP to a large degree. What I have felt the most with it, as I have stated in other threads was that I came away a bit disappointed in what could've/should've been a better game than what we were presented with. Perhaps if Obsidian had been given more time to develop the game things may have been different, but since it didn't work out that way, we will never know what might've been.

Look, what I'm hearing is that you guys want New Vegas to be The Elder Scrolls. You came to the game expected a similar experience similar to Fallout 3, which in turn had an experience to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Right there, you're setting yourself up to disappointment and dissatisfaction. Maybe it's similar to what I should've been expecting with Fallout 3, but I was expecting the big 3 next to the title that I would be getting a Fallout experience. Of course, I didn't enjoy Oblivion in the first place, for reasons that I probably shouldn't post for the sake of remaining on-topic.

OOOOhhh i smell a facts war.

Fact: NV has far greater roleplaying mechanics when it comes to dialogue and quest resolution than F3 had.

Cleared up yet?
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In you're opinion not fact.

...It is a fact... How is it "not" a fact?

Ok rpg mechanics what do you mean by that it's quite vague 2 quest resolution i take you mean the way a quest can be resolved? The only proof of this is the MQ but in terms SQ fo3 are probably better but plz clear up what you mean by you're statement.

1. What ever floats your boat.
2. I dont care.
3.They kinda represent a fraction of the fan base.

Yes, a fraction.

The way you're able to complete a quest.

FO3 had a Tenpenny Tower situation and Harold, other than that I don't see many quests where I get much of a choice.
For Wasteland Survival Guide I get to option to say no, do the quest, or do the quest more annoyingly with the optional objectives.
With that capture the slaves quest I have to use a mesmetron on 5 people and bring them back.
In Blood Ties I have like what? 2 outcomes?

A lot of quests in FONV had several outcomes and choices.
Not to say there weren't quests in Vegas that were linear, like telling an NCR dude at Mojave Outpost about Legion, that's pretty linear.
Still, FONV had more choices to do, and one thing that puts it in front of FO3 by a large marginal is: You can be a pacifist in NV if you choose to. That you cannot in FO3.

Power of the atom,replicated man,trouble on the home front,Those,gotta shoot them in the head. full of point lookout ,ending of project purity etc.Tbh if you had played what 800 hours like you said you have (so have i) you would remember they quest ohh yeah tranquility lane.And pacifist is very vague what not killing npc's or good npc's or anything.

AND a fraction counts for something.

But not a whole, and as such you cannot base an arguement off of that alone.

Yes of course but you can get a nice idea of how many people think its boring or etc.

Not really, a majority in a minor fraction could just be a minority in the majority combined with all the other fractions pieced together.